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  1. I just completed the second preclear cycle and have Current_Pending_Sector = 2 and Raw_Read_Error_Rate=8, as per the explanation from RobJ above i think this should be ok right? I am planning to replace this drive as the Parity drive. Should I run one more cycle just to be on the safe side?

     

    The "Raw_Read_Error_Rate=8" is not a problem, because the raw value for that attribute is meaningless.  What's important is the VALUE for it, 200, which is perfect.

     

    What IS a problem is the "Current_Pending_Sector = 2".  As was stated above, that HAS to be zero.  If this SMART report occurred right after a Preclear then that is a bad sign.  Preclear it again, and if Current_Pending_Sector stays non-zero, I would not use that drive, it can't be trusted.

     

    Just completed the 3rd round of preclear, Current_Pending_Sector has become zero :-) Shall iI go ahead and use this drive?

     

    
    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       8
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   253   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       100
    10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       7
    194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   119   118   000    Old_age   Always       -       31
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    
    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged
    
    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]
    
    
    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
        1        0        0  Not_testing
        2        0        0  Not_testing
        3        0        0  Not_testing
        4        0        0  Not_testing
        5        0        0  Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
      After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
    

     

    This was the final output from preclear

     

    ================================================================== 1.15
    =                unRAID server Pre-Clear disk /dev/sdf
    =               cycle 1 of 1, partition start on sector 1
    = Disk Pre-Clear-Read completed                                 DONE
    = Step 1 of 10 - Copying zeros to first 2048k bytes             DONE
    = Step 2 of 10 - Copying zeros to remainder of disk to clear it DONE
    = Step 3 of 10 - Disk is now cleared from MBR onward.           DONE
    = Step 4 of 10 - Clearing MBR bytes for partition 2,3 & 4       DONE
    = Step 5 of 10 - Clearing MBR code area                         DONE
    = Step 6 of 10 - Setting MBR signature bytes                    DONE
    = Step 7 of 10 - Setting partition 1 to precleared state        DONE
    = Step 8 of 10 - Notifying kernel we changed the partitioning   DONE
    = Step 9 of 10 - Creating the /dev/disk/by* entries             DONE
    = Step 10 of 10 - Verifying if the MBR is cleared.              DONE
    = Disk Post-Clear-Read completed                                DONE
    Disk Temperature: 31C, Elapsed Time:  32:43:31
    ========================================================================1.15
    == WDCWD30EFRX-68EUZN0   
    == Disk /dev/sdf has been successfully precleared
    == with a starting sector of 1
    ============================================================================
    ** Changed attributes in files: /tmp/smart_start_sdf  /tmp/smart_finish_sdf
                    ATTRIBUTE   NEW_VAL OLD_VAL FAILURE_THRESHOLD STATUS      RAW_VALUE
          Temperature_Celsius =   119     120            0        ok          31
    No SMART attributes are FAILING_NOW
    
    2 sectors were pending re-allocation before the start of the preclear.
    2 sectors were pending re-allocation after pre-read in cycle 1 of 1.
    0 sectors were pending re-allocation after zero of disk in cycle 1 of 1.
    0 sectors are pending re-allocation at the end of the preclear,
        a change of -2 in the number of sectors pending re-allocation.
    0 sectors had been re-allocated before the start of the preclear.
    0 sectors are re-allocated at the end of the preclear,
        the number of sectors re-allocated did not change.
    
    

  2. I just completed the second preclear cycle and have Current_Pending_Sector = 2 and Raw_Read_Error_Rate=8, as per the explanation from RobJ above i think this should be ok right? I am planning to replace this drive as the Parity drive. Should I run one more cycle just to be on the safe side?

