Taddeusz Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I believe you need to create a bootable flash drive with those utilities. The command prompt within windows likely doesn't have the direct access to the hardware that sas2flash needs. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 ya i finally got Shell to work not like others found it to work.. had to follow 2 different forms to get it to work https://www.broadcom.com/products/storage/host-bus-adapters/sas-9210-8i#downloads but can you double check for me i did it correct? i installed 20.00.07.00 version 9210-8i_Package_P20_IR_IT_Firmware_BIOS_for_MSDOS_Windows https://docs.broadcom.com/docs/12350504 and i upgraded the bios and firmware from the article i read now there is a newer bios i think i kinda confused... under Bios for downloads.. its 7.27.x.x.x.x.x. yr 2016 but when i did the upgrade the firm and bios from the file above... the bios i guess its 7.39 i think it was from 2015 so i not sure do i upgrade the bios or how do i read the proper bios to see if it worked... if i did this correct i going to install it in the unraid as i been just fiddling with the Windows ill take a couple pics and upload from my phone to show you what i mean as i havent had chance to swap my hard drive in a different bay to see if it was the motherboard or hot swap or if tis the hard drive... just been busy Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Unless you plan on booting from the card the BIOS doesn't matter anyway. The important part is the latest IT firmware, which you have. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 ah ok nope just the unraid... didnt know you could boot from that... ok last question since things are good to go you say.. i havent done the Disk2 done that remove restart array stop put the drive back and run array again.. do i do that now let it construct again and then put this controller card in... or do i install the card now hook up the drives to it.. and then figure how to get it to match the drives Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, comet424 said: ah ok nope just the unraid... didnt know you could boot from that... ok last question since things are good to go you say.. i havent done the Disk2 done that remove restart array stop put the drive back and run array again.. do i do that now let it construct again and then put this controller card in... or do i install the card now hook up the drives to it.. and then figure how to get it to match the drives If it was me, since you're having issues with the original setup, I would boot with the drives connected to the new controller and let it rebuild. As long as you're using the same Unraid boot flash it shouldn't have any trouble with the drives being on a different controller. I've swapped hard drive controllers a number of times and never had to "match" the drives. Unraid doesn't identify drives by controllers but by the drives themselves. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 ok thank you ill do that then.. as i wasnt sure what to do.. so thats good it doesnt identify by controllers what i done was label each bay 1 2 3 4 5 and then read the serial number and match it to each Drive in un raid i had before raid on my one motherboard and when it burned out i replaced the motherboard with a different kind and i wasnt able to get my data back.. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 so far so good @Taddeusz i pulled the old cables out installed the card and hooked them up and ya array came back on great.. so i did the shut down array remove disk 2 then start then stop then add and now she reconstructing... now i guess i shouldnt had hot glued the sata cables to my hot swap bays as it broke the 1... and i cant order them from South africa... so now i have bypassed the hot swap.. cable directly going the hard drive.. so if she fails again its the hard drive itself... as i couldnt see the hotswap having issues its direct wire leads end to end... i cant tell how it explains it... as i figure it be udma error count 2... since it happened twice but who knows.. fingers crossed its not the hard drive 199 UDMA CRC error count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old age Always Quote Link to comment
JonathanM Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, comet424 said: i guess i shouldnt had hot glued the sata cables to my hot swap bays as it broke the 1... For future reference, a small heat gun set on low will soften hot melt glue so it lets go without damage. The melt point on it is actually fairly low unless you buy super specialized high temp stuff. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 oh i didnt know that i thought of heat gun but i figured heat gun would damage it before the glue would come off.. the glue sticks i buy just cheap ones i can get at walmart or canadian tire..... thank you.. wish i had asked before i tried pealing the hot glue off... thank you @jonathanm learn something new everyday.. so far the new lsi card working great... my 12TB are showing up as Sata 3.2 6TB is showing up as Sata 3.1 and the 2 2TB drives are showing up as Sata 3.0 but i guessing they will all operated roughly same speed Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, comet424 said: so far so good @Taddeusz i pulled the old cables out installed the card and hooked them up and ya array came back on great.. so i did the shut down array remove disk 2 then start then stop then add and now she reconstructing... now i guess i shouldnt had hot glued the sata cables to my hot swap bays as it broke the 1... and i cant order them from South africa... so now i have bypassed the hot swap.. cable directly going the hard drive.. so if she fails again its the hard drive itself... as i couldnt see the hotswap having issues its direct wire leads end to end... i cant tell how it explains it... as i figure it be udma error count 2... since it happened twice but who knows.. fingers crossed its not the hard drive 199 UDMA CRC error count 0x000a 200 200 000 Old age Always I've got a couple drives with UDMA CRC error counts from the backplane that seemingly messed up. They haven't gotten any higher since I did away with the backplane and direct connected them. I ended up getting a couple drive mounts that while they aren't front accessible have some really nice cooling on them. