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(Another) Question about upgrading cache drives

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I have a single cache drive, an old thing I had lying around, and want to upgrade it. I've seen various approaches to do this, most a couple or more years old.

 

What is the current consensus about switching cache drives?

 

Thanks - and a happy New year to everyone!

Solved by JorgeB

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What is the filesystem being used?

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27 minutes ago, JorgeB said:

What is the filesystem being used?

The cache drive? Btrfs.

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Do you want to upgrade to a mirror with 2 new devices, or remain as a single device?

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Just now, JorgeB said:

Do you want to upgrade to a mirror with 2 new devices, or remain as a single device?

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. I need to upgrade to a larger drive.

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So I sat down to do the upgrade, but I hit a (small?) wall. I'm supposed to set my shares to:

 

Primary: pool

Secondary: array

Mover: pool-> Array.

 

Ok, that's understandable. However, some of the shares I have (well, I don't care about the others, but this is the case with my main share which hosts the Public, SMB-shared data) have only one storage option, and it's set to Cache- I can't choose a secondary storage. I'm pretty certain my Public share is NOT on the cache drive since the data it holds is about 20 times the SSD cache drive I have, so what gives?

 

Any ideas would be awesome...

 

EDIT I think I may have hit a bug?

When I enter the Public share settings, Primary is Cache, in the Secondary Storage pull-down menu every option is greyed out.

 

Now, if I set Primary to Array and then back to Cache, the pull-down menu allows me to choose the array as secondary storage! 

 

Is this normal?

7.0.0-rc.2, btw.

Edited by Krakout
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48 minutes ago, Krakout said:

Is this normal?

Yes, if the array is primary, a pool cannot be secondary.

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1 minute ago, JorgeB said:

Yes, if the array is primary, a pool cannot be secondary.

Ok, learned something new today - and it makes sense, but it doesn't explain the menu behavior... Let me repeat in other words: the share has Cache set as storage only and choosing a secondary storage is impossible until I change the storage to Array and back to Cache. That's what doesn't feel normal.

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Do you have multiple pools?

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No, only the one I'm upgrading.

Edited by Krakout

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43 minutes ago, Krakout said:

the share has Cache set as storage only and choosing a secondary storage is impossible until I change the storage to Array and back to Cache. That's what doesn't feel normal.

Ahh, was misunderstanding, no that is not normal, which release are you running?

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6 minutes ago, JorgeB said:

Ahh, was misunderstanding, no that is not normal, which release are you running?

7 rc2. Time for a bug report?

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Upgrade to stable, it was released yesterday, and retest.

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1 minute ago, JorgeB said:

Upgrade to stable, it was released yesterday, and retest.

Huh, funny, it didn't alert me..

Let me check manually! 

 

Yup, there it is. Ok will do.

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Ok, 7 stable fixed it - the Public share actually appears to be on the array instead of cache, as it should.

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...and back with another question (sorry :( ).

 

I moved all the data off the old SSD, put in the new ssd, removed the previous pool, added a new pool with the new disk. 

 

However, under Pool devices the SSD appears with FS:vfat and the note Unmountable: wrong or no file system

 

So I go to Array operation, format Unmountable disks, after a couple of seconds the process seems to end (GUI is released again) and under Pool devices the same details (vgat, wrong fs) appear again... Am I missing something? 

 

Edit: hmm I suspect there may be partitions on it, from what I've been reading? Not impossible, the drive was used before...

Edited by Krakout

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With the array stopped, click on the pool, change it to a different filesystem and re-format.

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1 hour ago, JorgeB said:

With the array stopped, click on the pool, change it to a different filesystem and re-format.

I had tried that, exact same outcome... I guess I'll have to go to the cli to figure out the partition table.

 

EDIT ahhh yes, fdisk gives: 

/dev/sdb1      40    409639    409600   200M EFI System
/dev/sdb2  411648 937701375 937289728 446.9G Microsoft basic data

 

Will try deleting...

Edited by Krakout

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Unraid should still try to format with the specified filesystem, you could just wipe it, but post a screenshot first from where you are seeing vfat

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Here's the screen. Notice there's no Format button, just a greyed- out "Mount" one...10.0.0.1003d2ad6c16c8e.thumb.png.a70c35c443dba37e5b8d650e39d796ee.png10.0.0.1003d2ad6c16c8e.thumb.png.a70c35c443dba37e5b8d650e39d796ee.png

 

EDIT Oh wait, after a couple of array start-stops, it finally formatted it! Weird... Let me reboot to make sure it's ok.

Edited by Krakout

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Glad it's resolved, but I meant format using an Unraid pool, not UD.

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32 minutes ago, JorgeB said:

Glad it's resolved, but I meant format using an Unraid pool, not UD.

I was seeing no option anywhere. Only under the Operations tab there was a format button (such the confirmation checkbox next to it), but it wasn't formatting - what I described in a previous post. Stupid me, didn't occur to look at the logs at the time

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