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Can I get my data back?

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Feeling pretty sick to my stomach right now.  :-[

 

I was attempting to move my photo files and library from the unRAId server back to the internal disk in my photo PC. I wasn't happy with the performance over the network. I planned to put everything back internally and backup to the unRAID server. I use LR and used LR to move the files from one machine to the other so that it would know the location of the files without me having to relocate all 40k of them! Well, LR didn't do a very good job and somehow just over 10,000 of the 40,000 files came up missing. I didn't think it was a huge deal since I had an offsite backup. Well, it turns out my off site backup was incomplete and I am still missing about 4,000 of the images.

 

I am hoping that there is a chance that I can use some form of recovery software on the drives from the unRAID server to see about getting some files back. Not much, if anything, has been written to the server since the move. I have Windows 7 and a USB docking station to attach the drives, but not sure what software might be able to recover the linux based format.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Feeling pretty sick to my stomach right now.  :-[

 

I was attempting to move my photo files and library from the unRAId server back to the internal disk in my photo PC. I wasn't happy with the performance over the network. I planned to put everything back internally and backup to the unRAID server. I use LR and used LR to move the files from one machine to the other so that it would know the location of the files without me having to relocate all 40k of them! Well, LR didn't do a very good job and somehow just over 10,000 of the 40,000 files came up missing. I didn't think it was a huge deal since I had an offsite backup. Well, it turns out my off site backup was incomplete and I am still missing about 4,000 of the images.

 

I am hoping that there is a chance that I can use some form of recovery software on the drives from the unRAID server to see about getting some files back. Not much, if anything, has been written to the server since the move. I have Windows 7 and a USB docking station to attach the drives, but not sure what software might be able to recover the linux based format.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

unRAID uses reiserfs file systems.  Any linux with reiserfs drivers whould be able to mount and read the disks.

(I do not know if the ubuntu release you tried has reiserfs as one of its native file systems)

 

The reiserfs file systems are all on the first partition (and only partition) on each disk, so it should be very straight-forward to mount them and read them.

 

Joe L.

 

 

unRAID uses reiserfs file systems.  Any linux with reiserfs drivers whould be able to mount and read the disks.

(I do not know if the ubuntu release you tried has reiserfs as one of its native file systems)

 

The reiserfs file systems are all on the first partition (and only partition) on each disk, so it should be very straight-forward to mount them and read them.

 

Joe L.

 

 

There is a rfsgui tool for Windows, i used it once to examine a disk i replaced from unRAID to make sure data are still there.

 

http://www.programmersheaven.com/download/38123/Download.aspx

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Feeling pretty sick to my stomach right now.  :-[

 

I was attempting to move my photo files and library from the unRAId server back to the internal disk in my photo PC. I wasn't happy with the performance over the network. I planned to put everything back internally and backup to the unRAID server. I use LR and used LR to move the files from one machine to the other so that it would know the location of the files without me having to relocate all 40k of them! Well, LR didn't do a very good job and somehow just over 10,000 of the 40,000 files came up missing. I didn't think it was a huge deal since I had an offsite backup. Well, it turns out my off site backup was incomplete and I am still missing about 4,000 of the images.

 

I am hoping that there is a chance that I can use some form of recovery software on the drives from the unRAID server to see about getting some files back. Not much, if anything, has been written to the server since the move. I have Windows 7 and a USB docking station to attach the drives, but not sure what software might be able to recover the linux based format.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

unRAID uses reiserfs file systems.  Any linux with reiserfs drivers whould be able to mount and read the disks.

(I do not know if the ubuntu release you tried has reiserfs as one of its native file systems)

 

The reiserfs file systems are all on the first partition (and only partition) on each disk, so it should be very straight-forward to mount them and read them.

 

Joe L.

 

 

Sorry Joe, but perhaps my post was misleading. I only have Windows based PCs and want to be able to use those to see the unRAID drives.

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unRAID uses reiserfs file systems.  Any linux with reiserfs drivers whould be able to mount and read the disks.

