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Following one of the many guide out there, I was able to successfully setup those 3 Apps. Obviously I am looking for Radarr & Sonaar to be able to push nzbs to SABnzbd. Because I am a security freak, I only allow connections to any of those apps over https only, I generally disable any plan http connections. However this creates an issue it seems, as if I disable HTTP connection from SABnzbd neither Radarr or Sonaar will be able to make a successful connection: Radaar: Test was aborted due to an error: Unable to connect to SABnzbd, The SSL connection could not be established, see inner exception.: 'https://192.168.86.101:9090/api?mode=get_config&apikey=22c24c74ce264af188ed0d66d73491fb&output=json' Or Sonaar with a slightly different message: Test was aborted due to an error: Unable to connect to SABnzbd, certificate validation failed. So I guess somehow the self created cert is causing issues... but the weird part to me, is that from another machine (Old Qnap Nas on the network) where I have a functioning version of SickRage running. I was able to successfully add the SABnzbd on the unraid server as a downloader through HTTPS (with SSL). So why is working from outside with SSL and not locally ? Especially with locally HTTP works flawlessly. I am at a loss. Thx for any help !

That changed nothing. What's the weirding is that almost like clockwork, after a reboot the unraid server, the internet "comes" back at about the 20h mark of uptime... Is there some services that runs at the frequencies that could explain the issue ?

I am extremely happy that after building that custom Molex cable everything seems to be working great ! Haven't had a single disk dropped yet, launched pre-clear on like 7 drives to stress the system and so far all is good. As mentioned before I connected directly to the PSU 2 molex cables - 5 molex plugs on each using 16 gauge cable. Thank you for the help everyone !

Ah nice thx !

Not familiar with those, do you mind sharing a link ?

Yeah... I feel you. Hopefully that custom cable that I making will do the trick ! Since I plugged the cages and the drive directly on the PSU cable (no Y Splitters) it has been incredibly stable, so I am very much looking forward to being able to reinstall everything properly.

Yep ok that was it... Seems I had a faulty network cable. Swapped it and got back in 1Gb. Ran LibreSpeed again, now getting 994-8 Mbps in Download, however in upload I am somehow limited to ~750 Mbps When actually running file copying to either Cache or Array, I get a sustained 116MB/s, so very close to the theoretical limit of the bandwidth, so nothing to complain about ! Don't know how I missed that ! Thx

Oh indeed they do ! Just ran LibreSpeed and indeed... my speed is 99.8 Mbps... It is supposed to be plugged on a 10Gb interface connected to a 1GB switch. I'll double check the network...

I just ran a test by creating a new share and made it "cache" only. And weirdly enough... I guess the same write speed (~11-12 mb/s) on NVME drives that are able to write at 1000mb/s...

Oh and important point probably - the array is encrypted.

Sounds good. Thx. On another note, I finished the partiy check and the array is now function - albeit all of the place in term of connection (some drive through cages and some directly) - this obviously temporary. However I am still very much concerned from a performance stand point. Right now I have 2 parity drive and 1 data drive (for now), each drive is at least able to individually able to read/write at at least ~150mb/s (sustained). But when I copy something to the only share I created on the Array, the best copy speed I get is ~11-12mb/s ... it feels abysmally small. I have disabled the cache for this share though to purposefully test the array speed. Any idea what could be happening ?

Understood. I purchased 16 gauge cable, do you think this is enough ?

Ok... there seems to be a world of progress here. I was able to power 1 cage and add 4 disk in there (3x14tb + 1x8tb) and the cage is powered up directly from the PSU with a chained molex cable. All connected to the LSI (on one SAS cable) I started pre-clear on all 4 disk, and for now it's holding well (performance and stability) - granted it's only ~3% done on pass #1, but that's further than I have ever been able to do. And outside of the cage I have the 2x14TB that I just completed preclear + 1 old 3TB (that completed preclear independently some time ago) that are connected directly to SATA 15 pin on the PSU and outside the cage directly with another SAS cable on the LSI. And somehow - for the moment - everything seems to be holding fine. 4 disk doing pre-clear, and the 2x14TB building parity. Wow. I actually still can't believe that the whole of this seems (to be confirmed) to be due to the power delivery to the cages... f*cking Y splitters... Can't wait to get the parts to build my own cables...

Good point ! Got a couple of old 1TBs lying around ! Definitely will try those first !

Ok preclear on those 2x 14TB have completed successfully last night. Not a single error, very stable. As a reminder, those where connected outside of the cage directly to the PSU with the SATA 15 pin cables and to the LSI card. Next step in my testing: connect only one cage without Y splitter and pre-clear another couple of disk in there to see if the Y splitter are the issue. (waiting to receive the components to build my own MOLEX cable to power the cages by mail). Thx again for the time you spent helping me.

