@binhex Just wanted to say I added a bunch of edits to previous two related posts, some useful - anyway I seemingly could make gracefull shutdown(without shutdown.sh I mean) through adding the missing -d to deluge-web so blocks(I also added exec infront per good measure - an extra bash script process listed because of the 'if' clause, and gone when 'if' removed), and then I for some reason had to add -d to deluged, plus of-course then also '&' to not block, as if not doing that('-d &'),