(I do not know if the ubuntu release you tried has reiserfs as one of its native file systems)

 

The reiserfs file systems are all on the first partition (and only partition) on each disk, so it should be very straight-forward to mount them and read them.

 

Joe L.

 

 

There is a rfsgui tool for Windows, i used it once to examine a disk i replaced from unRAID to make sure data are still there.

 

http://www.programmersheaven.com/download/38123/Download.aspx

 

Thanks, I'll check that out.

Feeling pretty sick to my stomach right now.  :-[

 

I was attempting to move my photo files and library from the unRAId server back to the internal disk in my photo PC. I wasn't happy with the performance over the network. I planned to put everything back internally and backup to the unRAID server. I use LR and used LR to move the files from one machine to the other so that it would know the location of the files without me having to relocate all 40k of them! Well, LR didn't do a very good job and somehow just over 10,000 of the 40,000 files came up missing. I didn't think it was a huge deal since I had an offsite backup. Well, it turns out my off site backup was incomplete and I am still missing about 4,000 of the images.

 

I am hoping that there is a chance that I can use some form of recovery software on the drives from the unRAID server to see about getting some files back. Not much, if anything, has been written to the server since the move. I have Windows 7 and a USB docking station to attach the drives, but not sure what software might be able to recover the linux based format.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

unRAID uses reiserfs file systems.  Any linux with reiserfs drivers whould be able to mount and read the disks.

(I do not know if the ubuntu release you tried has reiserfs as one of its native file systems)

 

The reiserfs file systems are all on the first partition (and only partition) on each disk, so it should be very straight-forward to mount them and read them.

 

Joe L.

 

 

Sorry Joe, but perhaps my post was misleading. I only have Windows based PCs and want to be able to use those to see the unRAID drives.

You could boot a "free" version of unRAID and only assign those drives (and not the window's own drives) and then share them on the lan.  No need to assign a parity drive.  You can assign one drive, or as many as you like.

When done, unplug the unRAID flash drive and you can boot back into windows.

 

About the only thing you'll need to do is to press F12 (or whatever it takes on your PC to get to a custom boot menu) to select the flash drive to boot from rather than the normal disk in the window's PC.

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Feeling pretty sick to my stomach right now.  :-[

 

I was attempting to move my photo files and library from the unRAId server back to the internal disk in my photo PC. I wasn't happy with the performance over the network. I planned to put everything back internally and backup to the unRAID server. I use LR and used LR to move the files from one machine to the other so that it would know the location of the files without me having to relocate all 40k of them! Well, LR didn't do a very good job and somehow just over 10,000 of the 40,000 files came up missing. I didn't think it was a huge deal since I had an offsite backup. Well, it turns out my off site backup was incomplete and I am still missing about 4,000 of the images.

 

I am hoping that there is a chance that I can use some form of recovery software on the drives from the unRAID server to see about getting some files back. Not much, if anything, has been written to the server since the move. I have Windows 7 and a USB docking station to attach the drives, but not sure what software might be able to recover the linux based format.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

unRAID uses reiserfs file systems.  Any linux with reiserfs drivers whould be able to mount and read the disks.

(I do not know if the ubuntu release you tried has reiserfs as one of its native file systems)

 

The reiserfs file systems are all on the first partition (and only partition) on each disk, so it should be very straight-forward to mount them and read them.

 

Joe L.

 

 

Sorry Joe, but perhaps my post was misleading. I only have Windows based PCs and want to be able to use those to see the unRAID drives.

You could boot a "free" version of unRAID and only assign those drives (and not the window's own drives) and then share them on the lan.  No need to assign a parity drive.   You can assign one drive, or as many as you like.

When done, unplug the unRAID flash drive and you can boot back into windows.

 

About the only thing you'll need to do is to press F12 (or whatever it takes on your PC to get to a custom boot menu) to select the flash drive to boot from rather than the normal disk in the window's PC.

 

Joe, sorry, but I'm not following you here.

