October 9, 200817 yr Hi, I just attempted to build my first unRAID server after having read this forum in detail. Here is my config: Cooler Master Elite 330 Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3 motherboard Kingston KVR800D2N5K2/2G, DDR2 RAM Intel Celeron 440 2.0GHz (BX80557440) Antec EarthWatts, 380W 2 x Samsung HD103UJ F1 1TB The unRAID server boots normally but when I try to connect to '//tower' from my iMac, it can't find it?! (I also tried the IP 127.0.0.1) I used 'ifconfig' and this is what I see: I know that on the Hardware Compatibility page it says to 'Upgrade to latest BIOS' for the Motherboard I'm using, but I'm not really sure how to do this? (any help with this would also be appreciated!) And could this be the reason the network is not working? Should I try an other NIC just in case? Thanks in advance for helping a "stuck" and frustrated newbie! Lucas
October 9, 200817 yr Your server does not have an IP address..... presumably DHCP failed. Do you have a working DHCP server on your network? Try assigning a static IP address to your unRAID server.
October 9, 200817 yr Check out this thread: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=1693.msg11564#msg11564 Type ls /boot Most likely, if you do not see any files listed at /boot, you did not set the volume label on the flash drive. What do you see as a result of typing this after logging in as root: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label I just noticed, you are using a MAC. It probably does not have a DHCP server. Edit your network.cfg to assign a static IP address. One more thing, 127.0.0.1 on ANY machine is an alias for itself. It is not a routable IP address, but used by programs on the server itself. Joe L;
October 9, 200817 yr Author Your server does not have an IP address..... presumably DHCP failed. Do you have a working DHCP server on your network? Try assigning a static IP address to your unRAID server. How do I assign a static IP ?? Thanks, Lucas
October 9, 200817 yr Author Check out this thread: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=1693.msg11564#msg11564 Type ls /boot Most likely, if you do not see any files listed at /boot, you did not set the volume label on the flash drive. What do you see as a result of typing this after logging in as root: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label I just noticed, you are using a MAC. It probably does not have a DHCP server. Edit your network.cfg to assign a static IP address. One more thing, 127.0.0.1 on ANY machine is an alias for itself. It is not a routable IP address, but used by programs on the server itself. Joe L; I tried the ls /boot and I get to see all the files from the USB is that ok? I guess that means it is setup correct and bootable?! And YES I'm using a MAC to try and connect to the unRAID server. Lucas
October 9, 200817 yr Do you have a router or server with a dhcp server? You are not pulling an ip address if you do. Which means you either have a dhcp problem or your nic isn't being detected by unRAID.
October 9, 200817 yr Author Do you have a router or server with a dhcp server? You are not pulling an ip address if you do. Which means you either have a dhcp problem or your nic isn't being detected by unRAID. No, there is no router. The unRAID server is connected through a switch directly to an iMac. The iMac in turn is connected to the internet through a wireless connection. So it could be that the onboard NIC is not working with unRAID? Any users with the same MB having these problems? Regards, Lucas
October 9, 200817 yr Author Your server does not have an IP address..... presumably DHCP failed. Do you have a working DHCP server on your network? Try assigning a static IP address to your unRAID server. How do I assign a static IP ?? Thanks, Lucas Sorry, After searching a bit longer than 5 min I found the information I was looking for about the static IP, it's here: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=1628.0 I'm going to try this soon, but would still like to hear all of your thoughts on this. Thanks, Lucas
October 9, 200817 yr Do you have a router or server with a dhcp server? You are not pulling an ip address if you do. Which means you either have a dhcp problem or your nic isn't being detected by unRAID. No, there is no router. The unRAID server is connected through a switch directly to an iMac. The iMac in turn is connected to the internet through a wireless connection. So it could be that the onboard NIC is not working with unRAID? Any users with the same MB having these problems? Regards, Lucas You just answered your own problem.. Your unRAID doesn't have access to a dhcp server... you will have to set a static ip on the same subnet as your mac
