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I don't know what it's like in candada - I get the Seagate 18TB for 355.90 € - on the other hand, the 12TB Ironwolf NAS Pro costs 369.90 € ...... I think the Exos Enterpreis Hdds are great, have in contrast to the WD Pro, a better, lower failure probability, a higher standing and are even cheaper here in Germany. (I've been using several 8 TB HDDs for a few years and have never had any problems) I do not understand why in the forun we get so often to the WD NAS HDDs and you hardly read what from the Exos. Compare the Datashets... I wish you every success with the LSI SAS 9207-8i. Last year I bought a new SAS / SATA RAID controller PCI Express host bus adapter LSI 9211-8I, LSI SAS2008 chip, 8-port 6Gb / s (was not intended for an Unraid NAS). It came with stone old IR firmware / BIOS - I am currently trying to flash it to IT [x] mode with the new BIOS / firmware - mainly because it takes 3-4 minutes to boot. So far it has not worked ... Do you have SAS HDDs? And why a RAID controller card - is completely unnecessary in Unraid. Something like that would make more sense (and at least now also cheaper): https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B08F56WKW7/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_7?smid=A21CTMDLFXECIV&th=1 [Seagate Exos X18 Enterprise, 18 TB HDD, CMR 3.5 Zoll, Hyperscale SATA 6 Gb/s, 7.200 U/min, 512e, 4Kn FastFormat, geringe Latenz mit verbessertem Caching, Modellnr.: ST18000NM000J] [x] IR firmware versus IT firmware When the HBA is delivered, the IR firmware or an integrated RAID firmware is usually installed. This allows the use of the raid controller with its modes such as Raid0, Raid1, Raid5, Raid6, Raid10 or e.g. Raid50. The IT firmware (initiator target) works differently. It acts as a pure controller in passthrough mode. There is no extra raid layer. LSI refers to this firmware as follows: “IT firmware maximizes the connectivity and performance aspects of an HBA”. And that is exactly the reason why these cards are flashed in IT mode. MDADM, ZFS, or other types of software raid are intended to be used. The raid is controlled by the software of the operating system and not that of the card.

That's exactly how I would do it for you. In my case, the only reason I left out parity was because all was backed up. The reason for doing it without parity was simply the speed. I read somewhere that someone with parity copied about 10 TB onto the array and brewed about 17 hours for it. (I don't know if it's true - I didn't feel like trying it out) A few more thoughts about the USB stick Since the USB stick acts as a drive for the operating system, you should use a decent, high-quality stick here. We have had very good experiences with the Transcend JetFlash 780 - 32 GB (In Germany 21 Euro; Amazon) over the past few years. The smaller version with 16 GB capacity is actually sufficient, but the price difference is marginal and sticks with a higher capacity are designed for larger amounts of read and write cycles. Hence the recommendation to use the 32 GB variant. In addition, Unraid requires a USB stick with a GUID (i.e. a unique serial number) for licensing, which many cheap sticks do not have.

@JonathanM I absolutely agree. However, RAP2 asks for a possibility to get the data on the array - because he doesn't want to buy any new HDDs ... (with 65TB space with the current prices, it is not exactly cheap either, at least here in Germany). A few days ago I was faced with exactly the same situation (with 45 TB of data) and decided to buy 4x 18 TB HDDs. Not because the data is so important or because I need it for business - but I've spent a lot of time over the years to bring it all together. So if RAP2 wants to implement his approach he has to live with the risk.

Yes Easily move, copy and sync files to unRAID, within unRAID and from unRAID using Krusader You need two empty HDDs. You build them in as Arry Disks. (Formatting, etc.) You leave out parity and cache until all data is on the arry Procedure: 1. Attach the first data HDD to the server - unassigned device - (SAS / SATA) Copy everything to the array. Then install the data disk, add it to the array (will be formatted!) You now have 3 HDDs in the array. 2. Attach the second data HDD to the server - unassigned device - (SAS / SATA) Then install the data disk, add it to the array (will be formatted!) You repeat this until all of your data is on the array. When all HDDs are in the array at the end - install the parity disk and add it to the array as parity (this should then be your last former data HDD and the largest of your HDDs) Then install cache. Advantage: it is faster than over the network and you can gradually add your old disks to the array. Disadvantage: At the point where you have copied the data from the respective old disk to the arry and then install (and format) this HDD, the data is only on the arry - if something goes wrong, they are gone ...