 

The data that I am trying to recover was on the unRAID server. The data was moved to my Windows 7 PC (not the physical drives), but some of it got lost during the move. So I need to take the data drives from the unRAID server and try to run some sort of recovery software from the Windows 7 PC.

The data that I am trying to recover was on the unRAID server. The data was moved to my Windows 7 PC (not the physical drives), but some of it got lost during the move. So I need to take the data drives from the unRAID server and try to run some sort of recovery software from the Windows 7 PC.

Have you still got the drives that were in the unRAID server?

Have they been written to since you moved the files to your windows PC?

I'm assuming you "moved" the files to the windows PC and not copied, so they were deleted from the unRAID disks.  Is this true?

Have you written to those unRAID disks since you "moved" the files to the window's PC?

 

The answers to those questions will provide clues on how to proceed.  There is a method to scan the entire file-system of an unRAID disk to recover deleted files.  For many users it has recovered the files they thought they had deleted.  It might work in your situation.

It will require you to boot a copy of unRAID to run the commands on the data disks.  You do NOT want to assign the disks to the array, just run the command line commands to rebuild the file-tree and to scan the entire disk looking for deleted files  (files that are moved to another PC are actually first copied to the other PC and then "deleted" on the unRAID server, so , in effect, they are deleted files)

 

Joe L.

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The data that I am trying to recover was on the unRAID server. The data was moved to my Windows 7 PC (not the physical drives), but some of it got lost during the move. So I need to take the data drives from the unRAID server and try to run some sort of recovery software from the Windows 7 PC.

Have you still got the drives that were in the unRAID server?

Have they been written to since you moved the files to your windows PC?

I'm assuming you "moved" the files to the windows PC and not copied, so they were deleted from the unRAID disks.  Is this true?

Have you written to those unRAID disks since you "moved" the files to the window's PC?

 

The answers to those questions will provide clues on how to proceed.  There is a method to scan the entire file-system of an unRAID disk to recover deleted files.  For many users it has recovered the files they thought they had deleted.  It might work in your situation.

It will require you to boot a copy of unRAID to run the commands on the data disks.  You do NOT want to assign the disks to the array, just run the command line commands to rebuild the file-tree and to scan the entire disk looking for deleted files  (files that are moved to another PC are actually first copied to the other PC and then "deleted" on the unRAID server, so , in effect, they are deleted files)

 

Joe L.

 

I still have the drives in the array. I shut down the server last night, but I have not taken the drives out or anything just yet.

I believe some data has been written since the files were moved, but not much.

Yes I moved them instead of copying them. I won't make that mistake again! I assumed my backups were intact and that was not the right thing to do!

 

What you describe sounds like what I need! It might not get me everything, but I'll take what I can get, if anything.

 

Thanks for your help Joe!

The data that I am trying to recover was on the unRAID server. The data was moved to my Windows 7 PC (not the physical drives), but some of it got lost during the move. So I need to take the data drives from the unRAID server and try to run some sort of recovery software from the Windows 7 PC.

Have you still got the drives that were in the unRAID server?

Have they been written to since you moved the files to your windows PC?

I'm assuming you "moved" the files to the windows PC and not copied, so they were deleted from the unRAID disks.  Is this true?

Have you written to those unRAID disks since you "moved" the files to the window's PC?

 

The answers to those questions will provide clues on how to proceed.  There is a method to scan the entire file-system of an unRAID disk to recover deleted files.  For many users it has recovered the files they thought they had deleted.  It might work in your situation.

It will require you to boot a copy of unRAID to run the commands on the data disks.  You do NOT want to assign the disks to the array, just run the command line commands to rebuild the file-tree and to scan the entire disk looking for deleted files  (files that are moved to another PC are actually first copied to the other PC and then "deleted" on the unRAID server, so , in effect, they are deleted files)

 

Joe L.

 

I still have the drives in the array. I shut down the server last night, but I have not taken the drives out or anything just yet.

I believe some data has been written since the files were moved, but not much.

Yes I moved them instead of copying them. I won't make that mistake again! I assumed my backups were intact and that was not the right thing to do!

