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Hello
Having a bit of an issue and reall stuck now..
I'm on 6.11.0.
I had the Basic version of Unraid and was running:
2x Parity
3x storage
USB for key
Cache drive
I then added a new drive with Unassigned Devices.
Everything was ok until i had to move my server and shutdown, when starting back up i got the message that i had too many drives. Being a cheapskate as funds were tight at the time (3 - 4 months ago) i recall going in and just removing the cache drive - just in the Unraid OS, not physically.
I've now upgraded to the Plus version, and gone to re-add the cache drive back, but it's not being picked up in the Unraid OS - it doesn't show up anywhere i can see as an unassigned device or anything.
I can't seem to find any setting or way to "re-scan" drives to look for it - it's a 1gb Kingston SSD so i know it's not being picked up as i can tell from the other drive sizes and because everything else is showing up OK and accounted for.
Does anyone know what i need to do here?
Do i need to shutdown, unplug drive, start up, then shutdown again, plug back in to get it to register again? (thought i'd ask for help first before climbing into the loft where the server is!!!)
I've lost Docker and my VMs too ("service failed to start" error) so i must have had them stored on Cache drive. A bit stuck so any advice is welcome!!!
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3 hours ago, jonathanm said:
Which will change airflow and add heat. You may need to do a full evaluation on how air is moving inside your case since you seem to be on the ragged edge of stability.
Remember, air will flow the easiest path, it doesn't go places unless forced. I know you said you have 5 case fans, but if you don't have them pointed optimally you may end up with one fan just cancelling out the work another is doing. You also may need ducting inside the case or a fan dedicated to blowing across the cards and board I/O chips.
Yeah i will, main issue is the 2x front fans are partially blocked by the drive cages due to lay out of the case - always been that way (new drive is at the very top so not impacting air flow by adding).
I had 2x top of case fans on exhaust, so i've swapped one around to intake, so i have 3x intake (2x front and top in middle) and 2x exhaust (rear and top at back of case).
Got RAM and GPU (Nvidia P400) installed and working, will see how things go.
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Swapped PCIE slots and it still works, so not power related.
It was either the Gen 1,2,3 not being set right so the riser and card wouldn't work, or having boot allowed to pick between UEFI and Legacy that was the issue.
Thank you for supporting this plugin and for your help on here, not just to me but through all the other posts i read through last night trying to troubleshoot
Now, to Spaceinvaderone youtube to finish my setup !!!
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Finally!
Guess it was either:
PCIE slot 1 and 2 not providing enough power
Legacy or UEFI boot option
The auto setting for PCI Gen 1,2,3 causing the riser to not be recognised (i had that with my main desktop build.)
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OK!!!
So i put the riser cable into the one PCIE slot i had not tried yet, as it held my 2 port SATA card, and moved that away.
I went into BIOS and changed "Legacy or UEFI" to just "Legacy" in the boot options, and turned the Auto PCIE speed selection to 2nd Gen. I also set to prefer Offboard GPU
Dug out a mini display port to HDMI adapter and boom - logged into WebGUI direct from new Server GPU.
Seeing if i can sort this Nvidia driver out now...
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5 hours ago, ich777 said:
Have you tried the card already in another system if it actually works (keep in mind you have to install the driver and put some 3D load on it to check if it works properly, the basic display output does work most of the time even if the card is broken).
Do you boot with UEFI or Legacy into Unraid? If you boot with UEFI try to Boot with Legacy Mode (CSM)
I have just now - plugged it using the riser cable into my modern desktop, installed drivers and it was recognised fine. I ran part of a TimeSpy test and it worked fine on that, although the FPS was poor, as expected on such a tough test. Also played Doom and Arkham City on Steam and they worked.
I boot in Legacy according to UnRaid flash info.
So i'm sure the card works as it should, as does the cable
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3 hours ago, ich777 said:
Please post your Diagnostics (Tools -> Diagnostics -> Download -> drop the downloaded zip file here in the text box).
