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UhClem

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  1. Linux ... feh!! ... FYI, I first used, and did kernel development on, Unix before it even had dd (v4, 1973). The important point about dd, as it pertains to this discussion, is that the bs= and count= options have not changed. And, the (general) lesson to be learned by all (self included) is that it is important to read (and comprehend) the man pages for commands we hope to use correctly and constructively. The description of the count= option has not changed in its entire 38+ year lifetime (except in a negligibly semantic sense): May 1974: copy only n input records August 2012: copy only N input blocks The fact that it is a copy precludes any concern about buffering. It isn't really keeping it (in an active sense); it has just not yet overwritten it with anything else. Regardless, this can not be the source (nor excuse/explanation) for any shortage of user-space memory. [Yes, a perverse, and privileged, user can "manufacture" a problem by setting excessively agressive memory tuning parameters. If so ... "you make your bed, you have to lie in it."] No, I don't believe it really is "in the same way". In the dd example, only the buffer cache is in play, and in a very simple/straightforward manner. In the case of your find/cache_dirs example, there is likely some "race condition" provoked by an interplay of the buffer cache, the inode cache, and the directory-entry cache. If you can really cause an error condition this way, then it is a system bug (technically). [but nobody is both willing and able to fix it. (You know, like the national budget problem )] --UhClem "(readme) (doctor memory)"
  2. No. (In the chronological context of this forum) Totally forget about (disregard!) DISK GEOMETRY. No. dd read 8225280 bytes at a time. (the entire dd run consisted of 200 such reads). Each read() (re-)used the same ~8MB (user-space) buffer. I don't have any >2TB drives, so I don't know how fdisk -l reports them, but if you do get a much larger "Unit", you have no grounds for complaint. Instead, consider yourself fortunate that you didn't get bit earlier (for following the folly of disk geometry). Practical difference or not, it is just good practice to use the same basic unit (and multiples thereof) as the OS. (it's a corollary of the Law of least surprises )
  3. Cylinder? As a design criterion (such as you allude), the cylinder has been obsolete for ~20 years, even moreso in the last 5-8 years. Just change your default to something that "feels" right. And, totally forget about "disk geometry"--all that does for you is create a chunk size that is NOT a multiple of 4K. --UhClem "The times they are a'changing."

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