 

What you describe sounds like what I need! It might not get me everything, but I'll take what I can get, if anything.

 

Thanks for your help Joe!

See this post: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=5087.msg47070#msg47070

for the basic instructions.

 

Thanks Joe, I'll see what I can come up with. I am a beginner in every way when it comes to linux so fingers crossed I don't screw something up even more! ;)

Just so you know.  The process will take many hours for a 2TB drive.  (8 or 10 or more... reason is easy, it takes 6 hours or so just to read the drive, without even analyzing the contents.) 

Do not expect to start it and then disconnect the telnet session.  Best to do it from the system console where you will not get logged out.

 

Joe L.

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Thanks Joe, I'll see what I can come up with. I am a beginner in every way when it comes to linux so fingers crossed I don't screw something up even more! ;)

Just so you know.  The process will take many hours for a 2TB drive.  (8 or 10 or more... reason is easy, it takes 6 hours or so just to read the drive, without even analyzing the contents.) 

Do not expect to start it and then disconnect the telnet session.  Best to do it from the system console where you will not get logged out.

 

Joe L.

 

I don't even have Telnet setup  :-[ so the console is my only option anyway.

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OK, trying to do this now. When I run:

 

reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -S /dev/md1

 

I get a "-bash: reiserfsck--rebuild-tree-S: command not found" error.

OK, trying to do this now. When I run:

 

reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -S /dev/md1

 

I get a "-bash: reiserfsck--rebuild-tree-S: command not found" error.

 

The error indicates there are spaces missing in the command that was entered.

There should be a space before "--rebuild-tree" and another space before "-S".

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OK, trying to do this now. When I run:

 

reiserfsck --rebuild-tree -S /dev/md1

 

I get a "-bash: reiserfsck--rebuild-tree-S: command not found" error.

 

The error indicates there are spaces missing in the command that was entered.

There should be a space before "--rebuild-tree" and another space before "-S".

 

I just noticed that! Thanks!

FWIW, I discovered a bug in Win7's "move" feature the hard way.  The copy portion didn't complete successfully but the 25 gig source file was deleted anyway and the reiserfsck process recovered just about everything that had ever been on that drive except the file I wanted.  :P  You'd think after 25 years as a computer geek, I would have learned that the rule is Always Copy, Never Move.  Ever.  But I have to learn it over and over.

FWIW, I discovered a bug in Win7's "move" feature the hard way.  The copy portion didn't complete successfully but the 25 gig source file was deleted anyway and the reiserfsck process recovered just about everything that had ever been on that drive except the file I wanted.  :P  You'd think after 25 years as a computer geek, I would have learned that the rule is Always Copy, Never Move.  Ever.  But I have to learn it over and over.

 

Use TeraCopy.  Is is a free replacement to Window's file transfer.  It has built in CRC checks, and if they don't match up, the source file won't be deleted.  You should never have this problem again.

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FWIW, I discovered a bug in Win7's "move" feature the hard way.  The copy portion didn't complete successfully but the 25 gig source file was deleted anyway and the reiserfsck process recovered just about everything that had ever been on that drive except the file I wanted.  :P  You'd think after 25 years as a computer geek, I would have learned that the rule is Always Copy, Never Move.  Ever.  But I have to learn it over and over.

 

Use TeraCopy.  Is is a free replacement to Window's file transfer.  It has built in CRC checks, and if they don't match up, the source file won't be deleted.  You should never have this problem again.

 

Thanks, I'll check that out!

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thanks for everyone's help but it doesn't appear to have worked. :(

 

Ran it on both disks, but it came back with the same files for both and neither was something I was looking for.

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UPDATE: There was more to be found than originally thought!!!

 

After running the rebuild earlier I thought I came up empty. the lost+found folders for each disk were identical and contained only part of an old bluray rip. But later I found that my server was acting funny. I stopped the array and started it back up. The lost+found folder is FULL of all sorts of stuff so I may be able to get some things back after all.

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