In which hardware do you run the card? Is it possoble that the PCIe slot delivers too less power (had this on a few Dell servers).
Also something from the log seems to be cut off.
Here you go. Log was probably just my copy and paste error.
Hardware:
Supermicro - X9SCM (Rev 1.11A)
Intel® Xeon® CPU E3-1220 V2 @ 3.10GHz
16gb RAM
Nvidia Quadro P400 v2
4x 4tb WD RED
1x 3tb WD RED
1x 250g SSD Cache
2 port SATA III card (SSD attached to it)
550w PSUMy motherboard doesn't have PCIE 16x sized sockets so i picked up an ADT 8x to 16x riser cable (currently fitted) and a Dell riser card (this won't work, by GPU would lay horizontal and there isn't quite enough room with my SATA card in too..so no go).
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Hello - i hope someone can help. I've installed an Nvidia Quadro P400v2 GPU into my box (UnRaid 6.9.2) and it's found by the System (along with onboard Matrox graphics):
Quote[10de:1cb3]02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL [Quadro P400] (rev a1)
[10de:0fb9]02:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[102b:0532]05:03.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200eW WPCM450 (rev 0a)
When i try and install the latest Nvidia GPU (i downloaded it, then turned Docker off then on as per instructions) i get this message:
QuoteNVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.
Console log has this error:
QuoteJun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: nvidia-nvlink: Nvlink Core is being initialized, major device number 246
Jun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: NVRM: request_mem_region failed for 0M @ 0x0. This can
Jun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: NVRM: occur when a driver such as rivatv is loaded and claims
Jun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: NVRM: ownership of the device's registers.
Jun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: nvidia: probe of 0000:02:00.0 failed with error -1
Jun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine failed for 1 device(s).
Jun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: NVRM: None of the NVIDIA devices were initialized.
Jun 7 22:01:23 Tower kernel: nvidia-nvlink: Unregistered the Nvlink Core, major device number 246I am using a riser cable as i needed to convert PCIEx8 slot into a PCIEx16 size slot. I also have option of using a Dell riser card.
Are there any other steps i need to take (in my BIOS for example) to get this working? The card is recognised and works so i can't see why the driver can't see it?
Thanks for any advice!
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12 hours ago, jonathanm said:
It's not the CPU that's under stress, it's the I/O chips on the motherboard and any hard drive controller cards. Having the case open is a bad thing, it means the fans aren't forcing air through the case, and stagnant pools of hot air can develop. If you must leave the case open, try using a desk fan or something to force air over all the internals.
so...completed Parity check fine.
I suspect it was due to the sides being off and poor air circulation, the stress of the Parity check was causing something to overheat and crash things - as you noted.
I will monitor but touch wood, it's running fine now (sides back on). All temps look good, no error codes in the log.
Next up is adding ram and GPU, will do that at the weekend, then put case straight back together after.
Thanks for your advice.
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Have put sides back on and put it back to normal, see if it helps.
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Have done a Fix Common Problems scan and corrected a couple of findings with settings (although some of them i know have been set that way since day one without issue). Parity currently at 14% check at 1hr 1m elapsed, so has gotten further than last time....
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13 minutes ago, jonathanm said:
Parity check puts a constant load on disk controllers and power supplies.
Do you have constant airflow over the motherboard and disk controllers?
Yeah - when i watched the stats the CPU never went over 20% usage, and temp around 37 was the max i saw - case itself is currently open while i mess with the drives (also adding more ram and a GPU when they arrive in a couple of days). Have 5x case fans plus CPU cool (all be quiet ones), in a be quiet 600 tower case. Drives all 31 - 33 degrees at the moment.
Would it be worth swapping the SATA cable to another port?
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On 6/5/2021 at 1:11 AM, jonathanm said:
Now you should do a parity check to ensure everything can be read accurately.
Scheduled Parity check kicked off at 1am, last log entry is:
Jun 7 01:00:01 Tower kernel: mdcmd (61): check
Jun 7 01:00:01 Tower kernel: md: recovery thread: check P Q ...
