Carl_Bar

Got my new shiny UNRAID server built. Assigned the first HDD to the array, and have setup a share and am ready to start moving files to it, but i had to tell it to format the drive, (DUH), the doesn't seem to be any progress display on that in the GUI so how long before I've got the whole capacity available? If i end up with any other questions whilst doing this they'll likely end up here too.

Ok, plan to order the parts tomorrow, just dropping this here so if anyone has any final comments they want to make that they think i need they can do so before i order.

To be fair the idea of dual parity came from when i was going with more smaller disks, Single parity would probably be ok until i expand the drive count more. The really important stuff allready has various backups setup, (though my file system is such a mess because of how it's spread around that i may be missing somthing), for most of the data (thats in the inconvenient to reacquire category), it's drive failures more than accidental deletes or corruption that worries me on that. There i simply want to eliminate the more basic source of somthing going wrong.

Yes. Said 10Tb drive is actually full of stuf i want to put onto the NAS> hence the idea being setup the NAS without it first, copy the data from it to the new buy data drive/s in the NAS. Then wipe it and move it to the NAS where it will augment the capacity so that i can copy over everything else from my other drives. Total current in use space on my main system including things like windows that won't be getting moved and some duplicate files on different drives is 22TB). Current plan is 2x 16TB ironwolf drives for parity and either 1 or 2 more for data, (i'm aware 2 parity drives for 2 data drives is seriously overkill, but knowing my data hoarding habits i expect to expand and well some of it is fairly personally important stuff, plus well i tend to overkill things just to be safe in general). Reusing the 10TB as i described above would let me skip buying another 16TB right now. I have an additional 10TB drive i plan to leave in the system for anything i want to keep a locla copy of on the main system. Both 10TB are around 2 years old. In addition to the two 10TB i also have two 6TB, those i want to take out of use, they're around 5 years old at this point so i'm a little concerned about them. I also have a 1TB SSD which was, (and when i get round to doing a reinstall, will be again), my OS disk. Cheers for another tip, not planning on running VM's, and err no idea what a docker is. It's just going to eb networked storage. Thanks to pcpartpicker i found a better deal on 16TB drive models so the plan is to add the 10Tb as a second data drive after emptying it onto one of the new 16TB drives setup as a data drive. New parts list, after mathing around the Ryzen CPU choice still worked out the cheapest btw: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/CbHmrr

Thanks, and sorry for 20 questions. This is somthing i really want to get right the first time, especially given the relative expense. As for copying without a parity drive thanks for that. if i reuse the 10TB, (any comments on the ease and/or wisdom of doing what i suggested a few posts back), i'll do the parity setup after copying the contents of one of the 10TB's over but before wiping and putting it in the NAS.

One other thing, anyone got a software they'd recommend for handling the transfer of data from my existing system drives to the NAS once it's built. Windows copy paste is cool but there's no way to check nothing got corrupted in the move and it's not exactly ideal for very large amounts of data.

No idea on his forum name or if he even has one found that video via random google search. But cheers for the link, i don't think i found his videos, (thank you google algorithm for that snafu).

Ahh cheers, I actually got that about a small one from the following video: I did look up other guides e.t.c. but this seemed to be the most clear one i found, anything else in there that's wrong/not advisable i should be aware of? Also any links to the MB converters you mentioned, my google/amazon Fu is proving weak on this, getting a lot of different stuff thats not clearly marked. Found the flash drive in like 30 seconds so cheers for that.

Cheers again for the help. Whilst putting together an updated list of parts, (Thank you partpicker btw), a thought occurred to me. The system i want to move the data off currently has 5 drives in it, 2 will be staying, (my SSD and the first 10TB drive for OS and anything that doesn't play well with the NAS), and 2 will be decommissioned, (two 6TB's that are around 5 years old), but that will leave me with a 2 year old 10TB spare. I could throw that in the NAS and save on buying one drive right now, but i'd have to move it in after building the NAS and transferring the data off it to the NAS, how much of a pain is that going to be? Also any recommendations on a good Flashdrive to use for putting UNRAID on? From what i saw in the tutorials i looked up it needs some specific features, (and ideally wants to be short), and i don't trust any of my fairly old flash drives to BTW upto snuff so getting a brand new guaranteed working USB Flash drive to put it on would be the idela i think. But would still appreciate a heads up on known good examples.

