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Sorry for not closing this topic, but I never get notifications anymore. Anyway, it was ram. Didn't run a memtest, but replaced the RAM and it's been up since I posted this. Thanks for all the help.

Just finished parity check. All seems good. Zero errors. Well I guess it was the RAM.

So I woke up to my the unraid computer on, but nothing on the attached screen (total black - said no cable connected) and the web GUI on my house computer not pulling it up. Restarted the unraid, worked fine and started a parity check then 12 hours later same thing happened. My motherboard has a digital readout with error codes and said that the RAM was bad. So I just replaced the RAM cleared my MOBO CMOS and fired it up. It's working and again running a parity check. Here's my log file if anyone can let me know if there's any indication of what went wrong I'd appreciate it. Thanks. tower-diagnostics-20240318-1917.zip

Ok tried understanding that thread. Here's my questions, which I hinted in the original post. I don't mind building a new system and just moving over the HDD. The system I built originally was just parts; meaning I didn't follow a build thread or look at approved components. Then later on I realized that the 20 HDD hot swap case I have has a not so good backplane. So can you direct me to a Up to Date Unraid Server build that can handle 14 Main Drives and 2 Parity drives? Thanks in Advance.

Did a search not sure what to do. One of my disks says 1230 errors. So I ran a Parity-Check and that came back as clean, no errors. So is it just a bad disk? I don't know how to check the smart report. On the dashboard it has a green thumbs up for the SMART column. So what should I do? Also, I've had multiple problems over the years with my hardware setup, nothing major at all just replacing sata boards with more stable ones and bad cables, but it seems as the 20 bay case I have has a not so good backplane. Does anyone make a unraid case with computer and everything that's totally stable, but doesn't come with hard drives? oops forgot the disk log. tower-diagnostics-20211222-1053.zip

Ok. Thanks. Should I put the drive in a new slot and then rebuild that disk? or go a different route?

Ok I just had a drive go with the red X and it's about 6 months old. Can someone look at my log to see why it in an error state? I assume to replace it and rebuild the drive? I have a new one coming and will do that and then warranty the old one. Then I get to put another one in LOL. tower-diagnostics-20211019-1504.zip tower-syslog-20211019-2207.zip

Ok so there's no way to just re-enable it without rebuilding it? If that's the case then something went wrong, right? It didn't just not find that disk missing?

Ok so I switched all the Mini SAS to SATA cables and now I have disk 5 diabled!! So I turned off the server and switched it to a different position and restarted. Still disabled. I turned it off again and switched it to a different level all together that is controlled by the new LSI card and has a mini sas to mini sas and restarted and it's still disabled. Once a drive is disabled do I need to re-enable it before using it again??? How do I do that?

Hmmm ok. I will thanks.

Ok got the new controller and installed it. Added those two new drives and they install fine. Also moved drive 3 to a different SATA slot. During the auto pre-clear it did have a CRC error on one of the new drives; so I cleared it. It's been formatted and up and running for 3-4 days now. I even stopped the array like last time and then restated it and everything looks perfect. No errors what so ever. I DID not change any of the cables I wanted to see if the card was my problem and that bad SATA port. You said that I was getting intermittent disconnects from drive 3. Here is my log I was wondering if you could look at it and see if there are anymore of those interrupts? Or show me an example of what I should be looking for so I can diagnose my own logs...just like my proctologist does. tower-diagnostics-20210530-1053.zip

Awesome, thanks.

I know a lot of questions. This should sum what I was asking above. 1. The card I ordered so I just install in and that's it or do I need to install drivers? 2. How do I test it out to see if that was my problem? Install it and re-asign the drives if needed and then add the two new 8TB drives that failed and see if they hold up? 3. Can you tell from my log which drives has the ata errors to see if those are on the SAS2LP card as well so I know if I should change my SATA to Mini SAS cables from the MOBO SATA ports.

