Hi all

I have searched for references to this igpu in the forum but have not found any threads with the same problem as mine. Perhaps I have not searched correctly.

Here is my scenario:

• Unraid mounted on an i5 8500U, with 32GB of RAM

• I have a VM already set up and accessible via RDP, with this configuration.

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• Now I want to create a second VM so that the VM can be used with Windows from the TV connected to the computer.

• I have set the configuration like this, but I can't get anything to appear on the screen; the TV always says there is no input signal.

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I have seen on some sites that it would be necessary to put a BIOS .rom on the igpu in the VM configuration, but although I have searched on techpowerup, I have not been able to find a .rom for the UDH graphics 630 or for the i5-8500 processor.

What other information can I provide that might be useful in trying to determine the problem?

3 hours ago, SirZoX said:

What other information can I provide that might be useful in trying to determine the problem?

not much, its more or less not possible to use the iGPU in a VM with physical hdmi out to a tv, therefore a dedicated dgpu would be the better choice ...

also be aware, if it would work, the iGPU would be exclusiv to the VM, no more Docker etc usage then parallel possible ...

may describe what your intention is ... sample, there is a gvt-g plugin which can create vgpu's which you could use in a VM, then using a displaylink (USB) Adapter to hdmi for a TV output, should be enough for browsing, office, may even watching some yt videos ...

sadly you use a U CPU where extra features are hardware limited ... so may will not work overall, just as note ahead ...

Thanks for your reply, @alturismo .

My intention, from the outset, is to have two VMs.

One of them, let's call it vm1, is the one I would always use remotely, via RDP, and which would never need to be connected to external screens or any other device. I would always access it via RDP and use it for personal project development.

The second VM, let's call it VM2, is the one I would use for the TV. Its main function is to stream films and videos from Netflix and other similar platforms. Always from a browser. And this is the VM where I would connect an integrated Rii keyboard and mouse and the LG TV via display port.

Given that the tower has a narrow profile, I am looking for VGAs that are inexpensive and low-profile, but either I am not looking properly or I can only find VGAs for over £40, which I honestly did not think would be so expensive for what they offer. Even on the second-hand market on apps, I find similar prices, but obviously, you cannot trust them too much.

as a decent displaylink adapter costs even more ... may consider some special offer for some streaming stick therefore ?

also nicer in the usability ... a remote vs keyboard / mouse ... but thats just a personal preference ;)

Should this vga card works? --> Gigabyte GV-N210SL-1G GeForce 210 GDDR3

My Rii is this one and it was working with windows

1 hour ago, SirZoX said:

Gigabyte GV-N210SL-1G GeForce 210 GDDR3

this one is very old ... rather look for an gt1030 low profile ... which also can handle decoding your streams ... sample, hevc ...

Thanks alturismo.

I've take a look for a new units and all are closer to 80-100 euros, too expensive for what I want to do
I've found a geforce 710, which has a .rom in techpowerup and I think maybe it should work, but it's only an idea and obviously I'm not sure

This unit is second hand, cheaper than gt1030 and the reseller is closer to my town.

I'm hesitating about whether to try this one out.

I don't really think I should make a big investment in this project just to watch Netflix on TV.

7 hours ago, SirZoX said:

I've found a geforce 710, which has a .rom in techpowerup and I think maybe it should work, but it's only an idea and obviously I'm not sure

also has no hardware hevc support ... your decision ;)

as mentioned, for streaming video stuff etc ... cheap ATV Stick ... or a little bette, a used Shield TV

I've finally bought a second hand gt1030 ddr4 as suggested.

As soon as I receive the unit I will place it in the computer.

I just need to configure the second VM to use this vga card or is there anything I need to do?

7 hours ago, SirZoX said:

I just need to configure the second VM to use this vga card or is there anything I need to do?

BIOS should be setup to use "multi monitor", primary should be iGPU, above 4g and rbar activated.

Background, if a pcie gpu is installed, most bios would deactivate the iGPU and primary would be the Nvidia then, which would be then used by unraid ;)

so may also vfio bind the card (including the audio part) in unraid too to make sure.

and then .. yes, pass the video, audio, enable multifunction, enjoy

Hello again, @alturismo .

In the end, the GT1030 didn't work for me, as the heat sink was huge and didn't fit in the case. The PCIe port is at the very bottom, so low that if the VGA heat sink occupies two slots, it doesn't fit because it collides with the power supply.

They've let me try out a Radeon 5450, and I'm testing it out.

Right now, the second VM is configured like this:

I haven't found any ‘multi-monitor’ option in the BIOS, but I have found that I can specify whether I want the iGPU or the Radeon to be the primary display. I've tried both options, but neither of them lets me see the Windows login screen on the TV.

I'm sure that ‘multi-monitor’ option exists under some other similar name in the BIOS, but everything related to virtualisation on the motherboard is enabled, so in the end, I'm not sure what else I can try.

6 hours ago, SirZoX said:

but I have found that I can specify whether I want the iGPU or the Radeon to be the primary display

onboard (should enable multi monitor then)

besides virt options, look for "avove 4g .." and may resizeable bar (rbar) to be enabled.

not much more todo then ...

connect your hdmi / dp cable from your dGPU to your TV, that should be it ...

as may mentioned before, AMD is likely more critical ... but at least a 1st boot output should be there, sorry ...

your passthrough is looking fine, nothing to complain there.

you can try by, setup a VM without dGPU passthrough, install native VNC there, also enable RDP, check if its working fine, then switch main video to the passthrough again, check via VNC, RDP if the card is recognized in device manager etc ...

Yesterday I had a lot of problems testing the Radeon 5450 I had before because I managed to get the video out on the TV, but there was no way to get the audio. The driver wasn't working, so I tried installing a Win10 VM (I had Win11), but that didn't work either. I also updated the BIOS to the latest version (from earlier this year), and even though I spent almost three hours testing it, nothing worked.

Finally, as I said, today I got a GT1030 with these specifications.

Now I can watch videos and I have audio, but there's anoooooooooooooother problem:

The sound is robotic and gets slower and slower.

If I play a YouTube video, it starts out robotic from the beginning, and after 10 seconds, the audio speed is maybe 30% or 40% of the original and it's still robotic.

I tried connecting to the VM via RDP and playing from there, and in this case it works fine.

So I tried using another HDMI cable, connecting it to another HDMI port on my TV, but in all cases the audio is poor.

Of course, the drivers are the latest for Windows 10 (I haven't tried Windows 11, I would have to make a new VM).

My VM has this config. I've tried also with no .rom uploaded

9 hours ago, SirZoX said:

The sound is robotic and gets slower and slower.

ok, may try this and enable MSI on audio (its a common point, mainly on linux VM's, but also can occur on Win VM's)

run as admin, enable MSI on your audio device, reboot VM, should be solved.

MSI_util_v3.exe

I'm not sure how, but it's working with no changes using the tool.

It's really weird when something is working and you don't understand what you did to fix the problems.

I just had to say many many many thanks to @alturismo for your knowledge and help.

1 hour ago, SirZoX said:

I'm not sure how, but it's working with no changes using the tool.

keep it in mind, it likes to happen sometimes ;) i always use it on all VM's here.

pretty decent explained for what it is

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