Hallo, @mgutt zum Stromverbrauch... ich habe das Gigabyte W480M Vision W – also die Micro ATX -Version. (Gerade kürzlich mit unraid aufgestzt). Auf dem Board ist : eine Samsung 980 Pro 1TB Noctua NH-U9S Cpu Kühler 32 GB Ram (2x16 GB 3200er) Intel Core i7 11700K und es hängen momentan 2x Seagate Exos 18TB dran (Array). + 1x Seagate 8TB als unassigned Device Netzteil: Be-Quiet PC-Netzteil Straight Power 11 (450 W) Das ganze System braucht mit 4x 80 mm, 2x 120mm Lüfter von Be-Quiet und einem Hot Plug Wechselrahmen für 3 HDDs im Idel 49 W. Und da ist bis jetzt noch nichts optimiert, da das NAS nicht 24/7 laufen wird bin ich erst mal ganz zufrieden… @Evilernie Bei meinem Board geht das – allerdings „nur“ mit PCe 3.0 – sofern Du also Dein Netzwerk nicht mit 10GB/s oder mehr betreibst sollen 2 flotte NVME völlig ausreichen. Vor allem wenn man bedenkt dass wohl der „größte“ Flaschenhals bei der Datenübertragung die Single Thread Preformance des I3 10105 sein wird. Außerdem solltest Du bedenken, dass die CPU als iGPU nur die Intel UHD 630 mitbringt. Erst ab der I5 11500 kommt die Intel UHD 750 zum Einsatz – welche fast doppelt so leistungsfähig ist und auch z. B. 4-5 Plex Streams gleichzeitig schafft…und ich würde dann gleich die K Version nehmen. Denn Vom Preis macht’s kaum einen Unterschied und untertakten im BIOS ist kein Problem

Nein Serien, Kino Ja dachte ich auch - aber ich war mir nicht wirklich sicher und wusste sons nicht woran es liegen könnte. Nein, ja. /mnt/unassigned/media/xxxxx ---> /mnt/disk1/xxxxx (i installed/configured the unassigned Devices Plugin and Docker binhex krusader) > aus dem entprechenem englischen Post Ich vermute dass die einzelnen Dateien physisch an unterschiedlichen Stellen auf der unassignet HDD liegen, Krusader hat angefangen alles gleichzeitig zu kopieren. Das heißt der Lesekopf dar HDD musste ständig hin und her springen. So ging das den ganzen Tag. Jetzt nach 15 Stunden wird nur noch ein Ordner mit ca. 200 media files (je ca. 2-4 GB) kopiert: Ergebnis: unassigned Disk read: 189 MB/s Array Disk1 write 199MB/s Zusätzlich denke ich dass der Krusader mit den vielen gleichzeitigen Prozessen überfordert war…(Bedienung wurde ziemlich zäh). Und dann läuft das auch noch alles überwiegend auf nur einem (wechselnden) Kern. Da zeigt sich dann ähnlich wie in dem YT Video (dass Du am 12 April verlinkt hast (Danke dafür - ist das von Dir?) in dem die Performance eines Xeons mit dem früheren Atom bezüglich der Single Thread Leistung verglichen wird, worauf man bei der Zusammenstellung der Hardware achten sollte… Na ja, aber ich bin Anfänger und hatte vor 2 Wochen noch nie von unraid, XFS usw. gehört – was weis ich schon…

