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On 4/4/2024 at 1:59 PM, ChatNoir said:
Not recommended is different from not supported.
I've been using them for around thirteen years with unRAID. With my first three unRAID setups. With around 16 drives attached to the port multiplier cards, with each system. They have been rock solid in my use. But, when I setup my unRAIDs four through nine, I got away from using port multiplier enclosures. And only use six drives, internally, in the HP Gen 7 microservers. Since those external enclosures use a lot of power. Plus I'm using 2TB, 3TB, and/or 4TB drives in my first three unRAID setups, with the port multiplier cards. WHile my newer six unRAID setups, from 2023, use 12TB and/or 14 TB drives.
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I updated my nine unRAID setups on Wednesday last week. That use HP Gen7 Microservers. They all upgraded to v6.12.9 without any issues.
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Here are my newer unRAID setups, four through nine. That still use HP Gen7 Microservers. Each one has five EXOS hard drives (12TB and/or 14TB). With one as parity and a 1TB 870 EVO SSD for the cache drive. With a UPS for each unRAID setup. And one UPS for the 2.5GbE switch.
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Here are my three old unRAID setups, 1, 2, and 3. That use external enclosures with the HP Gen7 Microservers.
Each unRAID setup uses 20+ hard drives (2TB to 4TB WD and Seagate) for the array and a 1TB WD for the cache drive.
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1 hour ago, jonboykayaks said:
This is in the release notes for 6.12.6:
Known issues
If you are using a Realtek 8125 2.5GbE NIC there is an issue with the 'stock' r8169 Linux driver that causes system hang if you enable jumbo frames. Either do not use jumbo frames or consider installing the Realtek vendor-supplied r8125 driver plugin. (FYI: the stock 'r8169' driver also handles the Realtek 8125 chip sets - there is no separate 'stock' r8125 driver, yes this is confusing).
Thanks. I did see it in the release notes. And I remember trying the r8125 plugin, when I setup six of my unRAIDs, with the r8125 cards. But I uninstalled the plugin after testing. I don't remember why though, since it's been around six months.
So I did reinstall that r8125 plugin driver and was able to upgrade those six unRAIDs to 6.12.6, without any issues. And have been able to continue using Jumbo frames.
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I am having the same issue with 6.12.6 as 6.12.5. With the RTL8125 2.5GbE card going down from Jumbo frames. Will this be a permanent problem, or will this be fixed at some point? Because I have a noticeable transfer throughput slowdown when Jumbo frames are not enabled. So I would prefer to not disable Jumbo Frames.
Right now, 6.12.4 is working fine. But I had upgraded to 6.12.6 and had to roll back to 6.12.4 by taking out the flash drive and copying the files from the previous version over. So then I figured I would try 6.12.5. Since I did not see anything in the notes about the RTL8125 2.5GbE card. But that had the same issue. So I need to roll back again to 6.12.4 by copying the files from the flash drive.
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On 8/13/2023 at 12:32 PM, RandomTask said:
Hello,
I currently run Unraid on an old HP MicroServer N40L and the 6.11.x releases were working fine on my server. However, attempting to upgrade to 6.12.x appears to break the boot sequence. It doesn't even get to the boot menu, and it feels symptomatic of a misconfigured MBR.
I've experienced this both through upgrading via the GUI and a clean, fresh install using the Unraid USB Creator tool. If I downgrade back to 6.11.x (again using Unraid USB Creator) it boots back up normally as I would expect.
What has actually changed in the 6.12.x in terms of booting up that has fundamentally broken it for older hardware such as mine?I'm running nine of those old HP Microservers with unRAID. One N36L, five N40L, and three N54L units.
They are all running unRAID 6.12.3 without any issues.
But I also typically upgrade my unRAID OS as soon as they are out of beta, and available for general use. So I did not go straight from 6.11.x to 6.12.3
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Is there anyway you could add an option to benchmark SSDs when the CPU core count is below 4?
All my unRAID systems run on old dual core CPUs. It would be nice to be able to benchmark the SSD I have in each one. That is used for a cache drive.
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Fifteen years ago I strictly used WD drives for my LAN storage.
But over the years I gradually switched to Seagate. First Seagate Barracuda drives. Then Seagate Iron Wolf. Then Seagate Terascale.
Most recently I started using the Seagate EXOS drives. I recently purchased seventeen of the 14TB Exos X14 drives, renewed.
And six of the 12TB EXOS X18 drives, renewed.