Jun 7 01:00:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg
Jun 7 01:00:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd
Jun 7 01:00:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sde
Jun 7 01:00:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdb
Jun 7 01:00:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdcI looked in on it just now (01:55am) and it the server had crashed - still powered on, but no console\ WebGUI or access to the shares.
Really, really baffled with this - mechanically everything checks out, and the parity builds fine.
Why would the check just cause a crash after starting?
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So....the saga ends!
In the end I have removed the Parity Tuning Plugin, pre-cleared, formatted and added the drive into the array as storage, ran in depth SMART test and Diskspeed tests - all passed OK, no issues. Confident disk is fine, mechanically.
So I then went through the 'Shrink Array' process to remove it from the array, and then for the New Config I added the original Parity + the new 2nd Parity at the same time, then let it do the Parity build.
I had the WEBGui open on my 2nd screen at while at work today and throughout the whole process to see if i could spot any issues - none, and 9hrs 46m (avg 113.8mb/s speed) later it completed and both drives are now set as Parity 1 and Parity 2, like i wanted.
Very, very strange why it took a roundabout way and failed twice to start with, but, touch wood, it's done and working!!!
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So the troubled drive pre-cleared fine with no errors!
Jun 4 13:08:10 Tower kernel: md: sync done. time=24636sec
Jun 4 13:08:10 Tower kernel: md: recovery thread: exit status: 0Really stumped now, i don't want to keep trying to add the 2nd Parity and getting a crash, in case something worse happens....
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Extended SMART test results attached...says completed without error? Admittedly i don't really understand what everything means, so any advice appreciated.
I decided to pre-clear anyway - by the time i finish work later it will be finished and i can see if that shows any issues.
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7 minutes ago, jonathanm said:
Ahh. That's not what I read.
Unclear, I assumed kill meant dead.
So was that enabled during an event? I'm guessing not, or you would have already posted those results.
Have updated OP to be clearer
Smart Test will run into the night, will report back in morning...
Logs - first fail, none.
2nd fail the final entry was something about fan temp, then the next entry was when it started up again after i powered it off and back on - gap of 5 hrs in which time it crashed, but left no log except:
Jun 3 15:06:28 Tower autofan: Highest disk temp is 37C, adjusting fan speed from: 25 (9% @ 499rpm) to: 50 (19% @ 500rpm)
Jun 3 15:11:34 Tower autofan: Highest disk temp is 36C, adjusting fan speed from: 50 (19% @ 499rpm) to: 25 (9% @ 499rpm)
Jun 3 20:31:43 Tower kernel: microcode: microcode updated early to revision 0x21, date = 2019-02-13
Jun 3 20:31:43 Tower kernel: Linux version 5.10.28-Unraid (root@Develop) (gcc (GCC) 9.3.0, GNU ld version 2.33.1-slack15) #1 SMP Wed Apr 7 08:23:18 PDT 2021
Jun 3 20:31:43 Tower kernel: Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/bzimage initrd=/bz -
51 minutes ago, jonathanm said:
No, just run an extended smart test, after that completes download the diagnostics zip and attach it to your next post in this thread.
Marginal power supply? Any time the server crashes to a completely power off condition points to power issues somewhere, board or psu.
Will do....running now.
PSU is a 550W Silverstone powering:
Xeon CPU
8gb ram
5x HDs
1x Cache SSD
5 case fans
Cable wise, the 2nd Parity has taken the power connection that i used to have an unassigned device HD on for internal backup, and that worked flawlessly (server is about a year and half old and was up 24/7 no issues until 5 days ago when i needed more storage).
The server wasn't powered off when it crashed - the case fans and disks were whirring away and the lights were on, but i couldn't 'find' the server via the WebGUI on my PC (tried doing all the DNS resets etc) and when i plugged my monitor in direct, there was no console from the server on it.
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Hi all
Having a weird problem adding a 2nd parity drive to my UnRaid server, version 6.9.2.
