March 3, 20206 yr So im building my first unRAID, data storage mainly, video streaming without transcoding, maybe usenet and BitTorrent, most defnetly a docker with pihole, 5G Ethernet card with 10G upgrade later, using my old Z370 mobo and Define R5 case. my old CPU is 9900K, its expensive and I rather sell it [My main rig will be TR3] So I need to choose a CPU for unRAID, 9400 without TSX and vPRO or paying more for 9600KF with TSX and vPRO? For example I know that in PS3 emulator the TSX speeds it up and helps, as far as vPRO i have no idea what it is How much RAM I should buy? 16GB or 32GB? Im getting 750W PSU, gigabyte Gold, should it be enough for 12, 12Tb Helium HDDs [well ill start with 5 and some 10TB] Thanks in advance
March 3, 20206 yr Author 27 minutes ago, Alphahelix said: vPRO is among other things related to hyper threading according to this: Wikipeia This is confusing, I assumed the V in vPro stand for virtualization. Based on Intels websites, both 9600KF and 9400 dont have Hyper-threading, but 9600KF has vPRO and has TSX, while 9400 doesn't. In any case, I wonder what features unRAID uses, does it uses any Intel virtualization accelerating instructions? Does it uses TSX? I need to choose either to buy 9400 or pay more for 9600KF and use it with old single slot Nvidia 240 video card for signal and take the last free PCIe slot.
March 3, 20206 yr check out this for the 9400 https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134898/intel-core-i5-9400-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html It says it supports VT-x and VT-d so it will do virtualization. Just make sure your motherboard supports it. My CPU doesn't have TSX, or rather is was disabled due to a bug, and it handles everything just fine. EDIT: It looks like that motherboard will play nicely with passthrough. Edited March 3, 20206 yr by civic95man
March 3, 20206 yr Author 5 minutes ago, civic95man said: check out this for the 9400 https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/134898/intel-core-i5-9400-processor-9m-cache-up-to-4-10-ghz.html It says it supports VT-x and VT-d so it will do virtualization. Just make sure your motherboard supports it. My CPU doesn't have TSX, or rather is was disabled due to a bug, and it handles everything just fine. EDIT: It looks like that motherboard will play nicely with passthrough. How much RAM do you recommend 16 or 32? So this enough for unRAID [based on my needs described in the first post]? Intel 9400 CPU + Gigabyte z370 Gamer 7 mobo [its what I have] + NO external GPU, just Intel iGPU + H220 IT patched SAS card + Aquantila 5Gb Ethernet + Gigabyte 750W Gold PSU + used 2Tb Samsung 850 EVO as cache, + 512GB M.2 NVMe as extra fast cache [Its unsused anyway so i rather use in the unRAID]
March 3, 20206 yr 1 hour ago, Hexenhammer said: Im getting 750W PSU, gigabyte Gold, should it be enough for 12, 12Tb Helium HDDs [well ill start with 5 and some 10TB] Just be sure that the PS you decide on has a single +12V buss. 7 minutes ago, Hexenhammer said: How much RAM do you recommend 16 or 32? Unraid (wiht several plugins and Dockers) will run quite happily with 8GB of RAM (A barebones system will run with 4GB). Anything beyond that is dictated by requirements of the VM's that you might want to use. Most Dockers have low RAM requirements but it does not hurt to check the support threads for any that you are considering to see if they are an exception. In any case, if you have more than two memory slots, try to get the initial memory in two sticks. That allows for expansion in the future.
March 4, 20206 yr Intel vPro is not processor instructions but a technology used by enterprises for system management. Among other things it provides an interface for out-of-band remote access. Unless you need that sort of remote management it’s not something you should need to be concerned with. It’s only supported with specific combinations of CPU’s and motherboard chipsets.
March 4, 20206 yr 19 hours ago, Hexenhammer said: How much RAM do you recommend 16 or 32? It really depends on what you plan on doing with your unraid system. I know you just plan on using it for a NAS, but plans change. I started out with a NUC and 16GB RAM figuring I would only use it for a NAS as well. Now I have a server grade board, XEON CPU, 128GB RAM and run 3 VMs, several dockers, and a Plex server. So all I can say is plans change lol. If the price difference isn't that bad then I would personally go with more RAM. Another thought, if you ever plan on running VMs then consider that now when purchasing RAM. You don't say how many drives you plan to run so be sure to account for them when settling on a power supply. You're not running a discrete video card so you will most likely be safe. 16 hours ago, Taddeusz said: Intel vPro is not processor instructions That was my take away from reading up on vPro. It seemed more like marketing hype to up-sell people. Edited March 4, 20206 yr by civic95man
March 4, 20206 yr 1 minute ago, civic95man said: That was my take away from reading up on vPro. It seemed more like marketing hype to up-sell people. vPro isn’t really made for consumers. It’s made for larger businesses to help manage their equipment.
March 4, 20206 yr Just now, Taddeusz said: help manage their equipment Isn't that handled by the IPMI at the board level for server grade equipment?
March 4, 20206 yr Author 4 minutes ago, civic95man said: It really depends on what you plan on doing with your unraid system. I know you just plan on using it for a NAS, but plans change. I started out with a NUC and 16GB RAM figuring I would only use it for a NAS as well. Now I have a server grade board, XEON CPU, 128GB RAM and run 3 VMs, several dockers, and a Plex server. So all I can say is plans change lol. If the price difference isn't that bad then I would personally go with more RAM. Another thought, if you ever plan on running VMs then consider that now when purchasing RAM. You don't say how many drives you plan to run so be sure to account for them when settling on a power supply. You're not running a discrete video card so you will most likely be safe. That was my take away from reading up on vPro. It seemed more like marketing hype to up-sell people. NUC? How can you do unRAID on a NUC? used USB DAS for the hard drives? I need some help with CPU, I cant go with "expensive" one since I just got TR and Zenith II for my desktop, how about Intel 9100 or maximum 9350K?
March 4, 20206 yr Just now, civic95man said: Isn't that handled by the IPMI at the board level for server grade equipment? It depends on the hardware. I think vPro May be more geared to manage client hardware.
March 4, 20206 yr 10 minutes ago, Hexenhammer said: NUC? How can you do unRAID on a NUC? used USB DAS for the hard drives? yeah well I tried and failed miserably. I had several 4-bay USB enclosures back from my WHS days that I was going to use. I got a good deal on a 7th gen NUC and tried making a small bookcase style server. Unfortunately, I could only add 4 drives and there were reliablility questions so I just abandoned that idea and went all in. 15 minutes ago, Hexenhammer said: I need some help with CPU It really depends on what you plan to do with unraid. If you just was it to serve files then anything will do. You could even get the cheapest you can find and then upgrade it if your needs change. (I had to do that recently when I outgrew the available power of my CPU).
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