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Fan-tastic suggestions guys! (Pun FULLY intended). Order placed! I didn't really know enough of how this might fit into the server solution - thanks very much for drawing a couple of pictures for me. Much appreciated!

OK...so I used PVC tape to close the holes in the rear of the case. I fitted a new 80mm fan at the top of the case, and installed 2 new 120mm 3000rpm fans in the rear of the case. I've also relocated the server so it's no longer in my wife's office. Generally, the HDD temperatures are much better, although we're still not in summer yet. However, one thing is very annoying. The fans inside the case are all connected to fan headers on the motherboard - a Supermicro X10SRi-F. It seems that the fans are constantly in a "cycle-up, slow-down" loop which repeats constantly. Honestly, I think I'd rather have the fans running at a constant speed because the constant speed-up, slow-down cycle is maddening having to listen to it for very long, but I've gone through the motherboard manual and I can't find any way to over-ride this behavior. The manual mentions some way of monitoring the fans "using the IPMI interface" but - even spending some time reading through the manual - I can't find anything specific. If you can think of a way to over-ride this maddening fan behavior (whether using a tool, app, plug-in or docker item in UnRAID, or something different altogether - I'm all ears!

Thank you all for all your suggestions! So many great ideas... I found that my Amazon order for the 2 2000rpm Noctua fans still hadn't shipped, so I cancelled the order and found a local firm that were selling Noctua's "industrial" fan solution - basically they can go up to 3000rpm, and they're a bit louder...so I ordered 2 of those, and from another firm I found an 80mm Noctua fan that spins at 2200rpm, which would be ideal for the case top fan. When they arrive, hopefully later this coming week, my son & I will fit them, and use PVC electrical tape to seal the open PCI expansion slot cover holes, and probably the open I/O shield hole as well - making sure not to cover the I/O ports we actually use (basically just the 2 network port slots). I've got a feeling that's going to improve the short-medium term issues very nicely. We'll also have to move the server out of my wife's office, but I'm okay with doing that as I'd rather have the server run louder, but cooler. Finally, as a longer term solution, I'm going to keep an eye out for a third "5-in-3" drive cage and install that as well. That should allow me to install 3 of my 9 drives in each cage, leaving 2 nice big slots in each cage (and allowing none of the drives to be next to any other) allowing the cage fans to do a much better job of sucking air past the drives. I'll post back once the new fans have been fitted and I've had a chance to see how that affects the drive temps. Thanks again!

OK, it took longer than expected to get around to all of this, but finally it's done, and I've learnt a few things... When the case was open, I cleaned out all the dust I could see - in the case, and around the drive cages (especially around the HDD air intake grills). There was some dust there, but it didn't seem excessive. The fans on both drive cages are correctly aligned - pulling air from in front of the case through the drive cage, and expelling the airflow into the case. There is ONE 120mm fan on the rear of the case, and it is also oriented correctly - to pull air from inside the case and exhaust it out the back of the case. I also noticed some potential issues, and might need some help in finding the best solution to resolve them Problem 1 - there are a number of entry points on the rear of the computer case. I imagine these will greatly diminish the efficiency/effectiveness of the rear fan. I have (I think) 3 PCI Expansion slot covers missing, I might be able to source some PCI slot covers from a shop that sells computer parts (maybe). Problem 2 - The original aluminium I/O shield that came with the motherboard is missing. I think the chances of getting a matching I/O shield for this motherboard are slim to none and, even if I could find one, I'd have to uninstall the motherboard to fit it. I'm very open to other solutions! Problem 3 - There is a spot on the top of the case to install a small fan (80mm I think). There is a fan there already, but the power cables for it have been cut, so the fan is useless. So - I've ordered a pair of 4 pin 12V fans 2000rpm - one to replace the rear fan that's already there, and a second fan to mount on the rear of the case just below the first fan. The case has the space for that but it's currently been sealed with some kind of foam. I will remove the foam, and set the 2nd fan to also exhaust air out the case rear. Any thoughts you might have in solving the other problems I've listed, I would be very appreciative to hear!

OK thanks. This seems to me to be the best course of action... Shut down the server and move it onto a desk for easier access Remove the side panels and (with everything still connected) start the server and manually/physically check the fans at the back of each of the Norco units to ensure they're oriented correctly - i.e. - pulling air from the server front, and blowing the exhaust air into the case If the Norco fans are not oriented correctly, power down the server, and re-orient the fans. If they're oriented correctly, continue. Power down the server and remove any/all dust from within the case Examine the back of the case - check any rear fans & ensure they are oriented correctly - i.e. pulling hot air OUT of the case. If the server doesn't have any rear case fans (I don't remember whether it does or not), buy some and install them (ensuring to orient them correctly). Does this sound reasonable? I'm really hoping the Norco fans are oriented correctly - I don't fancy doing surgery on them again...but I have to check.