Ok I think I've got the hardware figured out. Here's what I bought. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008J49G9A/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S7KU3PC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ok can you help me narrow the problems down as to which hard drives have been getting dropped so I can isolate the cables/slots it coming from? I don't understand the SAS2LP vs. LSI so I'll list my equipment. I have: Norco 4U Rack Mount 20-Bays SATA/SAS Server Chassis RPC-4220 ASRock Z97 Extreme 6 MOBO with 10 Sata Ports going to Sata to Mini SAS cables that go to the backplane that the HDD slide into. Supermicro AOC- SAS2LP-MV8 Card with SAS going to Mini SAS on the backplane. OK, LOL now that I type this I get what you're saying about the SAS2LP. So guide me, that SAS2LP card is supplying the 2 parity drives and 4 to 6 of the hard drives (can't check now as I'm rebuilding the parity). So I should replace that SAS2LP card with an SAS LSI card? I don't know the difference. Thanks. P.S. I'm a little dense today. I get it, the link above cards that are liable. LOL ok got it. Thanks. I'll try replacing the card. Do I need to install drivers for it or is it self installing?

@itimpi I went to the stop button on the main page and hit stop. @JorgeB, crap, ok. I'm using a case that has 20 or so quick slots for hard drives all the "cards" are built in. Two questions, I wonder if I'm having this problem because the system doesn't like that many drives in there? I only say that because I've been using this system virtually problem from for about 10 years. Also, what would you recommend for a case that has those quick slots for hard drives? or maybe a system that's all ready built but missing the HDD? Thanks. P.S. Could it be a problem between the new HDD and the old hardware? Cause right now I'm removing the drives from the system and maybe replace one of the 4TB with it and see it the system stays stable.

Ok I really need some help. I went ahead and just rebuilt the drives. And then it was working again. I left it for a day and then went back to it and stopped the parity and then I had red Xs again. I restarted the parity and again it said Device is Disabled, Contents Emulated. SO I have no idea of what's going on. I didn't restart this time so here's my log. Any help would be appreciated. tower-diagnostics-20210524-2128.zip

Thanks. I tried looking at the tutorials the other day and all were missing. I don't know if that section was down. So what should I do, just go ahead and rebuild the drives one at a time or both together or try to find out the main problem?

1. I did install two new drives. One didn't pass pre-clear. The other did. 2. After I replaced the drive that didn't pass pre-clear with a new one everything was OK. 3. My power was off, but I have a UPS hooked up so I assume it powered itself off in a clean fashion. 4. When I powered it back on after the power came back on it booted just fine. No errors or rather messages, leading me to believe the UPS program shut down unraid clean, but it did have those two new drives as disabled and contents emulated. I did notice that those drives were disabled, but didn't know what that meant so I didn't start the array, but shut it down tried it again and got the same result. Read some on here and tried moving the drives around to different slots, slots where there are other drives that work fine in the array, to no avail. Like I said those drives are in slots right next to other drives on the same card. It's a 20 bay or whatever server so the drives just slide in, in their little carriages. All the cables are pre-wired. I could try moving those new drives to slots that are showing up as good in the array? P.S. Question, if those drives are showing up disabled, does that mean they are not working in unraid's eyes? Meaning it's just as if those drives are not connected? So if that's correct then in theory if those drives connect by moving them to a different location when I start the array unraid will re-enable them?

I appreciate the help, but I'm not understanding what you want me to try. I only acess my unraid from my home computer through the webgui. I don't understand the rest, the "use it locally" and turn everything off for unraid.net.

Crap!!! Power outage, I have a UPS and when I booted the Unraid back up both my new 8TB hdd have Device is Disabled, Contents Emulated. Can anyone help??? What went wrong. Sorry I rebooted so probably no log. I find it hard to believe it's common hard drive failure seeing as it's both my new 8tb Drives. I rebooted and I move their positions in the unraid physically to see if it was a cable or something.

Oops, already stopped unraid and pulled the drive and restarted with the one new drive in. I take it the diag won't have the right info since I restarted?

Ok change positions in my server case for that hard drive and started up the array after assigning the new drives and have immediate errors. SO I take it return it and get a new hard drive?

Gotcha. Ok. I'll stop it and add it according to the link. Thanks, all.

Excellent. Thanks. So if I run pre-clear again after re-seating everything and changing the cable and it's good I should be good to add it to the array?