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I just updated my hardware a month ago from an Intel E6600 with 2 Gb ram (DDR2 baby!). 😎 Ran fine for a decade with unraid, but I just used it as a NAS. Cache_dirs was literally the only program I ran (well, and pre_clear). Now I'm with the cool kids like you with 32 Gig.
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Can't speak to the X570 taichi, but I just recently upgraded to a used X370 taichi and it's been great. stable, overclocked the memory just fine, 10 sata ports (none of which get deactivated when using either of the M2 slots). Only thing I can't attest to is passthrough, as I'm not running any VM's yet, but i've read others saying it wasn't an issue. I couldn't justify the new price tag for an X570 version when I came across the $85 used x370. Pcie 4.0 and 2 less SATA ports for $200 extra.
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Looking for some help with the Autofan plugin. My autofan setup is finally working for the most part and it's no longer shutting off my CPU fan (really problematic, especially since I use a small cooler). Anyways, I have "25" entered in for the "Minimum PWM value", and I'm assuming that means, if the temperatures are all below the low threshold, the fan will spin at it's given rate for a PWM input of 25%. That doesn't seem to be working as my Low and High hard drive temp thresholds are 30 C and 45 C respectively, but as soon as my temps get into the 20's, my fans shut off. I'd like to keep my fans running at some minimum to help cool things other than the hard drives (CPU, LSI controller, GPU, MB, etc).
Unrelated, It would be nice to have a little guidance on how to set this up as it isn't intuitive, IMO. There is no "help" if you click the "?" in unraid. It took me quite a while to figure out that the "PWM fan" field isn't unique between PWM controllers. I kept hitting DETECT for each PWM controller (I have 5), and some would come up with one of three /long_path/fan0_input, fan1_input, or fan2_input (ie, 3 fan inputs over 5 PWM controllers, thus some had to be repeated). Also, my biggest issue is after hitting apply, it keeps going back to "PWM1." That's annoying when you are playing around with the settings, you inevitably end up making changes to 1 when you are meaning to make a change to one of the others past 1, and then wonder why the change didn't do what you thought it would.
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13 hours ago, agger said:
Just started a preclear on 2 usb easystores. Its been 2 hours and both say 'starting...' Is this normal?
Doesn't sound like it. Just started 3 preclears (internal drives) and they went from starting to the first step in a few seconds which has always been the case. Haven't ever done any externals.
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I built my unraid server somewhere around 2008. I got some old hardware (circa 2006) off craigslist for crazy cheap and I still run that hardware today for exactly what you are saying you want to do...a big array of discs (17 in my server). Core 2 Duo with a whopping 2 GB of RAM (now considered bare minimum). Only thing I spent real money on other than drives was the case (to hold tons of drives) and the power supply. If you aren't planning on running dockers and VMs and such any time soon, i'd save on the guts, only making sure you can support a lot of SATA ports. If you decide in a few years you want to run more, upgrade the hardware then. You'll have faster and/or cheaper hardware at that point than if you buy good stuff now only to really put it to use years down the road. I'm looking at finally updating my hardware to add specific capability. Glad I didn't invest $$$ in 2008 to just do home file storage/serving for over a decade.
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I have two on my AOC-SASLP-MV8 (notice the missing "2" in SASLP) and they work just fine. Can't comment on the "2", but I would certainly imagine the newer version handles it at least as well as the older version.
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I avoided newegg as their drive shipping has been unimpressive in terms of packing (and I have prime). My drives from Amazon were well packed. Obviously neither was doa.
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Two weeks ago, my case was full (drives, all 2 TB and under). Finally replaced the parity and one of my 1 TB's data drives with SMR 8 TB archive drives. On parity rebuild, once I got past 2 TB, speed was not an issue (the first 1 TB was obviously very slow). Rebuild time was in the 20 hour range. I read the entire thread on those drives before my purchase and didn't have any performance concerns after that. I'm happy with my decision. We'll see how they do long term, that's my only concern.