Hi there, I’m currently running Unraid version 6.12.6. My server has 8 data drives and a single parity drive, each has a capacity of 12Tb giving me a total storage space of 96Tb. I have the HDDs housed in 2 Norco SS-500 5-in-3 cages. Here (in New Zealand), it’s currently the end of winter, and slowly turning into spring. I try to run a parity check every month, and it takes from 20-25 hours to run. The last few months I’ve noticed I’m getting warning messages in the Unraid web interface that the drives are getting hot. The last parity check I ran last week and I could see that some of the drives were reaching 50 degrees Celsius (about 122 degrees Fahrenheit). Some of the drives were a little better (47-49 degrees), but all were over 40 degrees. If I’m seeing temperatures this high in late winter, I don’t like the idea of how high those temperatures will reach during summer. While I have a little time – time to put some thought into finding a solution. The server is sitting in a small office off of our garage, where my wife works. A while back I swapped out the stock fans at the back of the Norco units with quieter fans (as my wife was getting annoyed with the server fan noise). While the new fans did the trick noise-wise, I now have the problem that the new fans don’t seem to be providing sufficient cooling. The fans on the back of the Norco units aren’t the easiest things to replace either. My son had to help me change the fans as I’m a tetraplegic. One of the 4 plastic pillars the fans are supposed to be fitted onto broke last time. You can see the story of how the fans are fitted at the bottom of this review page… http://greenleaf-technology.com/new-norco-ss-500-5-in-3-drive-cage-review/ I’m happy enough to move the server to a different part of the garage to keep my wife happy, but I need to find a better cooling solution, and I’m looking for any solutions you might have. The current fans are (I think) Noctua NF-A8 FLX 12V 2000RPM fans as shown here… https://quietpc.co.nz/casefans?sort=price_desc&instock=selected&case_fan_size=80&case_fan_thickness=25&voltage=12%20 Any suggestions for fans with the same 4-pin connector, and same size (80mm x 25mm) would be appreciated, although I’m not opposed to any left-field suggestions either. The important thing is that whatever the solution is – it MUST keep the hard drives adequately cool at all times, but especially during long-term use (like a parity check). For those of you living in hotter climates, how are you keeping your drives cool? Thanks for any and all suggestions!

Never mind. I found it under Settings/SMB...and yes NetBios was enabled. I had to stop the server to change it to "NO", and start the array again. Now, my other media machines continue to connect without issue, and - after adding a user name and password the WiiM Home app is now connecting for the first time. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

Hi itimpi - thanks for posting back. In this particular case, I'm the client, and I've not requested anything specific relating to the SMB version. I guess I'm trying to figure out what version of samba is being offered to the devices connected to my network and, specifically, trying to ensure that SMBv1 connections are NOT supported. Can you tell me where I might look to determine whether NetBios is enabled? Again, many thanks!

I just realized I still don't have an answer to my original question... Is there an easy way I can tell what version of SMB the UnRAID shares are?

Thanks for that. Yes, I'm certainly getting the message that connecting the WiiM directly to SMB shares isn't going to be worth it, so I'm definitely trying to hunt down a Music Server package that will do everything I need. I'd like to have it run on my UnRAID server, as that's the only computer in our house that's always powered on. It needs to be able to talk to the WiiM Ultra, support high resolution FLAC files, run on UnRAID, and allow me to control everything from my Control4 remote control. So far it's been difficult trying to find something that satisfies all those requirements. I'm pretty sure ROON could do it, but I don't want to pay a regular subscription fee, and it costs way too much to get the lifetime licence. I don't mind paying for a product that can do all that, but roon is just too expensive. There has to be a less expensive option out there.

Hi there, I recently purchased a WiiM Ultra Music Streamer - mainly as a network-connected playback device for our music collection stored on our UnRAID server. While setting up the player - using the WiiM Home app on my phone I encountered an issue where the WiiM Home app couldn't connect to the UnRAID Music share. I get a "Connection failed" message almost immediately. I ended up raising a ticket and just got a reply back. They mentioned the usual things like making sure the syntax is correct (entering the address as "\\Server\Music", or "\\192.168.1.18\Music"), and ensuring the UnRAID server, the WiiM device, and the phone are all on the same network (as far as I can tell they are although the phone connects via wifi while UnRAID and the WiiM connect via ethernet cable - but I doubt that makes a difference). One other thing they mentioned is to ensure the server is NOT presenting the shares as SMBv1 - as that is not supported. Is there an easy way I can tell what version of SMB the UnRAID shares are? As an added note, it sounds like the WiiM support for SMB is pretty basic, and to get more functionality (e.g. music search function) I would probably need to run some music server software on UnRAID and have the WiiM connect to that instead of to the SMB share - but I need more information for that so I'll save it for a separate post. For now, if I can just get the WiiM to connect first...any help is appreciated.

I ended up playing around with the app for a while after everyone had gone to bed. I managed to get it working. I found one question on the apps faq page well & truly hidden that gave me a clue. In the end, the fault wasn't with unRAID (which I suspected anyway), it was poor documentation, the lack of a good setup video, and operator error.

I probably need to follow this up. If netbios is already enabled on unRAID does that mean if a device that only does SMBv1 tries to connect, it won't have any issues with unRAID (no SMBv1 issues anyway)?

Hmm...It looks like the "enable NETBIOS" option is already set to Yes.

Hi, I'm currently running UnRAID version 6.12.6 I recently purchased the Neutron music file player app for my Samsung tablet, and I was trying to point it to the Music share on UnRAID where all my music files are stored in FLAC format, but I didn't have much luck. The app found the UnRAID server (it recognized the IP address), but it doesn't seem able to drill down to the MUSIC folder, or all of the subsequent Artist/Album sub-folders. I raised a question about it on the Neutron forum, and someone has just posted back to say that currently, Neutron only supports SMB1, and they raised that as possibly being the issue? I know that a number of other devices I have can access other shares on the server using SMB without issue, but I'm not technically proficient enough to know which version of SMB they're using...or even which version of SMB the UnRAID server uses or offers. I'd like to get this app working (acknowledging that SMBv1 poses a security risk), but I don't know if this is possible, or even a good idea, or if there are any downstream implications I need to consider. I'd be grateful if someone could offer me some help/advice.