Mainboard: Gigabyte W480M VISION W 32 GB ECC Ram Intel Core 7 11700K Parity and cache are (for now) off 8x SATA port at the Mainboard available (for now 4x seagate Exos 18TB HDD) SATA /mnt/unassigned/media/xxxxx ---> /mnt/disk1/xxxxx (i installed/configured the unassigned Devices Plugin and Docker binhex krusader) 👍 Yes, the Exos Enterpreis Hdds are great, have in contrast to the WD Pro, a better, lower failure probability and are even cheaper here in Gemany. I do not understand why in the forun we get so often to the WD NAS HDDs and you hardly read what from the Exos. Thank you for your advice. But I think I found the problem. When copying with the krusader, I selected 10-20 folders with about 200 media files (each about 2-4 GB) at the same time. I suspect that the individual files are physically in different places on the unassigned HDD, Krusader has started to copy everything at the same time. That means the read head of the HDD had to jump back and forth constantly. That went on all day. Now after 15 hours only one folder with approx. 500 GB (25 files) is copied. Result: unassigned disk read 189 MB / s Array Disk1 write 199MB / s I suspect the file manager Krusader was overwhelmed ... (also got quite slow) But I'm a beginner and two weeks ago I had never heard of unraid, xfs etc. - what do I know ...

Both - the Array Disk1 (18TB CMR) and the unassigned Disk (Seagate 8TB SMR) are conected directly on the Mainboard (via SATA).... oh, i have seen thaat i wrote SMB - was false - i meant SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording ) But, thanks for your reply

Hey forum, I have installed an unRaid NAS on new hardware in the last few days. (And I'm completely excited) Especially thanks to the good information here and the relaxed / factual interaction of the community with one another, as a newbee I was able to solve some problems with construction / installation / furnishing. Now it's running ... and I'm starting to deal with VMs, Docker, etc. (never worked with NAS, Linux ...). Now I am copying my existing data on the array - around 45 TB. -the disks are connected (mounted) as unassigned devices directly to the NAS -Parity and cache are (for now) off -I copy everything over the Krusader to the 1st NAS disk (e.g. want media folder on Disk1, then my own files from the next old disk on Disk2, etc.) -the array HDDs are Seagate Exos 18TB (CMR) -the old HDDS are Seagate Skyhawk 8TB (SMR) - both directly on the mainboard - the other hardware: 8 core Intel Rocket Lake and 32 GB Ram So should actually go 'fast'. In fact, I only achieve around 23-30 MB / s (read) and that seems pretty slow to me, especially with large files. (because of SMB?) Would be grateful for an assessment and, if necessary, a few tips on how I can do it better. (Sorry for my english i am geman)

Hey Forum, ich habe mir in den letzten Tagen ein unRaid NAS auf neuer Hardware aufgesetzt. (Und bin völlig angefressen und begeistert) Vor allem Dank der vielen guten Infos hier und dem entspannten/sachlichem Umgang der Gemeinde miteinander konnte ich als Newbee schon einige Probleme bei Bau/Installation/Einrichtung lösen. Jetzt läufts…und ich fange an mich mit VMs, Docker usw. zu beschäftigen (noch nie mit NAS, Linux…gearbeitet). Augenblicklich schaffe ich meine vorhandenen Daten auf das Array – sind so um die 45 TB. -die Platten sind (mounted) als unassigned Devices direkt am NAS angebunden -Parity und Cache sind (erst mal) aus -ich kopiere alles über den Krusader auf die 1. NAS Platte (will zb. Mediaordner auf Disk1, Eigene Dateien dann von der nächsten alten Platte auf Disk2 usw.) -die Array Platten sind Seagate Exos 18TB (CMR) -die alten Platten sind Seagate Skyhawk 8TB (SMR) - beide direkt am Mainboard - die sonstige Hardware: 8 Core Intel Rocket Lake und 32 GB Ram Sollte also eigentlich „flott“ gehen. Tatsächlich erreiche ich allerdings gerade mal um die 23-30 MB/s (read) und das kommt mir, gerade bei den großen Dateien ziemlich lahm vor. (wegen SMR?) Wäre dankbar für eine Einschätzung und gegebenen Falls ein paar Tipps wie ich es besser machen kann