Steps:
- Took 2x identical 4gb drives from my old Synology NAS, both healthy with no issues ever
- Inserted one, pre-cleared (Healthy, 0 errors) now using as a data drive - OK
- Inserted second, set to a 2nd Parity Drive - first try it crashed at some point (it was overnight and my web GUI was closed, syslog saving to cache wasn't set).
2nd try, i saw it hit just over 70% and then something crashed the server - i left the WebGUI open and when i refreshed it, it became apparent something had gone wrong as it couldn't see the server. Before it refreshed it was showing 70% complete.
When i start the array again, the parity check starts over.
Now, the first time, i have no logs. The 2nd time, the last log entry is this (i only read the forum and turned the 'mirror to cache' option for syslog around 12pm, before testing my ext CD rom would work). Parity rebuild was kicked off at about 11am:
Jun 3 12:11:10 Tower kernel: usb-storage 1-1.5:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
Jun 3 12:11:10 Tower kernel: scsi host9: usb-storage 1-1.5:1.0
Jun 3 12:11:11 Tower kernel: scsi 9:0:0:0: CD-ROM ASUS SBW-06D5H-U E101 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
Jun 3 12:11:11 Tower kernel: sr 9:0:0:0: [sr0] scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Jun 3 12:11:11 Tower kernel: sr 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
Jun 3 12:11:11 Tower kernel: sr 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg7 type 5
Jun 3 12:15:58 Tower autofan: Highest disk temp is 37C, adjusting fan speed from: 25 (9% @ 499rpm) to: 50 (19% @ 498rpm)
Jun 3 15:01:23 Tower autofan: Highest disk temp is 36C, adjusting fan speed from: 50 (19% @ 498rpm) to: 25 (9% @ 498rpm)
Jun 3 15:06:28 Tower autofan: Highest disk temp is 37C, adjusting fan speed from: 25 (9% @ 499rpm) to: 50 (19% @ 500rpm)
Jun 3 15:11:34 Tower autofan: Highest disk temp is 36C, adjusting fan speed from: 50 (19% @ 499rpm) to: 25 (9% @ 499rpm)
Jun 3 20:31:43 Tower kernel: microcode: microcode updated early to revision 0x21, date = 2019-02-13
Jun 3 20:31:43 Tower kernel: Linux version 5.10.28-Unraid (root@Develop) (gcc (GCC) 9.3.0, GNU ld version 2.33.1-slack15) #1 SMP Wed Apr 7 08:23:18 PDT 2021
Jun 3 20:31:43 Tower kernel: Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/bzimage initrd=/bzrootI did a visual check at 4pm before going out, all was still ticking away nicely - so something happened between 4pm and 8:30pm when i got home, but had no logs for it?!
Couple of questions i guess:
- should i pre-clear then add as data drive to check it passes, before trying to set as parity again?
- can anyone think why a parity build for a 2nd drive would crash the server (leaving it powered up but not accessible via WebGUI on a PC or via the console directly from the box) and leave no log trace?
Thanks for help and words of wisdom
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Hello
First server build seems ok, been up for just over 4 days without issue. However, i noticed just now that one of my CPU cores is 100% usage...i found this on the top.txt log:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
32056 root 20 0 52652 15360 12220 R 100.0 0.2 5855:07 smbdI have my shares mapped in Windows 10 while i copy files over to them from my other NAS...i'm a total noob but is smbd something to with this? Any ideas why it's 100% on just the one core? Even when i disconnect the shares in WIn 10 it stays the same.
I have a Plex docker and Win 7 VM - both stopped at the moment.
EDIT - reboot of server fixed issue.. but any ideas on why it happened?
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It's alive!
Under my table in my front room for now..will probably relocate once i'm happy everything working out.
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So...tape idea is out the way and forgotten.
2 of my WD REDs (bought from different stores and are from different batches) passed the long Data Lifeguard check...but my Segate Pipeline failed it and I got the warranty message in SeaTools on it too, so it has gone back as faulty for a refund. Which is annoying...and given i have 2x same drives in my Naim and have an external Seagate with 21k hours on it, a little disappointing.
