NewDisplayName Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) Hi, i had 2 8GB ram installed, 16 total. Now i ordered 2x 16GB to upgrade it to 32GB. If i install only one 16GB Server wont start (restart, restart, start no screen and after some time shutoff) If i install 2 16GB Server wont start (restart, restart, start no screen and after some time shutoff) If i install in slot a 8 GB and in slot b 16gb server will start normal and bios shows 8gb in a and 16gb in b. But unraid only shows 8gb, do i need to do anything to get it working inside unraid, or is it just incompatibity? I thought, if it shows in bios, it should work?! (my mb officially only support max 16gb in both slots, but ive read that sometimes more can also work) Do i need to reset anything in unraid to make a ram upgrade working? Edited November 16, 2018 by nuhll Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 What kind of system/motherboard is this? What kind of RAM? I recall some older Core 2 era HP servers I've dealt with that max out at 24GB even if you install more. Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) M/B: ASRock - H81 Pro BTC CPU: Intel® Core™ i3-4370 CPU @ 3.80GHz 2x Crucial CT204864BD160B 16GB Speicher (DDR3L, 1600 MT/s, PC3L-12800, Old RAM is: 2x PV316G160c9kbl The question is why bios shows both sticks, but unraid dont... (Memory sizetotal usable7.661 GB installed8 GB max. installable capacity 16 GB) Edited November 16, 2018 by nuhll Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Have you updated the BIOS to the latest version? I don't know the reason for the BIOS showing it. Possibly it's just reading the SPD chip on the DIMM but that the CPU doesn't actually support that density of RAM (because the memory controller is part of the CPU). Quote Link to comment
Squid Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 And the QVL on the motherboard shows a maximum 8GB stick being supported. Always check the QVL for compatibility Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) I know its not supported. Tryin doesnt cost anything. I just want to know if its normal that bios shows sticks correct, but they dont show in unraid... I always understanted that if bios shows everything, it should work. I updated bios via internal tool from them but it seems to not work (it downloads and restarts and then wants to install the same thing over and over again) Edited November 16, 2018 by nuhll Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 16, 2018 Author Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) In bios it shows Stick a: 8GB 1600 Stick b: 16GB 1600 with correct manufacturer. Total: 24gb. Edited November 16, 2018 by nuhll Quote Link to comment
JonathanM Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, nuhll said: If i install only one 16GB Server wont start (restart, restart, start no screen and after some time shutoff) That statement right there is the telling factor. Doesn't matter what the BIOS shows as installed, only the 8GB stick is available for use. Period. Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 12:45 AM, jonathanm said: That statement right there is the telling factor. Doesn't matter what the BIOS shows as installed, only the 8GB stick is available for use. Period. So i will get a new MB i guess. Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 16GB DDR3 are rather uncommon, except ECC registered DIMMs, and likely unsupported, H81 boards only support 2 x 8GB max. Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 I already know that. Still, other configurations can work. My only question was if its normal that bios shows its working, unraid not. Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, nuhll said: My only question was if its normal that bios shows its working, unraid not. It can't work in Unraid or any other OS since it's not supported by the board. Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 So boards can show ram, even its not working? Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 minute ago, nuhll said: So boards can show ram, even its not working? Yes, it's a bios bug Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) Just now, johnnie.black said: Yes, it's a bios bug Okay, very sad, maybe you can recommend me a board? It seems like i can get max 32gb overall... something like this https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/ASRock-B85M-DASH-OL-R2-0-Intel-B85-So-1150-Dual-Channel-DDR3-mATX-Retai_1190422.html Edited November 18, 2018 by nuhll Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 For that socket you need a board with 4 DIMM sockets, the one linked will work, with 4 x 8GB, not likely to work with that 16GB DIMM, do you have a p/n for it? Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) What is p/n? XD I already saw that yeah, i can sent my 16gb back, i just wanted to try. Do they only have 1x pcie 16x 2.0 or 3.0... wtf THat seems best i could find: https://geizhals.de/asrock-b85m-dash-ol-r2-0-90-mxgxu0-a0uayz-a1685104.html?hloc=de Edited November 18, 2018 by nuhll Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 part number or model number Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, johnnie.black said: part number or model number Of what? Mainboard? I dont know. I think the best i found is this: ASRock B85M DASH/OL R2.0 (90-MXGXU0-A0UAYZ) Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 No, the 16GB DIMM, was just curious. Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 AH. Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Did you try just using that DIMM on its won, does Unraid recognize 16GB? Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 Like i wrote, it wont start with only 1 stick or 2 new sticks. Only with 1 old and one new stick... Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, nuhll said: Like i wrote, Yeah, sorry, didn't read the entire thread, though not surprised the 16GB doesn't work. Quote Link to comment
NewDisplayName Posted November 18, 2018 Author Share Posted November 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, johnnie.black said: Yeah, sorry, didn't read the entire thread, though not surprised the 16GB doesn't work. Yeah. It was just a test. Some said it can work with other specifications, but i always thought like if it shows in bios, it should work in OS too. Quote Link to comment
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