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Hello all and thanks in advance for any advice. I'll start my story and try and keep it short.
I've been using Unraid for a long time, but only with basic functionality of a NAS. I'm on my 2nd system, but have always put old hardware to use except for hard drives. I currently have a retired gaming motherboard and processor that's a 2nd gen i5-2500k and asus motherboard. I don't have any onboard video and have been running headless for years.
Last night it crashed while streaming a video file from the server, and I couldn't get a response or ping it, power cycled it and it came up. I thought it was weird as it's been pretty solid, but then this am before I left for work it was down again. fast forward to this evening I've been down there working on it when I believe I have figured out that there's hardware failure and why. I just moved and put a server rack in the basement and there's a dryer vent above it. I suppose with the heat and humidity I have condensation inside the dryer vent, leaked out of the seam and into my unraid machine. It's the back of the PC, not where the drives reside.
I need to get some hardware ordered up pretty fast. I use it for NAS only but maybe would like to do some very small things in the future. I assume an up to date i3 would do the trick. I have 8 drives and 6 of them are in the array, 1 cache, 1 hot spare. all 8 sata ports are on the motherboard. I need a motherboard, cpu, memory, extra card for sata ports if the motherboard doesn't have 8 (more is always better), and I'm thinking I might get a new power supply for good measure. Any form factor mobo is ok as I have it in a mid tower fractal define case (with the vented top of course to allow for water intrusion).
I'm going to devise a way to defect any condensation away from my bench.
Also if I put all of my current drives in with the existing USB drive, is there anything I should do beforehand?
Would it be beneficial to replace my old mechanical cache drive with an NVME drive?
I'm not really worried about cost, but I don't want to just waste money. Looking to keep the power draw low. I was happy with a 2nd gen i5 so I'm sure I'll be really happy with whatever level of performance.
Thanks for any advice or help!
Luke
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On 11/18/2021 at 10:53 PM, Frank1940 said:
I would be a bit suspicious of this card. So many of these are made in China and use components of dubious quality. I believe there are just a couple of the chip sets (for the two port cards) that are fully compatible with Unraid.
I pulled it out. I'll keep it at 8 ports for now. If I want to ever add another I'll get one of the LSI controllers I suppose.
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I did not replace the power supply. the one I have is a quality unit with a 12v rail capable of 49A. so if I have 9 drives (8 now) and no GPU that gives me a ton of headroom.
I thought about replacing it just to have a modular power supply and neaten up the wiring.
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I replaced 4 cables and eliminated drive 9 as I was just using it as a second spot for preclearing. so far so good. I powered it up and down about 5 times and it booted every time.
I might run a parity check and set it to not write corrections just to stress test it a bit.
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tower-diagnostics-20211118-0611.zip
Hello,
I had all of my hardware in an old cooler master case and I couldn't find any of the drive bays for it, so I decided to treat myself to a Fractal Define 7 that newegg had on sale.
Long story short. I have 9 drives installed and after the install it only wants to boot up about half the time and my cpu load seems to be much higher than what it was before.
This thing was rock solid before, and the only thing that could be different is maybe some sata cables and maybe the way that I utilized the power supply connections.
I did add another drive in there to try and preclear it to see what kind of shape it was in, but I tried to unplug the connections from that particular drive and it still seems to only want to boot up about half the time.
I only use this for storage, no docker containers. It's a retired gaming machine with a P8P67 motherboard, i5-2500k cpu. The motherboard has 8 sata ports on it and I have another little 2 port sata controller on it for the 9th drive (that's the one that I unplugged). I also have no GPU in this machine to even see what is happening during the boot. I can find something to install, but I wanted to post a thread with the diagnostics to see if anyone had any ideas of what I might check.
I was thinking of just replacing a few of the SATA cables and checking to see if it's better, but I'm certainly up for suggestions. The sata cable theory might make sense because I disturbed all of them and may have even put in a couple of different ones to try and get the lengths closer to what I needed in the new case. The unassigned WD40EZRX is the disk that I tried unplugging. I see the error rate is really high on that disk as well and I suspected issues from that particular drive in the past.
Thanks in advance,
Luke
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Did the parity swap and that went perfectly, thanks.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll start that tomorrow.
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Hello, I have recently started getting some smart errors on some of my old 2TB drives and I picked up a couple of 12TB drives to replace them. They are over 10 years old.
Obviously I want to assign one new drive as the parity, Use the old parity 8TB drive and the other new 12TB drive to replace disks 3 and 4.
I have the new drives in and precleared.
I was thinking this order
1. Replace the parity drive and let it rebuild
2. Replace disk 3 with the other new drive
3. Preclear the old parity drive and replace disk 4 with it
Would there be a better way of doing things? I wasn't sure if the parity swap procedure was appropriate since I have all drives currently installed.
Thanks in advance for your help,
Luke
Disk 3 smart:
Disk 4 smart:
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hello, I recently got one of the 2TB seagate green drives on sale at best buy for a spare. I don't really understand all of the smart stats. I ran preclear twice and got these results:
1st run:
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 116 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 113282616
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 093 093 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 7
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 253 030 Pre-fail Always - 199895
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 30
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 7
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 071 071 045 Old_age Always - 29 (Lifetime Min/Max 25/29)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 7
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 029 040 000 Old_age Always - 29 (0 23 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 037 020 000 Old_age Always - 113282616
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 142880677036062
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 3866248928
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 3298977179
Run 2:
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 119 100 006 Pre-fail Always - 228055680
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 093 093 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 7
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 100 253 030 Pre-fail Always - 401582
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 64
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 7
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 073 071 045 Old_age Always - 27 (Lifetime Min/Max 25/29)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 5
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 7
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 027 040 000 Old_age Always - 27 (0 23 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 037 020 000 Old_age Always - 228055680
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 67512590925888
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 3438057546
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 1505844440
Is there anything here to worry about?? Thanks for your help as I'm sure there have been 1000 of these posts.
Unraid Crashed, will not boot - Water got in my server - Hardware recommendations
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well the good news is that I found another board/cpu laying around and have my server back in order now, but I definitely do want to upgrade from in if nothing else just for power consumption purposes. It's not an emergency any longer though so I will read up on some things and pull the trigger on something soon.
Not sure I'm wanting to make the plunge for server hardware just because my use case is pretty low.
I'll read up on options.
and I insulated the dryer vent pipe that caused the chaos.