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 oh ok.. ya nothing perfect ... do you have a link i can see these drive mounts see what it looks like with the fan etc? Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, comet424 said: oh i didnt know that i thought of heat gun but i figured heat gun would damage it before the glue would come off.. the glue sticks i buy just cheap ones i can get at walmart or canadian tire..... thank you.. wish i had asked before i tried pealing the hot glue off... thank you @jonathanm learn something new everyday.. so far the new lsi card working great... my 12TB are showing up as Sata 3.2 6TB is showing up as Sata 3.1 and the 2 2TB drives are showing up as Sata 3.0 but i guessing they will all operated roughly same speed And if nothing else the careful application of heat from a soldering iron or even a cigarette lighter would also do the trick. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 oh ok thanks for the advice.. go figure eh... what do you guys do to secure your backplains or you never have too? and is there a hot swap bays that are better then another.. or do they all suck etc? Quote Link to comment
JonathanM Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, comet424 said: i thought of heat gun but i figured heat gun would damage it before the glue would come off.. The low temp normal sticks are totally liquid at around 120c. That's well below the damage point of anything critical in the computer. Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, comet424 said: oh ok.. ya nothing perfect ... do you have a link i can see these drive mounts see what it looks like with the fan etc? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132035 I got two of those. They're actually designed for specific Rosewill cases but They worked out fine with some modification on my case. I had to bend the little tabs out of the way that the 5-1/4in drives slid in on. Nothing too drastic. BTW, this is the case I got several years back: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156269 Wanted something with a full front of 5-1/4in bays. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 oh ok thanks Johnathnm ill remember that.. i never tried hot glue computer satas or anything in a computer till this crc error i got twice or 3 times unraid said.. so i tried everything... i was hoping the locking clips on the sata cables would have locked into my hot swap modules but not.. it be nice if hot swap modules allow it to lock in.. or maybe tehy do i just havent had any that do Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 oh ya so no hot swap in that.. but u gotta screw the hard drive in... and that style works well cuz it doesnt get loose.. i seen some modules that fit in computer cases too but thats an option for me too.. currently my server is my gaming case its this one https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129087 and this is the hot swap module https://www.buyanything.co.za/ch-adfhsm2 id get more but you cant get it in canada or usa.. only in South africa and they dont ship to canada Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, comet424 said: oh ok thanks Johnathnm ill remember that.. i never tried hot glue computer satas or anything in a computer till this crc error i got twice or 3 times unraid said.. so i tried everything... i was hoping the locking clips on the sata cables would have locked into my hot swap modules but not.. it be nice if hot swap modules allow it to lock in.. or maybe tehy do i just havent had any that do If it was designed for SATA 2 or 3 it should. Connector locking wasn't part of the original SATA spec. You have to be careful with backplanes and make sure they support the correct speed rating. There's still SATA 1 and 2 stuff floating around out there. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 well for the df-85 hot swap when you look at it its just a soldered wire straight from one end to the other.. so i guess that should support any sata speed.. but ya it cant lock you just push the sata on.. and u can easilly pull it off they dont lock on... but what hot swap modules are there that lock in.. is there a good brand.. is there a hot swap module like the 4 5 drives that are better then another brand Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, comet424 said: oh ya so no hot swap in that.. but u gotta screw the hard drive in... and that style works well cuz it doesnt get loose.. i seen some modules that fit in computer cases too but thats an option for me too.. The drives actually don't screw in. There are little pegs on the trays that hold the drives and then the trays click in. Other than mounting the drive cage itself there are no screws. Quote Link to comment
JonathanM Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, comet424 said: i was hoping the locking clips on the sata cables would have locked into my hot swap modules but not Locking cables aren't compatible with some other SATA connections either. You must carefully match the cable type to the connector. Not all SATA is the same. https://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?h=p1&ID=10477&lang=en&p=613 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 oh ok ill have to check it out... your case looks like it has indivual doors in the front for opening a hard drive bay Quote Link to comment
Taddeusz Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 This is the drive cage I originally had that worked great until it didn't. Not really sure what happened. Maybe solder joints on the connectors failed? Don't really know. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132037 Quote Link to comment
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