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Newegg will start selling the internal version of the DM drive later this week for $210. that's the cheapest everyday price for an internal 4tb drive i have seen yet. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178338
there is no mention of warranty length yet.
This might be the start the of price drops for 4tb drive market.. I am assuming the other companies will have to lowwer prices to stay in the same ballpark.
I guess now it is just a waiting game..
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The sale is over.
I just got back into town last night and was about to go get more drives today. I just checked before i decided to drive out and there realized it ended yesterday. I'm glad i checked.
Oh well.
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The X9scm-f is a nice board. it is a true server board built for stability in a 24x7 datacenter environment.
The ipmi is a great feature. once you use it, you will wish you has it for all of your servers. the KVM over IP if offers is just nice.
Being able to get into the bios without a monitor and remote reboots are just the tip of its features.
The intel NIC are just better then any other brand out there..
ECC ram. yes, it is a little more expensive. but you know your data going through the ram is correct. no accidental corruption because of ram.
The E3 xeons are more bang for the buck CPUs next to the i5/17 series. this is because they do not have the built in video cards that you cant use.
Xeons are serious workhorses. there is a reason servers and high end workstations (and Mac Pro's) use them over I5/I7's.
it might be a tough chunk of change right now. but when you have had it on 24x4 for 5 years and it has not died. you might be glad you invested the little extra.
in the end, is about what fits in your budget.
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I would go with larger storage drives.
3x 3TB would yield the same storage space for about the same price.
Todays storage servers are all about density. most storage possible in the smallest space
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Ayone have any experience with this case....... Zalman MS-800
---> http://www.zalman.com/eng/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=747
Looks like a niec case with 5.25 bays top to bottom.
Kryspy
No, but the price is quite reasonable http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235039&Tpk=zalman%20MS800
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Yes. you can just make a small VMDK on your data store. youll have to name it UNRAID and follow the steps as if it was a usb.
this only works on the free version. if you ever upgrade, you'll have to use a FLASHDRIVE for a GUID.
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CPU is not compatible with that board.
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I am not sure what the pop-up says in english. but I was getting the similar errors when I had two macs going to the same share. It think my mac pro and my hack pro were both overwriting each others backup. I have not seen the error since i crated a share for each mac.
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My personal guess, this is the sale price we'll see for a few months. At two years the warranty is better than the one year average for externals, but we void that by opening the hotbox.
I keep dreaming on using them inside the shell, but it's a dream
I have two inside the shell in my norco 4224 right now at the far end by the expansion cards laying on their backs with he front vents up and top vents to the front.. i even have a fan right against the "normally top vent" trying to keep them cool inside and the temps are still high. i hit 54c on the parity drive while creating parity. I'll give them a few more days to a week and start gutting them.
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I really wish someone stocked these in the US:
The last time I got a quote, it was like $160 a unit after shipping for the 8bay. but you need to order 10..
I would consider buying some and putting the rest on ebay. I just dont have time right now. and when i have time, i don't have the money..
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I wont ever go back to cases full of individual drives again. Just messing around inside a case unscrewing drives fishing in wires can be a PITA. especially if you drop a screw and have to fish it out (we all have at least once). I am sure many of us have also accidentally bumped a sata or power connector (and not notice) on a drive we were not working on and put it all back together, put the server back and go to fire it up and a drive or 2 do not come back online.. time to pull it back out..
The biggest reason for me. is to just not have to move the PC. all of my towers are on shelves tightly squeezed together. and my rackmounts are all racked. after you start loading these puppies up with lots of drives, to unrack it for maintenance is a PITA. they are heavy to move and I have to un-wire the backs to get them out.
An often overlooked argument for cages.. I tend to used the same type of cage for all of my computers.
If i have to swap a drive from pc to the other.. just pull the tray and put it into the other PC..
As drive become larger an cheaper, i tend to upgrade the drives in my primary PC's/Servers and "bump" the older drives down to secondary boxes and possibly bump drives for those pcs down the line to even older boxes.
I just moved 40 drives between 2 norco 4224's yesterday. that took about 2-3 min.. instead of hours.. and yes this was an extreme example. but it is one of my reasons for hotswap..
If I only had 1 server and it was easily accessible, my entire reasoning would be moot.
when you have a sever room full of them, i don't have time to mess around.
I work on servers all day at work.. i don't want to come home and do "work".. I want to go relax, less time spent on a PC is king to me..
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Good luck with that,
I have found no 1155 m/b on the compatibility motherboard list.
thats why I asked a computer store if they could hook a 1155 up to there test bench.
I could not get it to boot usb past the bios.
I played with heaps of settings.
I'm not sure where you think there are no 1155 motherboards that work. I'm running 3x 1155 unraid systems. as are a lot of there people. You will most likely need to be on 5x for several of the 1155 features to work, like the NIC.
From searching trough the forums others have mentioned that they run variants of the P8H77
I haven't purchased the gear for my build yet, but I'm actually thinking of going with the ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M.
It's $5 more ($114 vs $109), but has 8 SATA ports (4x 6Gb and 4x 3Gb, with one shared with eSATA), and can run two 8x PCIe cards at full speed for potential future expansion.
