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[4.6] Lots of Problems since Upgrading to 4.6 from 4.3.3.

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Greetings,

 

I've been having a lot of problems since I upgraded to 4.6 from 4.3.3 about 2 months ago.  Coincidence?? Perhaps, but the fact there have been many problems since makes me suspicious.

 

I've posted a number of the issues here in the forum and I've researched the errors as best I can - without really getting to the bottom of the problem. After running a pretty much problem free server for a real long time with 4.3.3, my server is suddenly proving to be somewhat unreliable.

 

Most errors seem to stem from an "ata" error, but others are errors I haven't seen before.  I've tried everything that has been recommended - like replacing the SATA cables and the power cables. I have run smart test on all the drives - they all passed.  One problem said something about a "REISERFS error" http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=10088.msg96117#msg96117, but a file system check showed no corruption. A memory test showed NO errors.

 

Now here is the latest issue

 

Jan 17 14:35:53 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 14:35:53 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 14:35:53 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 14:35:53 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 14:35:59 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 14:36:03 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 14:36:03 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 14:36:04 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 14:36:04 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 14:36:04 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 14:36:04 Tower kernel: mdcmd (51): spindown 11
Jan 17 14:56:08 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 14:56:08 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 14:56:08 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 14:56:08 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 14:56:14 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 14:56:18 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 14:56:18 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 14:56:19 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 14:56:19 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 14:56:19 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 14:56:19 Tower kernel: mdcmd (52): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:04:56 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:04:56 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:04:56 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:04:56 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:05:02 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:05:06 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:05:06 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:05:07 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:05:07 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:05:07 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:05:07 Tower kernel: mdcmd (53): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:09:57 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:09:57 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:09:57 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:09:57 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:10:03 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:10:07 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:10:07 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:10:08 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:10:08 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:10:08 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:10:08 Tower kernel: mdcmd (54): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:15:33 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:15:33 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:15:33 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:15:33 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:15:39 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:15:43 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:15:43 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:15:44 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:15:44 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:15:44 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:15:44 Tower kernel: mdcmd (55): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:24:23 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:24:23 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:24:23 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:24:23 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:24:29 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:24:33 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:24:33 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:24:34 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:24:34 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:24:34 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:24:34 Tower kernel: mdcmd (56): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:30:30 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:30:30 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:30:30 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:30:30 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:30:36 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:30:40 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:30:40 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:30:41 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:30:41 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:30:41 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:30:41 Tower kernel: mdcmd (57): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:32:47 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:32:47 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:32:47 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:32:47 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:32:53 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:32:57 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:32:57 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:32:58 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:32:58 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:32:58 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:32:58 Tower kernel: mdcmd (58): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:45:54 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:45:54 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:45:54 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:45:54 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:46:00 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:46:04 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:46:04 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:46:05 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:46:05 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:46:05 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:46:05 Tower kernel: mdcmd (59): spindown 11
Jan 17 15:58:06 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 15:58:06 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 15:58:06 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 15:58:06 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:58:12 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 15:58:17 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 15:58:17 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 15:58:17 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 15:58:18 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 15:58:18 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 15:58:18 Tower kernel: mdcmd (60): spindown 11
Jan 17 16:08:31 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 16:08:31 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 16:08:31 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 16:08:31 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:08:37 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 16:08:41 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 16:08:41 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:08:42 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 16:08:42 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 16:08:42 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 16:08:42 Tower kernel: mdcmd (61): spindown 11
Jan 17 16:22:06 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 16:22:06 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 16:22:06 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 16:22:06 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:22:12 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 16:22:16 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 16:22:16 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:22:17 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 16:22:17 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 16:22:17 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 16:22:17 Tower kernel: mdcmd (62): spindown 11
Jan 17 16:22:50 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 16:22:50 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 16:22:50 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 16:22:50 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:22:56 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 16:23:00 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 16:23:00 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:23:01 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 16:23:01 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 16:23:01 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 16:23:01 Tower kernel: mdcmd (63): spindown 11
Jan 17 16:29:02 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 16:29:02 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 16:29:02 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 16:29:02 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:29:08 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 16:29:12 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 16:29:12 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:29:13 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 16:29:13 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 16:29:13 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 16:29:13 Tower kernel: mdcmd (64): spindown 11
Jan 17 16:56:50 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 16:56:50 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 16:56:50 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 16:56:50 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:56:56 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 16:57:00 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 16:57:00 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:57:01 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 16:57:01 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 16:57:01 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 16:57:01 Tower kernel: mdcmd (65): spindown 11
Jan 17 16:57:57 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 16:57:57 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 16:57:57 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 16:57:57 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:58:03 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 16:58:07 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 16:58:07 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:58:08 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 16:58:08 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 16:58:08 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 16:58:08 Tower kernel: mdcmd (66): spindown 11
Jan 17 16:58:09 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 16:58:09 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 16:58:09 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 16:58:09 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 16:58:14 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
Jan 17 16:58:14 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 16:58:14 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 16:58:19 Tower kernel: mdcmd (67): spindown 11
Jan 17 17:02:07 Tower kernel: ata9: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
Jan 17 17:02:07 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 17:02:07 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 17:02:07 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 17:02:07 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:02:13 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 17:02:17 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 17:02:17 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:02:18 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 17 17:02:18 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 17:02:18 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 17:02:18 Tower kernel: mdcmd (68): spindown 11
Jan 17 17:18:17 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 17:18:17 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 17:18:17 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 17:18:17 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:18:23 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 17:18:27 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 17:18:27 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:18:28 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 17 17:18:28 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 17:18:28 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 17:18:28 Tower kernel: mdcmd (69): spindown 11
Jan 17 17:27:01 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 17:27:01 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 17:27:01 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 17:27:01 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:27:07 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 17:27:11 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 17:27:11 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:27:12 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 17 17:27:12 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 17:27:12 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 17:27:12 Tower kernel: mdcmd (70): spindown 11
Jan 17 17:46:18 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 17:46:18 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 17:46:18 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 17:46:18 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:46:24 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 17:46:28 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 17:46:28 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:46:29 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 17 17:46:29 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 17:46:29 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 17:46:29 Tower kernel: mdcmd (71): spindown 11
Jan 17 17:55:32 Tower kernel: ata9: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x180000 action 0xe frozen
Jan 17 17:55:32 Tower kernel: ata9: hotplug_status 0x8
Jan 17 17:55:32 Tower kernel: ata9: SError: { 10B8B Dispar }
Jan 17 17:55:32 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:55:38 Tower kernel: ata9: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=-19)
Jan 17 17:55:42 Tower kernel: ata9: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Jan 17 17:55:42 Tower kernel: ata9: hard resetting link
Jan 17 17:55:43 Tower kernel: ata9: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 310)
Jan 17 17:55:43 Tower kernel: ata9.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jan 17 17:55:43 Tower kernel: ata9: EH complete
Jan 17 17:55:43 Tower kernel: mdcmd (72): spindown 11