Hmmm, i did a bit of looking on pcpartpicker, (thank you for the suggestion, forgot it had those kinds of filters on cases :)), and a bit of measuring and the Fractal 5 will fit nicely in the spot i have earmarked. I assume it's relatively stable as it's going to be stuck on top of a set of drawers, (no other place it can go alas, tiny room :(). That was why i'd gravitated to a relatively short case initially. Good catch on the PSU SATA power connectors. I'd never have thought of that. Not sure how useful the transcoding on Intel would be, (i don;t really understand how that works and was just planning to use it as a single share network drive mapped as a local), but i can use pcpartpicker after i finish typing to explore options and it may well be cheaper, that AMD MB is painfully expensive TBH.

To be fair i grabbed AMD on reflex, but at such low performance levels i doubt intel is really any noisier or more power hungry, really any build that will support 8+ HDD's and a pair of cache SSD's at a reasonable price point and similarly sized externally will do. Unfortunately the various prebuilt and hotswap capable cases all seem to max out around 6 drives total, (or the cache drives would have to take up the 7th and 8th slots), at least that i could find. Part of the point of posting this was just to get feedback on weather this is even a sensible way of getting a home NAS built. So don't be afraid to suggest somthing completely different if you think it would suit my needs more.

You cna see it with a MATX board installed here. 7:17 ish if the timestamp part of the link breaks. Haven't had much luck digging anything up on how it's configured in full 12 drive config but i assume 3 at each of the 3 non-PSU side ports and another theee rm the centre rails, (Not shown in that section of the video). Will definitely handle at least 9 with an MATX board which is 1 more than the board supports. If you do have any alternate board suggestions though feel free, it is a touch expensive honestly but getting small and lots of SATA ports seems to be tough.

Copying this to here from another forum a the advice of those there: Getting back to looking at a home NAS build and want a sanity check on the things i'm thinking of and a bit of advise on a couple of components. After doing more research since my last thread i'm strongly inclined to go with Unraid rather than free NAS as originally suggested. Will have a few questions below. OS: Unraid, (provisionally) Case: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/streacom-f12c-aluminium-htpc-chassis-silver-ca-054-sr.html Picked for a combination of it's relatively small size, comparability with ATX components and upto 12 HDD capacity. Isn't hot swapabble bays but that isn't a horrible compromise for everything else. CPU: 3400G the built in GPU means i don't have to worry about that during initial setup and the like and i'd assume even 3000 series quad core is more than powerful enough from what i've read. Motherboard: Asrock X570M Pro4. 8 sata ports and dual M.2. Seems to be the only small form factor board i could find that offers this many SATA ports, still not enough to support the full 12 drive capacity of the case, but is small enough i shouldn't have any issues using all the mounting points in the case that the board can support and can have onboard SSD cache drive. Memory: Could use some advice here. A bit of research suggests 16GB should be fine for storage use but i normally go with high performance memory from gskil, which obviously isn't needed here. Not sure what cheap brands are considered reliable. PSU: Other forum has said 500w should be good even if i max out the drives count later. Drives: Looking at Ironwolf Pro NAS 8TB for the data, (note the choice of pro NAS drives is more about limitations on high capacity drives at OCUK, cost per TB as a result of that, and nearly everything over 6TB is either a NAS drive or a possibly SMR drive, which UNRAID doesn't like), would like to go for a pair of bigger models for Parity but cost is an issue. Looking at 2 Samsung 250GB 970 EVO's for the Cache drives. Any comments, this is my first attempt at putting a component list together so i expect a fair amount of "no you should do this instead". One Unraid question, how much trouble do typical programs, (probably only my Steam Game library would be moved as it's the biggest single thing, (about half of all data usage though), on the system once including modding stuff mixed in with it), create when installed to an Unraid share? I seem to be finding conflicting info, probably because it varies across programs so much.