Zenstates (Fixing the problem where gen1 Ryzen won't boost in unRaid)


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I had quite some problems with my speed and Cinebench score of my Ryzen 1700.

 

The first step is to use the plugin "TipsAndTweaks" to change the "CPU Scaling Guvenor" to "On Demand". In my case it was set to "Power Save" as default. This moved my from about 550 to 1170 in CineBench. A noticeable change.

 

Looking at the at terminal with the following command, it was wasy to see that my Ryzen 1700 just wouldn't boost properly when using Cinebench:

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watch -n 1 grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo

To fix this

Download zenstates from https://github.com/r4m0n/ZenStates-Linux/blob/master/zenstates.py
Save the script in a share under the name zenstates.py (I chose /mnt/user/appdata)


Use NerdPack to install python (Needed for executing the python script)

 

I used the UserScripts plugin to set up this script. Running every time that my array starts.
I got the script from @david279 (He also made an Excel sheel to calculate the value to enter for difference zenstate entries https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1icKFa0COFFpIKmkXOXVUrTt7mnMqdYYLbtRiedat5zs/edit?usp=drivesdk)

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### The 1700x only seems to support P0/1/2
## P0 = 3.900GHz, 1.3500v
/mnt/user/appdata/zenstates.py -p 0 -f 9C -d 8 -v 1C #Maximum power

## P1 = 3.600GHz, 1.3000v
#/mnt/user/appdata/zenstates.py -p 1 -f 90 -d 8 -v 20

## P2 = 2.200GHz, 0.8000v

#/mnt/user/appdata/zenstates.py -p 2 -f 84 -d C -v 6A #BaseClock

I only apply for P0 as that is the only state I'm interested in. The rest is up to CPU to downclock itself


After all of these changes, CineBench score jumped from 550 to 1420. So I'd said everything worked out just fine :)

 

I hope this can help somebody else with the same or similar problems.

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3 hours ago, pappaq said:

I'll try this out. But could you provide some more information if you have disabled the C states in the BIOS and in unRAID itself? I've, because unRAID wasn't stable with them enabled.

 

cheers

I have C-states disabled in BIOS.

 

I've been thinking about expanding my "build log" by providing information on how my BIOS is set up. Maybe I should do that if that's not something that well documented in other posts on the forum.

 

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On 10/18/2018 at 12:21 PM, pappaq said:

Nice build! Mine looks nearly the same. But the system has an absurd amount of idle power consumption...with all HDDs spun down the system still draws 100W from the wall...that seems too much. I expected around 50-60 with my GTX970 in idle. Do you have data to compare?

If you look in the thread I have the following:

 

On 6/6/2018 at 8:31 PM, Squazz said:

Power readings

190w - Startup peak

100w - Watching movie (all drives but one spun down)

130w - Idle (Win10 Desktop open)

170w - Light use (Wathing Netflix on win10 VM)

350w - Gaming

 

But let's talk in private messages and not spam this thread ;)

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On 10/14/2018 at 10:58 AM, Squazz said:

I had quite some problems with my speed and Cinebench score of my Ryzen 1700.

 

The first step is to use the plugin "TipsAndTweaks" to change the "CPU Scaling Guvenor" to "On Demand". In my case it was set to "Power Save" as default. This moved my from about 550 to 1170 in CineBench. A noticeable change.

 

Looking at the at terminal with the following command, it was wasy to see that my Ryzen 1700 just wouldn't boost properly when using Cinebench:

To fix this

Download zenstates from https://github.com/r4m0n/ZenStates-Linux/blob/master/zenstates.py
Save the script in a share under the name zenstates.py (I chose /mnt/user/appdata)


Use NerdPack to install python (Needed for executing the python script)

 

I used the UserScripts plugin to set up this script. Running every time that my array starts.
I got the script from @david279

I only apply for P0 as that is the only state I'm interested in. The rest is up to CPU to downclock itself


After all of these changes, CineBench score jumped from 550 to 1420. So I'd said everything worked out just fine :)

 

I hope this can help somebody else with the same or similar problems.

