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Two drives show up unformatted how to then do a rebuild?

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Ok heres my problem (running 4.6 - 16 drives plus parity) Last night I got a orange ball on one of my drives. Ok I think no big deal do the stop, take the disk out of the array start it up then stop and enable it and start the array again. When the array starts it does the rebuild on the disk [ we have been hot here 106 plus so the man cave is a bit warm] the rebuild gets slower and slower so I stop the rebuild ( did this several times) well during the last time the drive showed up unformatted. I thought well ok all the other disks are good so I checked the format box and guess it reformatted the disk. So it then started the rebuild and it of course did the time out on the rebuild. The server froze and the only way to shut it down was with the power button on the norco. When I powered it up I got another disk (2) the first was (7) and it shows up unformatted. So  now I can't rebuild disk 7 as I have the message that I have is that disk 7 that I reformatted is now unformatted as is disk 2.

 

So my question is how do I get disk 2 which I did not format to mount to the array so I can do a rebuild on 7.

 

I am not real tech with this set up so have a hard time just doing stuff from the main screen at times let alone trying  to do putty etc.

 

Just figured I would throw that in so kinda need Lime Tech for dummys answer. I can see all the drives but 2 and 7  which are unmounted due to the state they are in.

 

Any help would be great. I stayed up till 1:30 am this morning looking for answer.

 

thanks

 

Ok heres my problem (running 4.6 - 16 drives plus parity) Last night I got a orange ball on one of my drives.

Orange?  or "Red?"  (It makes a HUGE difference)

 

Red = disk-disabled since a "write" to it failed.

 

Orange = there are files on the cache drive for this user-share that have not yet been moved to the protected array.

 

Ok I think no big deal do the stop, take the disk out of the array start it up then stop and enable it and start the array again. When the array starts it does the rebuild on the disk [ we have been hot here 106 plus so the man cave is a bit warm] the rebuild gets slower and slower so I stop the rebuild ( did this several times) well during the last time the drive showed up unformatted. I thought well ok all the other disks are good so I checked the format box and guess it reformatted the disk.

So you elected to throw away the contents of the disk by re-formatting it.
So it then started the rebuild and it of course did the time out on the rebuild. The server froze and the only way to shut it down was with the power button on the norco. When I powered it up I got another disk (2) the first was (7) and it shows up unformatted. So  now I can't rebuild disk 7 as I have the message that I have is that disk 7 that I reformatted is now unformatted as is disk 2.

 

So my question is how do I get disk 2 which I did not format to mount to the array so I can do a rebuild on 7.

 

I am not real tech with this set up so have a hard time just doing stuff from the main screen at times let alone trying  to do putty etc.

 

Just figured I would throw that in so kinda need Lime Tech for dummys answer. I can see all the drives but 2 and 7  which are unmounted due to the state they are in.

 

Any help would be great. I stayed up till 1:30 am this morning looking for answer.

 

thanks

The answer is to wait for advice AFTER posting a syslog as indicated in the sticky at the top of this forum. 

 

You would have probably noticed one or more disks having errors, and then been able to work the issue with the least effort.  Instead, you may have lost the contents of the two drives.

 

First... unless you do not want the contents of a disk, never re-format it.  Basically, that erases it.

 

Next.  Attach a zipped syslog to your next post.  Also attach smart reports on the disabled drives.

 

Last, make sure the server is being cooled as best as you can.  If the outside air-temp is 106F, odds are the insides of the server are a fair bit hotter.

 

rebuilds do not get "slower" unless there is a reason.  (usually disk errors)  Yes, they get a bit slower on inner cylinders of a disk, but not that much slower that you would want to cancel a process and start again.

 

You may have to force unRAID to think disk 2 is good... but you cannot at this time until you KNOW it is good.  Since we have no way of knowing the actual problem, you are blind until you analyze the syslog.

(could be bad power supply, bad disk(s), bad RAM, bad cooling...)

 

Joe L.

 

 

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Well did not want to kill the data on the drive but figured that it would be rebuilt thus having the program. The drives are fine

have never had an error on them. They both show a orange ball. Here is the syslog.

thanks

figured i kinda screwed up on the format.

the configuration shows valid

syslog.zip

Well did not want to kill the data on the drive but figured that it would be rebuilt thus having the program.

No, formatting does it to the file-system, with parity kept in sync.  It erases the ability to re-construct, since you re-formatted the file system.
The drives are fine

have never had an error on them.

You'll know when you perform the smart reports on them.
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attached is the drive I reformatted drive 7 This is the error I saw-5 Reallocated Sector Count            FAIL      1        1        36        4090      N.A 

 

well I pulled drive 2 out and plugged it into a external bay on another computer and it will not power up guess it died.

 

any thoughts????  I could use get data back on ntfs to get data back on the drive i formatted.

 

life is not good

DriveInfo.txt

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well here's the latest, put the 2 drives back in and since one is dead and the other will not mount the configuration is now invalid. Will rma the dead drive but Joe let me know if the other is fixable.

thanks

well thought about the program get data back ntfs and don't it will work due to the type of format the drive is under in the server. ps the balls looked orange but the drive that's doa is now red. Fact it states it's missing.

Grab this tool:

http://www.ufsexplorer.com/rdr_reiser.php

 

Take a look at your drive, if you are able to see data and want to recover it, pay the $25 for the software.  Its solid software and should be easy enough for you to use.

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Ok got 2 replacement drives but now having a issue on trying to start the sever get the 2 or more disks are wrong Unraid 4.6. I have not formatted the drives just put in the server.

Any help would be great.

thanks

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Well i did get that software and am recovering the data, some readable some not. My question is do I run initconfig invalidate the parity then add the new disks(replace bad ones)? and if so will I loose any data on the old disks???

thanks

 

Well i did get that software and am recovering the data, some readable some not. My question is do I run initconfig invalidate the parity then add the new disks(replace bad ones)? and if so will I loose any data on the old disks???

thanks

Yes, you will likely lose the data on the old disks if they do not have valid mountable reiser file systems.

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