October 9, 200817 yr Do you have a router or server with a dhcp server? You are not pulling an ip address if you do. Which means you either have a dhcp problem or your nic isn't being detected by unRAID. No, there is no router. The unRAID server is connected through a switch directly to an iMac. The iMac in turn is connected to the internet through a wireless connection. So it could be that the onboard NIC is not working with unRAID? Any users with the same MB having these problems? Regards, Lucas You need to assign an IP address. To do that in the absence of a router, edit the file /boot/config/network.cfg It should look like this sample, but with the appropriate values for your network: # Generated settings: USE_DHCP=no IPADDR=192.168.2.100 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=192.168.2.1 DNS_SERVER1=192.168.2.1 DNS_SERVER2= DNS_SERVER3= If your iMAC will act as a gateway to the web, you can put its IP address as the gateway. Probably do the same for the DNS_SERVER Most important is to set USE_DHCP=no and to assign an IPADDR=something_not_used_on_your_subnet Once you edit the file, you can reboot by typing: reboot The fact that you can see the files at /boot is a very good sign... much better than many newcommers. Since you have no nameserver or router, you will probably need to access the unRAID server by using its IP address. Joe L.
October 9, 200817 yr Actually, the way the setup is described (Mac wireless to Internet, and unRAID connected via ethernet switch to the Mac) the Mac is getting a DHCP addy from the wireless router, but the Mac ethernet card may not.
October 10, 200817 yr Author You need to assign an IP address. To do that in the absence of a router, edit the file /boot/config/network.cfg It should look like this sample, but with the appropriate values for your network: # Generated settings: USE_DHCP=no IPADDR=192.168.2.100 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=192.168.2.1 DNS_SERVER1=192.168.2.1 DNS_SERVER2= DNS_SERVER3= If your iMAC will act as a gateway to the web, you can put its IP address as the gateway. Probably do the same for the DNS_SERVER Most important is to set USE_DHCP=no and to assign an IPADDR=something_not_used_on_your_subnet Once you edit the file, you can reboot by typing: reboot The fact that you can see the files at /boot is a very good sign... much better than many newcommers. Since you have no nameserver or router, you will probably need to access the unRAID server by using its IP address. Joe L. I tried this, but for some reason when I check with ifconfig it still gives me the same values as before?!? (127.0.0.1) Did I do something wrong? Just checked the config.cfg file, and it is exactly the same as yours! Sorry, but I really am a newbie at this Lucas
October 10, 200817 yr You need to assign an IP address. To do that in the absence of a router, edit the file /boot/config/network.cfg It should look like this sample, but with the appropriate values for your network: # Generated settings: USE_DHCP=no IPADDR=192.168.2.100 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=192.168.2.1 DNS_SERVER1=192.168.2.1 DNS_SERVER2= DNS_SERVER3= If your iMAC will act as a gateway to the web, you can put its IP address as the gateway. Probably do the same for the DNS_SERVER Most important is to set USE_DHCP=no and to assign an IPADDR=something_not_used_on_your_subnet Once you edit the file, you can reboot by typing: reboot The fact that you can see the files at /boot is a very good sign... much better than many newcommers. Since you have no nameserver or router, you will probably need to access the unRAID server by using its IP address. Joe L. I tried this, but for some reason when I check with ifconfig it still gives me the same values as before?!? (127.0.0.1) Did I do something wrong? Just checked the config.cfg file, and it is exactly the same as yours! Sorry, but I really am a newbie at this Lucas We can tell you are not experienced. 127.0.0.1 is an alias for your local machine.. it exists on every PC and server in the world. Ignore that set of values from ifconfig. You want to look at the other set. here is what mine looks like: [pre] eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:11:75:FB:7E inet addr:192.168.2.100 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7349038 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3933815 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:1293038101 (1.2 GiB) TX bytes:976199558 (930.9 MiB) lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:109019 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:109019 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:15412819 (14.6 MiB) TX bytes:15412819 (14.6 MiB) [/pre] The two values I highlighted in red should be different on your PC. (You will have a different MAC address, and odds are very high you will have a different IP address) First, after editing the file, did you reboot? The network.cfg file is only read once each time when booting. Second, the file should NOT be identical to mine, unless your subnet is 192.168.2.xxx And the odds are VERY HIGH your subnet does not match mine. Third, did you use an editor that keeps the carriage return/line feeds at the ends of the lines? MACs use carriage-return only, PC's use both cr/lf, and linux usually uses just linefeeds. The file was supplied with CR/LF at the ends of the lines to make it easier on folks with PCs... but that may not help you with a MAC. To assist us to know the correct values for your file, we need to know the "ifconfig" equivalent information on your MAC. In other words, what is its IP address, and what does it use as a NETMASK, and for the SUBNET. What is the IP address of your wireless access point? (another clue that will help us) It will likely be 10.xxx.xxx.xxx or 192.168.xxx.xxx ? Joe L.