SO i got another WD RED from another store, and currenly doing the Data Lifeguard test on that.
I also used the PAY20 UK ebay deal (expires today) to grab an external WD Elements 8gb drive for a good price from a reputable dealer (i have one with 22k hours on it already...which i guess is time since my old PC died and was replaced) so that should take care of initial backup duties.
Hardware is testing and has been running sat in the BIOS screen for 72hrs all assembled. everything at 27 - 31c temp stable, fans just under 500rpm and nice and quiet (PSU fan in ECO mode, so has been off).
Annoyingly the backplate for my mobo has been lost by UPS...so i'll need to try and sort that and then finish putting everything inside the case later
Looks like another couple of days before I start configuring unRaid, still just reading through here
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On 2/25/2020 at 12:20 AM, sota said:
Man it seems like people are starting to think about this like I did.
I'll do my "boilerplate" answer to start with: see my sig.
Thanks - interesting idea...I guess i could get an external hot swappable 3.5" bay, so i can swap in and out via the front once it's all setup?
So far i think the tape idea is maybe not workable. I've never used a server, unRaid array or VM before and have 0 knowledge, so please correct any noob mistakes here...but from what i can gather:
- you can't load hardware drivers into a VM. Therefore LTFS won't work for LTO5, and i don't know if a normal LTO4 driver would either
- you need special software for LTO4 - which costs £££ and some of them you need the pro\enterprise version to use with tape, so it's more ££. Zbackup suggests that it works, but then...how do i get it going and seeing everything?
- I can't control the tape drive via my Surface or laptop, as i don't think i can SAS > USB 3.0
- the machines get hot when writing to disks
- you can't dual boot WIndows and unRaid, as if one is running the other isn't
- Getting a cheap ex enterprise server, with a tape drive, means adding another failure point, plus possible config issues to see the unRaid share over my network, other expenses for WIndows Server, backup software, a SAS controller etc...
-...and another box in the house that needs a monitor available. My router is behind my TV, so no easy way to connect and hide another device...
Search continues...
Build started!
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Hi everyone
I've been furiously reading the wiki and forums over the past week, and wanted to ask some fairly specific questions about a new build. Overview below...questions at the end!
Situation & Current Stuff
My current storage is full...so it's either by another off the shelf NAS, or some external USB drives...or build an expandable system! I've actually lost my data 3 times over the years (once after a faulty SATA \ Molex adapter shorted and the small fire took out my SSD and both data drive PCBs..killing them!)...and i'm now at a stage where i need both storage and some security. Current hardware as follows:
Laptop with SSD + 2tb data drive
4tb RAID 1 Synology NAS (full)
2tb RAID 1 Naim NS01 music streamer\server (space for the foreesable)
2tb USB Drive (nearly full - 3+ years old)
2tb USB Drive (some space free 2-3 years old)
Purpose & Wants
- Media server for my home, to feed upstairs (laptop to TV) \ downstairs (Surface Pro to TV) \ bedroom (Surface Pro) as needed (just a single user)
- Files: FLAC music, HD video (possibly 4k).
- I just use WinAMP and SMPlayer at the moment, but considering something a bit flashier for the videos maybe? If it's easy enough to setup!