Although I still use WD drives, for my external USB drives, that are attached to my Plex PCs. And also in my old unRAIDs. For my new unRAIDs, I have gone all in with Seagate. Except for the cache drive. Which are 1TB Samsung 870 EVO SSDs. And once I transfer all my content from my oldest unRAID setups, which still use the ReiserFS file system. I will purge the forty or so, old 2TB and 3TB, WD drives. And will be left with only Seagate Terascale and Exos drives, in all my unRAID setups.
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On 5/24/2023 at 3:51 PM, etsi said:
So maybe the problem is the low performance of the drivers that are very old. Because I want to upgrade the disks I will try that first on N36L and if it's still slow I will upgrade the system.
With no Parity drive in use, the N36L should have no problem maxing out the throughput on the drives.
How old are the drives? I know I have 24+ 4TB Seagate Terascale drives in unRAID setups. With an N40L and N54L, and they don't come anywhere close to reaching the throughput that my Exos X14 and X18 drives have. But they will still hit up to 170MB/s throughput. While the Exos drives will hit up to 250MB/s throughput, in the N36L.
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I have a couple of those QNAP switches. I've never had any problem getting over 8Gbps throughput, between two PCs, using Commscope Cat6 patch cables. On the 10GbE ports. And then Cat5e is rated for up to 100 meters at 2.5 GbE. My unRAIDs are connected to the 2.5 GbE ports. Some using generic Cat5e. At 2.5 GbE, they work just the same as the ones using Commscope Cat6 cables.
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On 5/21/2023 at 10:05 AM, etsi said:
N36L isn't enough powerful for unraid? Running iperf I get gigabit speeds but disks are slow. Using the disks without unraid I can read/write 100mb/sec.
I just setup an N36L last night. I bought a "For Parts" N54L off eBAY and needed to replace the Motherboard. So I was able to pickup an N36L Motherboard (and Tray)for around $40 shipped, off ebay.
In my testing last night, with no parity drive, I had no problem hitting up to 1.6Gbps transfer rates, using a 2.5GbE network card (in the PCIe x1 slot), and bypassing the cache drive. And the 12 TB EXOS X18 drives I had in the system, easily hit up to 250MB/s (2gb/s) transfer rates. With consistent rates over 200MB/s(1.6Gb/s). Both from the Motherboard SAS connector and the SATA card I have installed.
My SSD cache drive, 870 EVO, was even hitting around 450MB/s (3.6gb/s) peaks. But that 2.5" drive, and a fifth 3.5" drive, is connected to a PCIe x4 SATA card. And it hit those peaks when pulling cached data from the 16GB of ECC memory.
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I have 4GB, 8GB, and 16GB in my HP N36L, N40L, and N54L microservers. But I will be upgrading them all to 16GB. I currently only have four with 16GB. But, as I setup new arrays, I am installing two, 8GB, ECC sticks of memory. Unfortunately, 16GB is the max memory it will take.
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I'm currently running six unRAID servers. And I plan to setup two to three more. After I finish transferring data from my first three unRAID servers (only 2TB, 3TB, and 4TB drives), to my second three (Five 14TB drives in each). The first three still use the Reiser file system. So I want to move everything off of them. And then I will take the 20+ 4TB drives I have in the first three unRAID servers. And use those to setup four unRAID servers.
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On 12/10/2021 at 11:30 PM, MrGrey said:
If anything spins down my drives, I consider that a failure.
To each their own.
WoW! I want my drives spun down whenever they aren't in use. I have several unRAIDs setup with 20+ drives. I use the Dynamix caching plugin so directories are in memory. And if a drive needs to spin up it's only a short delay. Much better than my systems using 200 watts or so each, constantly. With everything spun up.
Although I am in the process of moving everything off of my first three unRAIDs, with 20+ drives in each. To unRAID setups with only five drives in use. My unRAIDs with, a large number of drives, use 3TB and 4TB drives with two parity drives. And my new unRAIDs will only use five 14TB drives. With only one parity drive. Then I will setup several unRAIDs, only using the 4TB drives I have. With only five drives in each again. But only 16TB, total storage, for the arrays. That way I can further split up my content to separate systems. And only turn them on as needed.
Right now, it looks like I might end up with eight or nine unRAID setups. When I'm finished transferring all my content.
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Wow! I completely forgot I was still using the ancient reiserfs file system.
I'm glad I recently decided to move the data from my older three unRAID setups to new ones. I am still using reiserfs, with sixty plus drives, in those three old setups. So with the three new unRAID systems, I setup last week, I am using XFS for the array drives and btrfs for the cache drives.