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Yeah, looking at an esata dock. My mb's esata port likely won't support >2 tb, so I'll need to get a cheap esata pcie card. Any I should avoid or lean towards?
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im fine with it running slower. i don't really have any other hardware to run it on (all laptops that I can't tie up preclearing).
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Quick, probably simple question. My unraid server has no more free ports or bays, and I am going to start the process of replacing the original small drives (1 TB) with some larger ones. I'd like to preclear my replacement parity drive and data drive before I put them in as replacements. My desktop is an old Ubuntu box (running 12.04). Motherboard won't support > 2 TB. Looking at installing a 2 port PCI sata card that will support the bigger disks. Can I run the preclear script on an Ubuntu box (ie, not a machine running unraid)?
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Hey all,
I searched and couldn't find an answer, though I'm sure it's been covered. WD replaced a failed 2 TB drive with a 2.5 TB drive. I'm still on unraid 4.7 (ie, no support for drives bigger than > 2TB). While I'm fine moving to 5.x, I don't want to make this my parity drive as I'm sure it's refurbished (it replaces a previous replacement drive, so I personally believe it is more likely to fail). Is this something I can do in preclear or do I have to do this beforehand and then preclear it?
thanks for any help (and sorry that it's likely been gone over, I promise I searched).
Calvin
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I as out of town on vacation for 0 days and started a parity check when I left since they take forever. When I got home, the system told me zero parity errors (yay), but no my disk 9 of 12 is coming up red. I shutdown the server, checked the wiring and everything seems fine there.
Did a smart test (before and after reboot)
smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sdc smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0 Serial Number: WD-WMAZA3886684 Firmware Version: 51.0AB51 User Capacity: 2,000,398,934,016 bytes Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: 8 ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated Local Time is: Sun Aug 12 19:57:33 2012 Local time zone must be set--see zic m SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x85) Offline data collection activity was aborted by an interrupting command from host. Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 121) The previous self-test completed having the read element of the test failed. Total time to complete Offline data collection: (37980) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 255) minutes. Conveyance self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes. SCT capabilities: (0x3035) SCT Status supported. SCT Feature Control supported. SCT Data Table supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 184 163 021 Pre-fail Always - 5766 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 866 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 084 084 000 Old_age Always - 12311 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 24 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 12 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 199 199 000 Old_age Always - 3795 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 122 105 000 Old_age Always - 28 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 10 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 7 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 21 SMART Error Log Version: 1 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 12311 1062384488 # 2 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 12311 1062384490 # 3 Short offline Completed: read failure 90% 12311 1062417667 SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1 SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS 1 0 0 Not_testing 2 0 0 Not_testing 3 0 0 Not_testing 4 0 0 Not_testing 5 0 0 Not_testing Selective self-test flags (0x0): After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk. If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.
Syslog attached.
What I don't get is there are no red lines in the syslog page, and no occurrence of the word "error", yet the drive is red. I can access the files, but I would think that could merely be parity calculating the missing data and running from there.
Any help?
Thanks in advance.
c+h
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ok, solved my problem. apparently, choosing to operate the USB as a hard drive wasn't the right choice, but rather as a forced fdd. that and disabling quick boot enabled me to select a removable drive as a boot device, thus i could set the flash drive as the boot device there.
maybe this will help someone else. took way too long to figure this out....
cal
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Ok, not sure if anyone will be able to help me with this, but here it goes...
I need to add a 12th hard drive to my system. In the motherboard's eyes (ASUS P5B Deluxe), it's the 13th hard drive as the USB flash drive is treated like a hard drive. In the BIOS, in order to boot from the flash drive, I have to make the flash drive appear as "Hard Drive #1." Very straight forward until I added the 12th hard drive as the list seems to stop at 12 hard drives. Thus, 1 drive is left off the list. Annoyingly, it is the USB drive, thus, while the motherboard can see all the hard drives, I can't make the USB drive "drive #1", thus I can't boot to the USB drive with the 12th hard drive plugged in. I don't have the latest version of the BIOS (I have 1004 and 1238 is the latest), but none of the release notes mention anything about adding more hard drive support.