- Some minor doc & photo storage (couble of gb max)
- Easily expandable storage
- Some safety\redunancy
- Backup functionality
- Quiet (likely will be hidden in lounge or my study)
Server hardware
I've been following the serverbuilds NAS Killer 2019 and built:
- SUPERMICRO X9SCL REV 1.11A SOCKET LGA 1155/H2DDR3 DESKTOP MOTHERBOARD
- Onboard Matrox G200 gpu
- INTEL XEON E3-1220 V2 SR0PH 3.1GHZ 8M LGA1155 CPU
- be quiet ! cooler...it's a huge one from a previous gaming PC that cooled my i5-2500k at 4.2(ish)ghz overclocked
- Samsung DDR3 PC3-12800E 1600Mhz ECC Unbuffered 8gb RAM
- be quiet! Pure 600 case with 2x 120mm and 3x 140mm Shadow WIings 2 PWM fans (maxed case out)
- EVGA 550w B3 PSU 80+ Bronze Fully Modular Power Supply
- Syba SY-PEX40039 2 Port SATA card
- 120 Kingston SSD (for cache OR another OS OR a VM)
- 2x 4tb WD RED HDD
- 1x 2tb Seagate Pipeline HDD (same as NAIM put int their NAS streamer, which work well for music)
- I have 6x onboard SATA and the add on card gives me another 2 (4 used so far)
It's all setup - very quiet and system is 26c temp with fans working about 450 - 498 rpm - not put the 3x HDDS in yet as been running the WD Lifeguard Tests.
Is there anything i'm missing here?
Plan
1. Use 1x 4tb HDD as a parity drive for unRaid
2. Copy my 4tb Synology NAS data over to other 4tb WD RED
3. Fill Synology up with my USB drive stuff
4. Finish ripping my CDs to my NAIM NS01 - then make a copy in unRAID on the 2tb unRaid drive
5. Come bonus time at work, drop in another 4tb HDD to the unRaid array
6. FInd a way to backup my data. By that i mean, dump it all to something which is as safe as i can get it, then move stuff over every month \ week as my data expands.
Questions!!!
Backup Plan 1 - Tape:I'm seriously considering grabbing a LTO 4 (or maybe LTO 5) off ebay, and using that to make a backup of my unRaid data. Basically jiust fill the tapes, then lock box them at my parents house.This would cost me:£100-£150 for a good LTO 4 drive OR £200 - £220 for a good LTO 5 drive£25 - £50 for a HBA card to control either£10 - £15 per tape (4x LTO 5 would do, or 7 LTO 4).I think I'd want it in the server box, so i have an 'all in one' box to save on space and for ease...but it would eat drive bays. So i guess an external version is ok too..i'd then need a SAS controller with an external port.1. Can i work this from unRaid? Are there any guides? Would i dual boot with Windows or another OS for the tape backup side ?2. What SAS card would be recommended as the controller for the LTO drive? I'm consfused on that side...3. With LTO 4 i believe i will need a Tape Backup software, so that seems like another complexity - but LTO 5 has LTFS which apprently just appears as a drive in Windows \ Linux so is easier just to drag and drop onto. But i still don't get how i would work that using unRaid4. What would a cheap and efficient gpu recommendation be? Something like a passive cooled GT710 or GT730? Or even earlier?(i have an old 6800Ultra and 580GTX but they are the overclocked ones with 2x fans on them and would be overkill and probably not fit my casse)Backup Plan 1 - External USB
I could just buy a big USB drive (or two) or use my 3.5" USB 3.0 SATA caddy to drop a big drive into...but i know that's not long term really, and has it's own limitations. i'd be looking at £140 + for an 8 TB WD USB drive...and i've had two of those fail on me before now too!
Q: What do people think?
Backup Plan 3 - Another server
I've seen a few DELL and Fujitsu servers on ebay for like £120. That plus a couple of big HDDs would push me close to the cost for tape...but it's another server to look after and more drives to go bad. And i'm not sure how much life these cheap ex-enterprise ones will still have?
Q: What do people think?
Backup Plan 4 - CloudI could make use but my upload speed isnt that good (i'm in UK too) and i'm not sure i trust the service completely, and with at least 5 - 6TB of definite MUST KEEP data already, it's going to be a looooong time to upload, and possibly expensive!-------------------
Thank you for reading and for any help and suggestions.
I'm really kind of stuck now...i know what i want to do, just not if it's achievable or what the last couple of bits needed are!
Cache Drive disappeared
in General Support
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Ok so i was being silly and a shutdown solved it - i had just rebooted which didn't work.
I'd forgotten the 1st rule of tech support: Turn it OFF, then turn it back ON.
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