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I deleted everything on the unRAID usb drive and started from scratch. Now I am connecting. I'll see if it stays ok overnight.
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I just started having this issue an hour or so ago with a new unRAID I setup on Saturday. It was fine prior to that. And I also set up another one on Friday night. And that one is still working fine.
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Doh!!😳 Somehow I missed this in the FAQ.
QuoteLicense upgrades are purchased from within the Unraid WebGUI via the top right drop-down.
Pricing is as follows:
Basic license to Plus = $39 USD
Basic license to Pro = $79 USD
Plus license to Pro = $49 USD
So, I guess, there is an extra $10 cost to upgrade from Basic to Plus or Pro. But, that is fine. I can't see needing more Pro Licenses. But at least I know there will be an option, in the webGUI. To be able to upgrade from the Basic license, if I need it in the future.
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I plan on buying two more unRAID licenses soon. My first four unRAID setups use Pro licenses. But I will be setting up a fifth and sixth unRAID, using N40L Microservers. I only need six disks in each system. Since I don't plan on using external storage cases any more. So my plan is to purchase the Basic licenses. But I want to make sure than I can still upgrade to Plus or Pro, by paying the difference, if I need to in the future. Or is there an extra cost involved when upgrading?
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23 hours ago, JonathanM said:
Super small = heat buildup = dead drives
Go with a large form factor with lots of metal shell, and put it inside the case where it can't get disturbed. If your motherboard doesn't have a USB port internal, motherboard header to USB socket adapters are cheap and easy to fit.
I'm using HP microservers, N40L and N54L models. I use the internal USB port, on the motherboard, for the unRAID USB drive. I've been using the small USB drives for unRAID since I first started using unRAID in 2011. So far, I have not run into any issues with them. Hopefully, that continues to be the case.
But these new unRAIDs setups will be using 14TB drives. My previous setups never exceeded 4TB drives. I used external cases with port multiplier, eSATA ports. To have 20+ drives in use with each unRAID setup. My new unRAID setups will have five, 14TB drives. With one parity, instead of the two I had been using. Plus one SSD, 1TB, for the cache drive. But these will all be internal drives, in each HP N40L or N54L Microserver. Instead of messing with the external cases. Which I had been doing since 2008. When I first setup a Windows home server on previous model HP microservers. That had around thirty drives, using external cases, with eSATA port multiplier ports.
When I switched to unRAID I kept using external cases, unfortunately. They have always worked very well for me. But they use much more power.
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I ended up getting a SanDisk, 16GB Ultra Fit USB 3.1 drive from Amazon. To go in my fifth unRAID setup. It came in a blister pack, so I hope it's OK. But I got this USB drive because I have been using them in three of my unRAID setups, since 2019, with zero issues. SO, hopefully, this one is fine. Although I'm still waiting for another N40L system to arrive from eBay. That I will be using it in.
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Wow! I'm glad I saw this. I was going to get another SanDisk USB. I got two back in 2019. When I had setup two additional unRAID setups. And was going to use the same model USB drives. Since I have had zero issues with the ones I got in 2019. But I guess i need to look for something else now.
What is a popular USB drive people use now for unRAID? One that is super small.
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Does the USB stick for unRAID or a network card count as an attached device?
I plan on moving from three unRAID setups, with 16+ external drives attached, using eSATA port multipliers. To five unRAID setups with only six drives in each setup. 1-Parity, 1-cache- and four drives in the array. So I need to pickup a fifth license. My current four are the Pro licenses. That I got when they had a discount for getting two licenses together. But I only need one more. And I don't plan on having 20+ total drives in each system any more.
So I would only need the basic license. Unless the network card and unRAID USB stick count as attached devices. Then I would need to get the Plus.
Unraid OS version 6.12.10 available
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I have been using SATA port multiplier cards. The four stock internal drive connections, the HP Gen 7 Microservers use are SAS. But the port multiplier cards installed and external enclosures I have all use SATA.
The Port multiplier cards I use, in those first three unRAID setups, are the Rosewill RC-218 PCI Express SATA II cards. They are very, very old now. I got my first one in 2011. When I switched from my Windows Home Server to my first unRAID setup. But that was an unRAID system I put together from scratch. With a combination of new and old components. I did not get my first Gen 7 microserver until 2013.
EDIT: On a more relevant note, I just now finished upgrading my nine unRAID setups to v6.12.10. They all upgraded without any issues.