I have been using an ASrock H77M-ITX with an i7 3770k for a preclearing station for my new drives for the last week or so. I have seen no issues other then it is ITX and to small for your needs.
it is a bit overkill for unraid. it is a spare workstation that was free for the task. not a full time unraid box.
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If you are asking for suggestions on what to upgrade to, you sort of need to tell us what you have now and what you're plans for the future are.
unRAID itself can run on almost anything. your limits are going to be resources for plugins and limitations for adding drives (both physical space and ports available).
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Good Quality Control..
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Good deal!
I hope it works out for you.
I am actually thinking about a 10 disk system the more I think about it. using 4TB drives should keep my backup needs more then satisfied for years.
Thanks for the update.
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What city is it in?
I could use a new backup server that I only need powered on about 24 hours a month..
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That's awesome
I'd love to see a picture of how bad the inside is if you have not packed it up..
I'm honestly surprised he is asking for it back.. I had a Mac pro get mangled in shipping. it would have cost like $50 to ship it back. the guy just said keep it and funded the money .. they knew they would never have made a dime on it after the shipping costs and just gave up.. it sounds like he deserves to pay the extra cash...
anyways.. now you have another $200 budget for your server..
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i hope you have all of this in writing. don't let this seller strong arm you.
It is an AIC chassis.. i just found a couple of AIC RMC5E's in our graveyard at work. it is the same Chassis as yours except the AIC RMC5E is the SATA version.
a few people did do mods on a similar AIC chassis (sata version) on the forums here.
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I actually have a similar situation..
My internet comes in at the worse part of my house, the dining room. I have a wi-fi 2 channel "N" AP broadcasting the internet only signal in the house.
In my server room (spare bedroom and separate from the home office). I have a wireless N bridge (plugged into my main switch) that's communicating with the internet only wi-fi to get my whole network online. I then have another 2 channel "N" AP that 3 of my htpc's. I have no issues with 1080p over N under normal situations. I also have a Wi-Fi "AB" (Gigabit wireless) AP dedicated for my "data channels".
In my office i have an "AB" (gigabit) bridge (just an AP in bridge mode) connecting to another swtich that my main gaming rig, my main work PC's, some of my thin terminals and another HTPC.
In the basement I also have another "AB" bridge that has a few secondary servers that are just for minor backups and my music studio.
One day I'll hard-wire all of this. Right now it is not an option and i had to do this quick and dirty.
for my laptops and other mobile devices. ill connect to the internet AP in teh dining room (that still gets me to my servers). if i need to push a lot of data via wi-fi with my laptop, i'll connect to the server rooms "N" (or plug it into an Ethernet jack).
the gigabit wireless can push a good amount of data though it. it defiantly limited in speed and cant touch gigabit wired. but I dont use it for massive data loads often. the big loads it sees are time machine backups and backing up my music and work I'm doing in the office.
I did try powerlines a few year back and they were slower then N for me. the new models might be better. i was also very limited where I could use them in my home. each area in the house runs back to the fuse box.
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You are looking at another $60-$100 in modding not counting time to get it up and running just ok.. If you got it though ebay. ebay will undo the sale. thats not even close. if it was a paypal deal. work with them next.
While its can be a good base for a mod project not at that price. that thing was a boat anchor at one point. Wrong part, and if he didn't mention it was water damaged, that's grounds for a refund. Even your bank might refund the transaction..
Did you get it from new jersey or new orleans? I saw a lot of servers like this after both Katrina and Sandy.. they spent a few days/weeks below water level.
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If I'm not mistaken. the ST4000DM000 is the 8 head 4 platter version.
the DX is the older XT version (5 platter)
I would guess your DX's pre-read at about 145MB/s and the DM's pre-read closer to 190MB/s at least at first.
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What is your preclear throughput on the 4TB drive at the start?
When I was testing the 3TB 7200 rpm Seagate in the proliant N54L, I was getting 195MB/s for at least 50% of the drive.
It was 145MB/s - 98MB/s at the tail
It took approximately 39 hours to preclear 1 pass (on an I7-3770k W/ 16GB ram)
I'm preclearing my second Seagate 4TB drive now ... the first one completed in 36:20:21 using an AMD Phenom 9950 Quad Core with 8GB of RAM.
CPU and memory aside, I am actually seeing better performance on a 4TB by using the Adaptec 1430SA PCI-E x4 SATAII port, as opposed to a (ASUS M3A78-T) motherbord SATAII port.
Is that the XT with 5 platters or the newer 4 platter drive?
I am on the sata2 port on my mobile ITX (Asrock) desktop rig.
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What is your preclear throughput on the 4TB drive at the start?
When I was testing the 3TB 7200 rpm Seagate in the proliant N54L, I was getting 195MB/s for at least 50% of the drive.
It was 145MB/s - 98MB/s at the tail
It took approximately 39 hours to preclear 1 pass (on an I7-3770k W/ 16GB ram)
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I'll confirm. to open this drive does destroy the case. I had one the 3TB versions fail on me a few weeks after I voided the warranty.
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that was a nice deal. i would have gotten a few had i seen it