chipmaster Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I'm looking to build a server with 5 storage drives, 1 parity drive, 1 cache drive. Do I get the 6 drive license or 12 drive? I don't want to buy the wrong registration license for my server. Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 The drives you listed are already 7 1 Quote Link to comment
chipmaster Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) According to the pro license you can have 28 data,2 parity,24 cache drives. That would be a total of 54 drives on an unlimited license which could only handle 30 drives. So are the 24 cache drives not considered part of the storage array? Edited June 25, 2019 by chipmaster Quote Link to comment
testdasi Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, chipmaster said: According to the pro license you can have 28 data,2 parity,24 cache drives. That would be a total of 54 drives on an unlimited license which could only handle 30 drives. So are the 24 cache drives not considered part of the storage array? It has nothing to do with "considered". Cache is not part of the array. The key difference is the cache pool uses btrfs RAID (if more than 1 device) while the array is "Unraid", which is literally not RAID. I believe the "only" 30 drives limit is to prevent people from going Linus-style overboard. If you need more than 30 drives, you are better off with an enterprise-grade product i.e. not Unraid. Quote Link to comment
chipmaster Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 Does that mean I can go with the basic license since cache drives don't factor into the storage array? Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Please the information on this under "Registration Key Info" topic near the bottom of this page: https://unraid.net/pricing EDIT: I should add one thing here 'Attached' means installed and connected devices. (If the device has power and a SATA connection, it is an attached device! ) I understand that you can plugin a USB device after the system is running and that would not count as an attached device. Edited June 25, 2019 by Frank1940 Quote Link to comment
itimpi Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, chipmaster said: Does that mean I can go with the basic license since cache drives don't factor into the storage array? ALL drives connected to the PC count regardless of whether Unraid is using them or not. Quote Link to comment
chipmaster Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 I also just found out that if using an optical drive it counts as storage. So I have to get a 12 drive license for my setup. Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 7 hours ago, chipmaster said: I also just found out that if using an optical drive it counts as storage Optical drives don't count. Quote Link to comment
chipmaster Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 According to this post optical drives do count against your attached devices storage. I don't see how an optical drive can be considered a storage device Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, chipmaster said: According to this post optical drives do count against your attached devices storage. It's not correct, they don't count, they might have at some point in the past. Edited June 26, 2019 by johnnie.black Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 @chipmaster , If you are within one drive of being over the max for a Basic license, allow me to suggest going for the Plus license. If you are like most of us, you will be buying it soon in any case. 😏 So save the $9.00US upgrading fee. Quote Link to comment
chipmaster Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) I'm just trying to figure out if I should go 5 Data,1 parity,1 cache or 5 data,1 parity,no cache or 4 data,1 parity,1 cache. I see a lot of reports saying a cache drive is a good idea & some saying not necessary. The chassis I'm using is the Norco RPC-2106. It has 6 hotswap bays & 2 5.25 bays. Just trying to figure out if I want more storage or adding a cache drive. Edited June 26, 2019 by chipmaster Quote Link to comment
chipmaster Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Frank1940 said: @chipmaster , If you are within one drive of being over the max for a Basic license, allow me to suggest going for the Plus license. If you are like most of us, you will be buying it soon in any case. 😏 So save the $9.00US upgrading fee. I'll be building a second server with 11 data drives,1 parity,no cache drive. This server would be primarily storage & running plex. So a plus license makes sense to get. The first one I'm building is more for ripping & encoding blurays & also running docker containers. Edited June 26, 2019 by chipmaster Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 18 hours ago, chipmaster said: I'm just trying to figure out if I should go 5 Data,1 parity,1 cache or 5 data,1 parity,no cache or 4 data,1 parity,1 cache. I see a lot of reports saying a cache drive is a good idea & some saying not necessary. A drive not in the parity array is a very good idea, and cache is the simplest way to accomplish that. Whether as cache or not, that non-array drive counts against license. You need a drive out of the parity array to install dockers or VMs, or they will have their performance impacted due to the slower parity writes, and they will keep parity and array disk(s) spinning. Quote Link to comment
ijuarez Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 5:52 PM, chipmaster said: I also just found out that if using an optical drive it counts as storage. So I have to get a 12 drive license for my setup. just go pro, one time fee and updates are free! 1 Quote Link to comment
testdasi Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 19 hours ago, chipmaster said: I'll be building a second server with 11 data drives,1 parity,no cache drive. This server would be primarily storage & running plex. So a plus license makes sense to get. The first one I'm building is more for ripping & encoding blurays & also running docker containers. Cost saving proposal for you: merge both of them into 1 server. I don't see why Plex + ripping + storage can't be done on the same server. In fact, rip -> store -> stream is not an unusual workflow for an Unraid server. Quote Link to comment
chipmaster Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 The chassis I’m using is a 6 bay hotswap & 2 5.25 drivebay enclosure. It’s going to be a 6 core 12 thread AMD Ryzen cpu. The second server is going to be a 12 drive chassis. I haven’t found a 12 bay chassis with a 5.25 drive bay Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Look here for case: https://www.amazon.com/Antec-Nine-Hundred-Black-Computer/dp/B000I5JHB0/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2HON1H5CZS594&keywords=antec+pc+case&qid=1561653113&s=gateway&sprefix=antek+pc+case%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-5 and here for 3.5 drive housings: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DGZ42SM/?coliid=IIIILGP3NJ25Z&colid=1J9BI1VGOHR7C&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it These are not really recommendations but, perhaps, will give another direction to look. Quote Link to comment
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