Thanks for this, now I am boosting to 3.9 on my 1700 (not x).

I obviously want to boost to 3.7 not 3.9 so how do I go about changing the parameters to reflect this?

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I've been finally trying this out and everytime I try to launch the script I get a "Permission denied" back for every execution line.

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Script location: /tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/Ryzen_P-States/script
Note that closing this window will abort the execution of this script
/tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/Ryzen_P-States/script: line 4: /mnt/user/Pool/zenstates.py: Permission denied
/tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/Ryzen_P-States/script: line 7: /mnt/user/Pool/zenstates.py: Permission denied
/tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/Ryzen_P-States/script: line 10: /mnt/user/Pool/zenstates.py: Permission denied

Does anyone know what I am doing wrong here?

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16 minutes ago, Squid said:

Do you have python installed?  And did you make zenstates.py executable?  ( chmod +x /mnt/user/Pool/zenstates.py )

I've made zenstates.py executable but now I get

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Script location: /tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/Zenstates/script
Note that closing this window will abort the execution of this script
/tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/Zenstates/script: /mnt/user/Pool/zenstates.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory

back! And zenstates.py is located there.

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6 minutes ago, pappaq said:

/usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory

Install CA Cfg Editor.  Load /mnt/user/Pool/zenstates.py  switch the Line endings from CRLF to LF (bottom left).  Or, re-edit the file using Notepad++ (not Notepad) and do the same thing under Edit, EOL Conversion

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On 11/4/2018 at 3:35 PM, Squid said:

Install CA Cfg Editor.  Load /mnt/user/Pool/zenstates.py  switch the Line endings from CRLF to LF (bottom left).  Or, re-edit the file using Notepad++ (not Notepad) and do the same thing under Edit, EOL Conversion

You sir, are a genius! Thank you so much! Works like a charm!

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I have also tried to use this script, when I load the Userscripts to run it gives me this error 

 

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Script location: /tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/Zenstates718990123/script
Note that closing this window will abort the execution of this script
usage: script [-h] [-l] [-p {0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7}] [--enable] [--disable] [-f FID]
[-d DID] [-v VID] [--c6-enable] [--c6-disable]
script: error: unrecognized arguments: 

Thank you for any help 

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hi guys, i am from germany, with the high energy costs 

i would be very glad to see an usefull guide to this....

tried it, but first stocked on the different python versions (seems like 3.6 worked for me, 2.7 not) 
...then i recalculated the tables for my ryzen 1600 and my experiences with my cpu ... 
yet, there´s no effect for now... could you write a short tutorial for the 1.gen ryzen users?

i familar with python, but I don't want to spend the time on every script... like most of us ... cause it is a function that should propertly run

 

thanks for the ingenious work that many have already done * but please make it a little more accessible (...for me ;)) 

 

Edit: cause I don't know where my mistake is....

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Works perfectly!

 

The only "problem" is: now every core of my Ryzen 1700 boosts up to 3.7GHz, isn't Turbo Boost supposed to only boost one core up top 3.7GHz or alternatively every core to 3.2GHz?

 

By the way, I'm using the first 6 cores for my gaming and daily vm (these are isolated in unraid) and the last two are available to everything else (unraid itself, docker and so on)... does it matter which cores I isolate for my vms? 

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On 9/28/2020 at 10:35 AM, Gr34 said:

Is this still a thing? Are there still boosting issues with Unraid 6.8.3?

Are you having issues?

 

I would assume boosting issues are still a thing but only on certain hardware (first gen zen)

It seems like there wouldn't be a point patching it now unless Zen3 is also effected as most people effected would have ether worked around by now or upgraded (not many new builds with first gen Ryzen now i wouldn't have thought)

I could be wrong though.

I have some sort of stability issue myself (on a 2990wx) so i'm looking at this now.

 

 

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