Any ideas outside of updating the BIOS?
thanks,
calvin
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My transfer times were fine before I added the 7th disk. Back when I built the unRaid server, I disabled anything that wasn't used.1.First one make sure you have the latest BIOS. Then go into the BIOS, load the default settings, save them, restart, go into the BIOS again and manually disable any feature you are not going to use (serial an parallel ports, floppy, IDE controller, firewire, audio, etc.) - try and see if this has improved the speed.
My AOC card is in the second x4 slot as the first is used for my graphics card. There is a setting in the BIOS to force the second slot to "fast mode" (which I believe is x4), and it is set as such.2.You can also consider moving the SM card to the second PCIe x4 port - try to see what speed you will get.
It definitely isn't a case of "must disable one of them" as the server works with both active. I didn't know one used the PCIe bus, I'll play around with disabling one and seeing what happens. I know I am getting Gbit speeds as I can copy from the server at 20+ MB/s which is greater than 100 Mbit/s speeds.3. You have a dual gigabit LAN but Marvell Yukon based and according to Asus specs:"Dual Gigabit LAN controllers, both featuring AI NET2
Marvell® PCI-E and PCI Gigabit LAN controllers"
You must disable one of them - the tricky part is one is apparently PCIe and there is a possibility that this one may share under a certain settings some of the PCIe lanes with the SM controller - and this is why you experienced this drop in the speed once you have HDs to the SM as they fight with the gigabit controller for bandwidth.
I'll play with the LAN setting when I get a chance and see what I can get.You probably may have to take a good look at your manual to see the optimal placement and what LAN port you should enable for use.
Good luck and let us know.
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I did this on my linux box (source box for copying files to unRaid box), and I get...
/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 2330 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1165.45 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 216 MB in 3.02 seconds = 71.62 MB/sec
Maybe it's not an unRaid thing, but my linux drive has some issues.
edit: checked my bios, SATA was in IDE mode, i changed to ACHI...not real change in performance
/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 2366 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1182.86 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 228 MB in 3.02 seconds = 75.40 MB/sec
hmmmmm......
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interesting. I'm always having to correct the time on my main desktop computer as well (also a linux box).The only thing that stands out is the motherboard's clock is constantly losing time.
You can get some idea of read speed of the individual disks by typing:
hdparm -tT /[hs]d?
Typing what you typed gives me "/[hs]d?: No such file or directory", same without the "?"
Do you mean hdparm -tT /dev/sda
If so....
hdparm -tT /dev/sda (Flash drive)
/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads: 7912 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3961.89 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 70 MB in 3.06 seconds = 22.91 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdb (WD 2 TB EARS, Supermicro AOC)
/dev/sdb:
Timing cached reads: 7876 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3944.49 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 314 MB in 3.02 seconds = 104.04 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdc (WD 2 TB EARS, Supermicro AOC)
/dev/sdc:
Timing cached reads: 7832 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3922.21 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 362 MB in 3.01 seconds = 120.19 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdd (Hitachi, Onboard sata)
/dev/sdd:
Timing cached reads: 7930 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3970.91 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 338 MB in 3.02 seconds = 112.08 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sde (Hitachi, Onboard sata)
/dev/sde:
Timing cached reads: 7758 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3885.16 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 326 MB in 3.00 seconds = 108.66 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdf (WD 1 TB EADS, onboard SATA)
/dev/sdf:
Timing cached reads: 7824 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3918.32 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 294 MB in 3.01 seconds = 97.75 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdg (Samsung 1 TB, oboard sata)
/dev/sdg:
Timing cached reads: 8328 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4170.99 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 310 MB in 3.01 seconds = 102.84 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdh (WD 1 TB EADS, onboard SATA)
/dev/sdh:
Timing cached reads: 7828 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3920.24 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 258 MB in 3.01 seconds = 85.82 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdi (seagate, parity)
/dev/sdi:
Timing cached reads: 7776 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3893.94 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 342 MB in 3.01 seconds = 113.68 MB/sec
hdparm -tT /dev/sdi (Samsung 1.5 TB, oboard sata)
/dev/sdj:
Timing cached reads: 8050 MB in 2.00 seconds = 4030.97 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 316 MB in 3.01 seconds = 104.85 MB/sec
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I'm not looking ot just move the files to another drive, i'm basically asking if reformatting the drives with the new preclear (and unjumpering them) will help me. Anyways, syslog is attached.Please supply a syslog.