October 10, 200817 yr Author We can tell you are not experienced. First, after editing the file, did you reboot? The network.cfg file is only read once each time when booting. Second, the file should NOT be identical to mine, unless your subnet is 192.168.2.xxx And the odds are VERY HIGH your subnet does not match mine. Third, did you use an editor that keeps the carriage return/line feeds at the ends of the lines? MACs use carriage-return only, PC's use both cr/lf, and linux usually uses just linefeeds. The file was supplied with CR/LF at the ends of the lines to make it easier on folks with PCs... but that may not help you with a MAC. To assist us to know the correct values for your file, we need to know the "ifconfig" equivalent information on your MAC. In other words, what is its IP address, and what does it use as a NETMASK, and for the SUBNET. What is the IP address of your wireless access point? (another clue that will help us) It will likely be 10.xxx.xx.xxx or 192.168.xxx.xxx ? Joe L. Sorry, I forgot to mention that I rebooted and that I changed the settings to my network subnet Must have been sleeping or something. This is what I entered in the network.cfg file: # Generated network settings USE_DHCP=no IPADDR=10.0.1.10 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 GATEWAY=10.0.1.1 Here are the network (airport) TCP/IP settings for the iMac: IP: 10.0.1.199 subnet: 255.255.255.0 Router: 10.0.1.1 I am not sure of what to use in the GATEWAY field? For now I just entered the router IP and this might be really WRONG?! There is no 'GATEWAY option' in my preferences for the ethernet on my iMac. Do I need to configure the Ethernet connection on my iMAC: "Manually", "Using DHCP" or "Using DHCP with manual adress" ? (these are the options under ethernet config) Lucas
October 10, 200817 yr Now that you have rebooted, what do you get with: ifconfig Not being a MAC user, does its network port figure out TX vs. RCV, or rather, do you need a crossover cable to connect the two together? You might have transmit >---< transmit receive <----> receive instead of transmit ---> receive receive <--- transmit If the network interfaces in the two devices are not smart enough to figure it out on their own. A crossover cable is needed to connect TX on one end to RX on the other in the absence of a hub or switch or router. Joe L.
October 10, 200817 yr You appear to have two NICS in the Mac wireless NIC and a wired one. unRAID is on the wired one, and the Internet is on the wireless. Unless you set up bridging, you have to set up two subnets and have the Mac route between them.
October 10, 200817 yr Author This is what I found about the use of a crossover cable on the new iMac's: You do not need a crossover cable to connect a PC to an iMac, as the iMac's Ethernet port can handle auto-MDIX (Auto-Medium Dependent Interface Crossover) going to run ifconfig tomorrow, will let you know how that goes. Lucas
October 13, 200817 yr Author I've finally got it working! Just needed to clear my head for a day or 2 i guess What I did was setting up the network settings on the iMac "Manually" and edited the network.cfg file accordingly. Thanks for all the help! Couldn't have done it without the help of this great community. Lucas (now a happy newbie unRAID user!)
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