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    [Plugin] CA Fix Common Problems

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    Is there a way to disable checking for new docker versions?  My dockers all auto-update on a set schedule, but this means I'll often have 20+ notifications (for docker updates) all of which have already automatically been updated since.  It's not useful and spams the notification list badly. 

    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

    in Motherboards and CPUs

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    6 hours ago, Quentin4K said:

    That's good to hear. I may go with a 13th gen instead of a 12th gen. I assume you're running 6.11.1. Were the 12th gen issues with the kernel only related to iGPU?

    Yeah; iirc there where some issues with E-cores, but they where resolved pretty early. I didn't experience that myself however, the 12400 doesn't have those.

    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    It'll be a lot more than that.  My old 8th gen Celeron could handle 4 such HEVC streams, and literally dozens of 1080p h264 transcodes.  

     

    This far, I haven't been able to get my GPU usage over 30% transcoding, but I haven't had time to stress test since everything was working correctly.  As it stands, my 12400 has done 6 simultaneous transcodes, 2 of which where 4k HEVC > 1080p and 4 where random h264 transcodes.  

     

    Honestly though there's very little appreciable difference in load between h265 and h264.  When quicksync works, it's really spectacular.

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    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    46 minutes ago, james.r.madsen87 said:

    And i really doesn't want tips from a German who got us in this energy crisis to begin with.

    What?  Take that elsewhere, while I don't know him at all, I'm willing to bet he personally had as much to do with Germany's actions as you did.  

     

    Really though, please, *please* let's not go on political rants.  

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    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    It gets WAY more complicated than that though, because when the discrete GPU is transcoding it'll draw FAR more power than an Apollo Lake iGPU.  

     

    But we'd also need to consider pricing.  An Intel Xeon w-1290 costs twice what a (comparably performant) i5-12700 costs, though it offers ECC and such support - and then you need to add a discrete GPU.

     

    Saving 20W (5gbp a month at 0.35gbp/kwh) when your several hundred over in hardware cost is false economy.

     

    Not to say it's a bad system at all, just that it's really not a fair comparison.

     

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    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    1 hour ago, mbc0 said:

    I currently have a 2950X I am using in an unraid server and run 3-4 VM's and 20 or so dockers and Plex.

    My price per kw/h is going up to 0.35p on Monday and as AMD & Intel measure their TDP differently I am struggling to see if it would be econmical to change?

    Can anyone offer any advice please?

    TDP doesn't really matter except where you're running the system flat out.  Would it be worth a full platform change?  Probably not, if you're looking to stay at a high end system running a lot.  The reality is that you'd be better off just cutting back on services.  Have a UPC, or even a killawatt meter?  Just try different configurations, maybe limit total system power (such as undervolt the CPU) with what you've got. 

     

    But it's REALLY hard to see what actual power draw looks like from the wall with all the changing factors (workload, hardware, etc).  Basically, you choose between measures of system power for mid to high end parts, or measures of power efficiency for smaller and portable parts.  You just accept that power draw for high end systems under high utilization... Are high.

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    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    2 hours ago, ich777 said:

    I've bought this one and can confirm that it provides a valid EDID, don't know if you can get it where you live (1080p should do the job just fine).

     

    This can change pretty quickly since back then older iGPUs also had no issue transcoding but suddenly (I think this was somehwere at Kernel version 5.10.x) transcoding stopped working on some hardware combinations and older iGPUs and a connected Display or a HDMI Dummy plug was necessary and this can happen to Alder Lake too.

     

    As said above we are dealing with consumer hardware and it was never intended for our use case with a headless server and HW transcoding without a display connected, that's why I always will recommend to use at least a HDMI Dummy Plug.

    For sure.  That's why I strongly encourage everyone to run one, as it prevents a host of sometimes baffling problems that can arise out of nowhere, even if it is working fine today.  Just better to avoid the potential problems.

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    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    1 hour ago, ich777 said:

    Necessary is a „strong“ word…

     

    Lets put it this way, I would recommend that there is always some kind of Display or at least a HDMI Dummy Plug with a valid EDID connected to the iGPU if you want to use it for transcoding.

     

    In your case it should be enough to have the KVM connected.

    "Should" being operative here.  There's a few layers of should in there.

     

    It depends on the KVM switch, really, if it edid information when off/switched to another input, or he may have an issue where sometimes it fails.  

     

    It *seems* like Alder Lake doesn't care as much as previous iGPU's about having that connection to work (mine has worked without my dummy plug installed since my Alder Lake upgrade) but...

     

    Eh.  It should be fine.

     

    If one has an unused video out on their motherboard, spending the $3 on Amazon for a dummy plug is great piece of mind.

     

    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    20 hours ago, flyize said:

    Interesting. When I did that, mine said that it had to updated manually.

    With the plexinc/pms-docker:plexpass container, if you open the logs while you start it you'll see it actually downloads the binaries every time the container starts up.  

     

    In fact, the container doesn't actually contain Plex Media server at all.  

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    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    4 hours ago, mac110 said:

    HDR tone mapping makes only sense if the most of your clients are not HDR capable and for the HDR capable clients it is even a bad thing because they loose the HDR feature

    Obviously it's only desired if clients cannot use it.  But note that it doesn't disable HDR system wide: direct played or streamed media keeps its HDR.  Tone mapping only happens on transcoded media.

     

    If you need to transcode and do not have an HDR capable device and no tone mapping, the end result looks *very* bad.  But if you DO have tone mapping, it just looks like any other non HDR content (fine, if not ideal).  You've already chosen to accept a decrease in visual fidelity for some reason (probably bandwidth or data caps) so just getting non-HDR isn't going to be a big deal.

    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    1 hour ago, philbar715 said:

    on the linuxserver container there was already a version tag that I changed to 'latest'. honestly have not figured out how to add tags yet, unless tag=variable or label. 
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    I can't get an image now, but there'll be a field "Repository" that has "plexinc/pms-docker" (or "plexinc/pms-docker:latest") you just add the tag to the end of that, so change it to "plexinc/pms-docker:plexpass"

    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

    in Motherboards and CPUs

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    21 minutes ago, dchamb said:

    I understand it has discussed frequently and it also appears there is discussion to the contrary. I don't want to tear this system apart only to have regrets.

     

    The only discussion to the contrary are people who set it up and it initially seems to work (it will work, after all) right up till when the crashing starts.  

     

    To be absolutely clear, *with the current Unraid 6.10 build*, Plex (and Jellyfin, and Emby) work fine, *so long as you don't pass them the iGPU and/or enable hardware transcoding.*

     

    This isn't debated at all.

     

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    Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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    20 minutes ago, scott47 said:

    What would you move them to? I used Emby for a while but it never really clicked. Are there any other options it there?

    Emby or Jellyfin; generally Jellyfin is what people like.  

     

    It doesn't matter though Jellyfin or Emby won't hardware transcode under Unraid either until the kernel is updated.

     

    Personally, I've got a Jellyfin instance running as well on a separate PC (also running Plex) and really?  I think Plex is just better.  Much more feature rich.  But to each their own.

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