Yep preclear still going strong on those 2 drives. 20h elapsed.

What are the role of those electronic components ? Are those capacitor ?

I can totally do that. I just didn’t think I needed to go there. Any chance you’d have a link to a finished product so I can get a better understanding ?

What would you use instead of the splitter ? For now I basically have a long molex extension plugged into the psu only molex line. That extension gets out the case and then is plugged into a bunch of y splitters to power the 5 cages (each with 2 molex)

Ok, I tried one more thing that I had never tried before. I completely de-powered the whole column of 5 cages. They are basically entirely offline. I have taken out the 2 brand new 14 TB and connected them directly to the SAS card and to the SATA 15 pin from the PSU. I started pre-clear on both. For now it is going strong (the only 2 drives on the entire systems besides the 2 NVMEs). But what is impressing more than just the drives working, is the fact that preclear is also working much faster... sustained read speed of ~260mb/s per drives for now. Whereas before, when I managed to run them through the cage (for a while at least), they were more around ~160mb/s - 200mb/s. I can't believe the likely hood of all 5 cages being defective at once... (I did not even bought them at the same time). Could it be somehow "incompatible" ? Both through the mother board sata controller AND the LSI SAS ? Feels too much like a coincidence... what am I missing here

Ok, so you are saying that I should have 2 direct lines to the PSU, and each connector should be on a different line ? Ideally. Ok, which cable should I take my measurements from ? 1 yellow, 1 red, 2 blacks ? (from the Molex)

Perusing the forums, I have also read about some folks who some BIOS misconfigured somehow. Is there anything in particular that I should be looking for in the BIOS to see if it is set correctly ? The only thing I remember changing are the boot order of devices (basically disabling everything but the flash drive) and enabling virtualization (with the intent of user docker - but I am no where near that). Also, on an unrelated note. I had started a pre-clear last night on those 2 new 14TBs, one was connected to the onboard sata connectors (via a sata cage) and the other one connected to the LSI SAS card (also via a sata cage - but a different one). This morning the drive from the on board SATA had halted pre-clear due to error - basically the drive disappeared (cannot find file .../hdb etc.) but the other one was still going strong. So I took out the drive from the sata cage connected to the onboard sata and moved it to a cage connected to the LSI and plugged it in there with the aim of restarting pre-clear. And as soon as I did that... the other drives failed too - same thing seemingly disappeared !?! So very obviously I have some physical instability... but I really don't get it... everything is firmly installed, connected, all drives are properly bolted, the case is sitting firm on a shelf, all the cage are strongly inserted in a home made structure solidly attached to the wall...

Thank you for the comments. I had noticed that the connection with the Molex Y splitters were not amazing, so I carefully pushed every pin to every tube with a small screw drivers from both sides to make sure there was a strong connection. I am happy to replace the Y connectors, but then what should I use instead ? Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Supply-Splitter-Internal-Extension/dp/B08CRXG2FW/ref=sr_1_21?dchild=1&keywords=molex+power+splitter&qid=1634488522&sr=8-21 but I am failing to see how this is really better ? Because from the PSU there is only one "line" for Molex, the 2 others are for SATA 15pin connectors. Also I find it curious that the SATA Cages have 2 molex power input ? Why bother with 2 ? Why not just one as the power is ultimately coming from the same source anyways... That just strike me as odd... I guess I could also add another line of molex to the PSU directly... https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Molex-Drive-Adapter-Modular/dp/B08DMFYDBN/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=multi+molex+power+cable&qid=1634488409&sr=8-4 For reference, my PSU is: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079GFTB8F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1 And I am connecting 5 cages https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DGZ42SM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 with the hope of one day using 20 drives... I got 8 right now. Is there something I can do to test if the voltage is dropping or something ? I have a regular voltmeter ? What should I be looking for ?

Thank you for taking the time to look into my situation - it is very much appreciated. I would assume that most of the errors come from the on board SATA controller, as this is where I plugged 4 of the 14TB drives, and it is where I am trying to run pre-clear on the brand new 14tb that I just acquired. Assuming - for a second - that the issue is not coming from the Sata Cages (I am starting to doubt this now), what could be causing such issues with the onboard sata controller ? The 2 nvmes are working flawlessly... I know they are not sata drives.. but they are on board the motherboard... The cages have 2 molex power inputs. What I did to connect them, is that I basically daisy chained them with Molex Y connectors until all 5 of them got connected and then I plugged the last Y on the Molex connector directly from the PSU. Is that the right way to do it ? Maybe somehow the cages are underpowered and it's causing issues ? I did buy a 750W PSU for that in mind... and besides the CPU (Ryzen 5600G) I got nothing else really taking power... no GPUs, etc. I'll play around with disk allocation in and outside of the cages and report back... might take me a while though. Alex