 

This only seems to happen after the drive has spun down.  After I spin the drive up, the error goes away?? (The drives are all WD Greens - 750Gb(X4), 1Tb (x7) 2Tb (x4))

 

One major thing I have noticed is the drives causing problems are all attached to the same expansion card.  This gives me pause and I wonder if that could be the problem?? It is a Promise TX4 SATA pci card with 4 ports (I can't get a replacement here in NZ as I imported these from Tom). I have reseated the card and everything seemed fine for a couple of days - until now.

 

So my questions are this...

 

1 - Is it normal to have a drive continue to get a spin-down command like in the above log?

 

2 - Is there a test one can perform to verify the expansion cards function?

 

3 - Is there a "Best" of procedure to down-grade back to 4.3.3? How is this achieved?? (I'd like to verify the software as part of my problem solving).

 

4 - Any other comments?

 

Thx.

 

 

 

Wouldn't downgrading be the same as upgrading?  Just replace those few files and that should be all.... right?

 

Nate

The actual issue appears to be a SATA link connection problem. It appears unRAID issues the command to spindown and the drive fails to respond so the SATA connection is reset. It could be the port or the hard drive or the SATA cable or the power supply causing it.

 

Just replace bzimage and bzroot with the 4.3.3 versions and reboot to downgrade.

 

Peter

 

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The actual issue appears to be a SATA link connection problem. It appears unRAID issues the command to spindown and the drive fails to respond so the SATA connection is reset. It could be the port or the hard drive or the SATA cable or the power supply causing it.

 

Just replace bzimage and bzroot with the 4.3.3 versions and reboot to downgrade.

 

Peter

 

 

Trying to find which one it is seems to be the tough part. Weird thing is that it's disk11 this time, but it'll be disk14 next time. I've replaced the cables (both SATA and power) and the HDD's are of various ages - some recent others a little longer.  The card (expansion) seems to be the only thing they have in common (apart from the underlying O/S). I'll give the down-grade a try first, as a replacement card here in NZ is quite expensive.

 

I appreciate the help. Thx

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