    Disk: /dev/sdf
    smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [i686-linux-3.9.11p-unRAID] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Model Family:     Western Digital Red (AF)
    Device Model:     WDC WD30EFRX-68EUZN0
    LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 6b002b183
    Firmware Version: 82.00A82
    User Capacity:    3,000,592,982,016 bytes [3.00 TB]
    Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
    Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
    Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
    ATA Version is:   ACS-2 (minor revision not indicated)
    SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
    Local Time is:    Tue Apr 28 08:28:42 2015 IST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
    
    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status:  (0x00)	Offline data collection activity
    				was never started.
    				Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
    Self-test execution status:      (   0)	The previous self-test routine completed
    				without error or no self-test has ever 
    				been run.
    Total time to complete Offline 
    data collection: 		(41760) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: 			 (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    				Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
    				Suspend Offline collection upon new
    				command.
    				Offline surface scan supported.
    				Self-test supported.
    				Conveyance Self-test supported.
    				Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
    				power-saving mode.
    				Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
    				General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine 
    recommended polling time: 	 (   2) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: 	 ( 418) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: 	 (   5) minutes.
    SCT capabilities: 	       (0x703d)	SCT Status supported.
    				SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
    				SCT Feature Control supported.
    				SCT Data Table supported.
    
    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       8
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   253   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       66
    10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       4
    194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   120   119   000    Old_age   Always       -       30
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    
    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged
    
    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]
    
    
    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
        1        0        0  Not_testing
        2        0        0  Not_testing
        3        0        0  Not_testing
        4        0        0  Not_testing
        5        0        0  Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
      After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
    
    
    
    

  3. Hi All, I am trying to add a 3TB WD Red Drive to my array and the first preclear run just got completed, can someone check and let me know if this is fine? also how many preclear cycle should I run, 20 cycles might take lot of time:-) what would be the minimum safe number of runs?

     

    I got this one line in the final summary, is this a issue? : 1 sector was pending re-allocation after pre-read in cycle 1 of 1.

     

    I started the preclear with this command : preclear_disk.sh -A -M 4 /dev/sdf

    Summary.txt

    preclear_finish_2015-04-26.txt

  4. Hi, I just added my 4th drive to the array and completed the 3rd round of preclear, can you please let me know if everything is fine with this disk? I am attaching the preclear finish report. Also having a one more issue, this disk is not showing in the device list and hence not able to add to the array....I had the trail version and recently purchased the plus revision...These are the few reference i see in syslog for the new HDD (SDD)

     

    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      WDC WD20EFRX-68E 80.0 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] 3907029168 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 TB/1.81 TiB) (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] 4096-byte physical blocks (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00 (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel:  sdd: sdd1 (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel:  sdc: sdc1 (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk (Drive related)
    Feb 18 08:35:47 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk (Drive related)

     

    [EDIT] Attaching the syslog

    preclear_finish_WD-WCC4M1568296_2014-02-18.txt

    syslog-2014-02-18.zip

  5. Thanks a lot RobJ, this is very informative, thank you for taking time to write such a detailed explanation. Meanwhile I took HDD out of the array and dropped it in my windows 7 PC and ran HD tune. Not sure if this is a good idea but as you predicated it showed bunch of bad sectors at the very beginning. It has around 0.6% of damaged blocks as per HD tune. Should I go ahead and RMA the drive or run zero pass preclear?.....

  6. Thanks for the reply RobJ, I am attaching the report again, can you please check and let me know if I have RMA the drive. Can you also please how you came this conculsion, I have been reading the the SMART report but still not able to understand it.

     

    root@Manitower:~# smartctl -a /dev/sdd
    smartctl 5.40 2010-10-16 r3189 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Device Model:     WDC WD20EFRX-68AX9N0
    Serial Number:    WD-WCC300664700
    Firmware Version: 80.00A80
    User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes
    Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
    ATA Version is:   9
    ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
    Local Time is:    Sun Jan 26 12:13:44 2014 IST
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
    
    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
                                            was never started.
                                            Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
    Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                            without error or no self-test has ever
                                            been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection:                 (27540) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                            Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                            Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                            command.
                                            Offline surface scan supported.
                                            Self-test supported.
                                            Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                            Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                            power-saving mode.
                                            Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                            General Purpose Logging supported.
    Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time:        ( 255) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time:        (   5) minutes.
    SCT capabilities:              (0x70bd) SCT Status supported.
                                            SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                                            SCT Feature Control supported.
                                            SCT Data Table supported.
    