Just moving files between drives will not help without you knowing the cause.
My setup is Asus P5B Deluxe
Parity: Seagate 2 TB, onboard SATA
Disk 1: Hitachi 1 TB, onboard SATA
Disk 2: WD EADS 1 TB, onboard SATA
Disk 3: WD EADS 1 TB, onboard SATA
Disk 4: Samsung 1 TB, onboard SATA
Disk 5: Hitachi 1 TB, onboard SATA
Disk 6: Samsung 1.5 TB, onboard SATA
Disk 7: WD 2 TB Ears, jumpered, Supermicro AOC card
Disk 8: WD 2 TB Ears, jumpered, Supermicro AOC card
It's when I added disk 7 that performance went south. I don't think any drives are failing (knock on wood), I just think something isn't set up correctly.
thanks for any insight,
c+h
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i'm having some performance problems after since i added the data disk number 7 of 8. This was my first EARS drive (disk 8 was second) and it precleared in a reasonable amount of time, but ever since, my write speeds have been limited to 10 MB/s and read is around 22 MB/s. Write speed before had been all over the place, but it would reach the mid 30's sometime. My switch lights indicate Gb/s connections between the two computers. Disk 7 was also the first to go on the Supermicor AOC SAS card. My BIOS is set for ACHI mode for the onboard ports (ASUS P5B Deluxe). Both EARS drives are jumpered (and were jumpered before preclear). WHen I get my next drive, is it worth moving all the data from 7 to the new one and reclearing it without the jumper and the new option? Write and read speed is not critical to me, but when moving a 100 GB worth of files, 30-40 MB/s would certainly be nicer than 10.
any thoughts?
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one other use reported 720p content working fine with live conversion with an e5200, so with my slightly faster cpu, i figured i'd be ok. guess not. i don't have it overclocked at all, so maybe i will tinker a little. those cpus do overclock pretty well.calvinand0bbes, IMHO you are expecting too much. But with AirVideo you can create a converted copy of your content, which suits the device better - no online conversion needed, just streaming the content. Although that works only while in any WLAN (has NOT to be the home WLAN!).
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I just used unMenu to install the air video program so I can watch content on my iPad. The install seems to have gone pretty smoothly, and I installed the Air Video Free onto the iPad to test drive it before I bought the app. I can see the content and any divx avi starts right up and plays no problem using live conversion. HD content in the form of mkv's start up as well, but they stutter. About every 10 seconds to 1 minute the video will freeze for ~1-10 seconds. I assume this means my server doesn't have enough speed to keep up with hi def content, but reading through this thread, I don't feel like I am too underpowered. I am running with:
ASUS P5B Deluxe motherboard, Core 2 Duo 6600 running @ 2.4 GHz with 2 GB of ram. Everything is stock settings, no overclocking.
Am I expecting too much of my server?
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Finding jumpers isn't always as easy as one thinks it should be. I literally went to 7 computer stores and elctronics shops and only 1 store sold any, and they came as part of a large "parts kit" that cost $30. Luckily, the service department at TigerDirect gave me one. After that, i went to the local recycling center where they accept old computers for disposal. They let me have all the jumpers i could get to without making a mess.
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if i were putting together an unRaid box, and I knew back then what I know now, I would be all over this.
Only problem is old computers are generally not toolless cases.
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? Isn't a parity check pointless as it will calculate parity using the contents of the failed drive, which is now emulated....using parity. Kind of like checking to see if the answer in the back of the book is correct using a photocopy of the answer in the back of the book.