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I finally put in a 850 EVGA gold and the 16TB was instantly recognized and no weird noises so far just an hour into the preclear. I pulled out an old 400w EVGA which must be the issue. Thought I would follow up if anyone else has this issue. This probably solves all the weird issues I have been having!

Not that I can tell it is a bit of a rats nest in there lol. I think the only adapters or for case fans. But I tried 3 open power cables that I traced back direct to the PSU. It is not modular probably due to its age so if the cables are bad the PSU might as well be bad I guess. I ordered a EVGA 850 gold that will arrive Saturday. I don't mind having a newer PSU anyway. Hopefully it will address the issue.

While messing with my power on 16tb drive disk 4 and 5 disappeared. I reconnected their power and they show back up. I have been thinking my previous issues were sata cables coming loose as suggested here.. but now I am thinking more so the PSU.

I just got a 16TB drive to test out in my unraid. This will help reduce the number of 8TB drives I have (5+parity). The first is going to replace my parity and the subsequent 16s will replace my 8s. When I plug in my 16TB drive it spins up and clicks in kind of a loop and is not seen as an unassigned device. I had the same issue with the previous 8TB parity drive I removed a few days ago. When I plug the 16TB into my Windows PC it does the initial spin up and click and runs smooth and is recognized in Disk Management. This made me think the previous 8TB is probably fine.. and something is wrong with my unraid PC. I tried 3 sata power connections in the computer and they all did the same thing. Two separate "chains" direct from the mobo - no adapters. What would cause this? My guess is the PSU. I actually don't remember what PSU I am running but it is probably an old mid tier EVGA 400w if I had to guess. My Windows PC does not have near as many drives but has 3 sata and a 1070TI and a EVGA gold PSU. I am considering just ordering an EVGA 850w GOLD from Amazon to try and remedy the issue. I wouldn't think click sounds would be power related but considering the drive(s) seem to be stuck in a boot loop I can see it being a power issue. I think next I might stop the array and try to power the drive from another (working) drives sata power. Any other suggestions? Could this simply be a power supply issue? I have been plagued with weird issues for a long time and I am wondering now my PSU could be related to most of my previous issues. Thanks for any guidance!

It was connected to a PCI controller (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ST9CPND/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) along with many other drives. I moved it to the motherboard with a different cable (old first generation I7 mobo). However, it went really slow after using a different cable to the mobo as well. It was reseating all other cables and rebooting and now it is running fast again (although it has now slowed to 55MBs..) Hard to tell what is related. I guess my plan for now, unless I get other advice, is to see if the parity can complete and then run some smart tests.

It looks like the ATA11 errors I posted above are the parity drive. If I click on the drive icon on the Main page under Identification I can see the errors from the log button in the upper right. The other 5 drives are clean. What do these errors indicate? I swapped cable and port and still get them (now on ata5). Is the drive bad? I guess the next step might be run an extended Smart test? Interestingly, before discovering which drive the errors were for, I reseating all cables and rebooted unraid. Now the pairty drive is running at 100MB/s+ for over 10 minutes now. Strange! (the reset link and frozen warnings/errors still continue though..)

What is recommended? WD?

I am running all Seagate BarraCuda 8TB. Similar drives in my Windows backup system never have any issues. Is it a general issue or dependent on file system?

Now my parity check is down to 3MB/s 33 days long.. I have 2 spare 8tb drives I can swap with it for testing if needed. EDIT: Just used a different cable to a different port and restarted parity.. even worse at 800KB/s 80 days and counting..

I posted a month or two ago about how I get disk and parity errors often with Unraid and after looking at the logs was told likely it is sata cable was not seating properly. Well I just logged in and saw parity had read errors on May 5th and it was trying to re-check parity since then and got stuck at 1.5%. So I stopped the array, unplugged sata and power to my drive and now parity check is chugging at 30-80MB/s (only 1% so far though). Could some of the kind experts here take a look at my log I attached? Also, my real time log is showing : May 9 13:50:10 statiknas kernel: ata11: hard resetting link May 9 13:50:20 statiknas kernel: ata11: softreset failed (1st FIS failed) May 9 13:50:20 statiknas kernel: ata11: hard resetting link May 9 13:50:21 statiknas kernel: ata11: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 320) May 9 13:50:21 statiknas kernel: ata11.00: configured for UDMA/133 May 9 13:50:21 statiknas kernel: ata11: EH complete May 9 13:50:33 statiknas kernel: ata11.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x7f0 SErr 0x9b0000 action 0xe frozen These errors are common throughout my experience with Unraid regardless of drives or cables. It is always something going on like this. Is this.. another sata cable issue? My PC case has not even been bumped since my last post so I don't know how any cables are coming loose and they appear properly connected. Any ideas? Thanks! statiknas-diagnostics-20220509-1647.zip

Because I was able to find similar posts and resolve the issue. For example the repair to fix file system issue. I am a procrastinator in this regard and am foolish for not posting earlier. It is good to hear cable(s) is the culprit, possibly for all my issues. Kind of annoying they are so sensitive but better than power issues or bad drives I suppose!

Thank you for the reply. Sorry if I seem a little frustrated. Is it possible to connect a USB3 / esata enclosure to unraid such as: https://www.amazon.com/Mediasonic-H82-SU3S2-ProBox-External-Enclosure/dp/B005GYDMYG/ref=sr_1_4?crid=275ALKA4DGJ9I&keywords=8+bay+enclosure&qid=1648399811&sprefix=8+bay+enclosure%2Caps%2C59&sr=8-4 Would that make the cable issues less of a problem since there are no sata cables involved? This enclosure is what I use in Windows as a backup but I was not sure if Unraid would recognize it or be recommended. However, I imagine an enclosure might make running smart checks harder without dedicated connection to each drive? As for the cables. I did just move so possibly they came loose although the server has worked for the past 3 days it has been back online. Most of my sata cables are snap cables so maybe I will order a set of new non-snapping ones. All my drives are Seagate. I have never had drive errors from sata cables in any other desktop. Is this unique to Unraid / file server somehow? Another question. If my parity drive gets an error from sata cable, which seems easy to occur, it requires full parity resync each time? Thanks!

Writing this as kind of a last resort with Unraid. Before I was using Drivepool in Windows as my main system (now it runs my backup enclosures with zero issues). I did not have a parity but I had zero errors or issues. Unraid gives me monthly errors that cause work and some panic in my system. I realize the difference between DrivePool and Unraid is a computer vs enclosure so different power, etc. I am not convinced Unraid itself is the issue but I need some help I just don't have time to troubleshoot this all the time. Some common issues: 1. I will have a drive go missing and if I power cycle the drive it often comes back. 2. I get read errors on a drive multiple times and then it passes a preclear (with preread) with zero problems. 3. File system error which usually is fixed by running the repair command wit -L 4. And my current issue that has returned... my parity drive is disabled. I am rebuilding parity now for at least the 5th time. I am using a combo of motherboard sata pots along with: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ST9CPND/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 my PSU is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LV8TZAG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 To my knowledge the sata card is not a Marvel controller and my PSU has 43A of power on the 12v rail. I have 6 8TB drives with ssd cache. I am considering the PSU may be an issue or going bad. I am not an expert here but I think the PSU is sufficient?I have changed all the cables many times. I uploaded my diag file after I noticed my parity was disabled (it worked yesterday). Any advice here? statiknas-diagnostics-20220327-1214.zip