    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
      1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   155   081   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       1164
      3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   253   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       5
      5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
      7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
      9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       4
    10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       5
    192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       3
    193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
    194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   119   118   000    Old_age   Always       -       28
    196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       81
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
    200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0008   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
    
    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged
    
    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]
    
    
    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
        1        0        0  Not_testing
        2        0        0  Not_testing
        3        0        0  Not_testing
        4        0        0  Not_testing
        5        0        0  Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
      After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

     

  7. Hi All, Having problem with my preclear please help. I already have 2 data drives and 1 parity in my unRaid Server. Just got the plus licensing today was started the preclear for my 4th drive. This is WD Red Nas drive. I got the following error when ran the first time

     

    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: irq_stat 0x40000008
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: cmd 60/08:00:40:c1:da/00:00:03:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel:          res 41/40:00:40:c1:da/00:00:03:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: error: { UNC }
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
    Jan 26 00:55:29 Manitower kernel: ata5: EH complete
    Jan 26 00:55:33 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
    Jan 26 00:55:33 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: irq_stat 0x40000008
    Jan 26 00:55:33 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
    Jan 26 00:55:33 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: cmd 60/08:00:40:c1:da/00:00:03:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in
    Jan 26 00:55:33 Manitower kernel:          res 41/40:00:40:c1:da/00:00:03:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>

     

    Then I replaced the cable and then connected to a different SATA port and ran the preclear. Again within 1% I started getting errors, the speed reduced to 15-25 Mbs

     

    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: irq_stat 0x40000008
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: cmd 60/40:00:c0:36:a4/00:00:03:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 32768 in
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel:          res 41/40:00:c0:36:a4/00:00:03:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: error: { UNC }
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] Unhandled sense code
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd]  Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd]  Sense Key : 0x3 [current] [descriptor]
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex):
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel:         72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00 
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel:         03 a4 36 c0 
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd]  ASC=0x11 ASCQ=0x4
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: sd 4:0:0:0: [sdd] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 03 a4 36 c0 00 00 40 00
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdd, sector 61093568
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636696
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636697
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636698
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636699
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636700
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636701
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636702
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd, logical block 7636703
    Jan 26 01:10:00 Manitower kernel: ata5: EH complete

     

    Can some please help me, I am a newbie in unRaid and really need some help. Last 3 drive's preclear went without any issues.

     

    This is the command I used

     

    preclear_disk.sh -A -M 4 /dev/sda

     

    I am attaching the SMART report and syslog, please help !!!!

    syslog.zip

    SMART_Report.txt

  8. hi thanks for a quick reply, I think I made the mistake of adding both the drives to the array but not copied anything yet. Will this be an issue? Currently both disk1 and disk2 are red balled and showing "Missing"...

     

    Let me explain what I did. Before preclearing the disks I add them to the array and started the array. So disk1 and disk 2 got assigned. Then i unassigned them which stopped the error stating "Too many missing drives". Now I have precleared one disk and waiting for the other one to be done so that I can assign them back to the array...

     

    How do i fix my mistake? since you suggested 3 pre clear, I will wait for them to complete and then assign the drives? is that the the correct way? Please let me know and thanks a lot.

     

    Also what is the impact on total time to preclear if I do both the disks at the same time? I have 8 GB memory and not many plugins, will i run into any memory issues?

  9. Hi, I just started with my first unRaid server and so far its been great. This forum has been extremely helpful and spent a lot of time here !!!

     

    My first preclear just got completed , its WD RED 2TB NAS drive. When i looked at the report it seems to be fine, can someone please check and let me know if its really fine? I have combined all three reports in a single file..

     

    Also have couple of questions,

     

    - How many preclear i should do ? 2 or 3?

    - Is it ok to run preclear again on the precleared disk? I mean i didn't use "c" function so by default preclear was done only once

     

    Thanks again for all your help....I really don't think i would have done anything without this forum...thanks to all...

    preclear_rpt.txt

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