Array Card for LSI 9260-8i /for IBM M5015 46M0851 can it be flashed to JBOD

[comet424]

hi i picked up a Array Card for LSI 9260-8i /for IBM M5015 46M0851

off amazon  and the card came partially broken  so i ordered a 2nd one

but i tried googling   but is this card not able to goto JBOD?  or no

and what card do i need if these cards are no good

 

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08JBRBKJT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

is the card

and if a card  online is better or if there is a several  let me know

 

[JorgeB]

That's a MegaRAID controller, there's no IT mode, always RAID mode, see here for a list of some recommended options:

 

[comet424]

oh ok  so  was a mistake then

so  megaraids  means   you cant reflash it  then  or least a different brand

i remember doing 1 card few years ago but i dont remember what card i used, to flash from raid

 

so   stay away from megaraid name then.. i thought cuz it was a LSI  and was 8i  thats all i needed lol

the card cant even detect 1 SSD plugged into it either

 

but ill check the link thanks

[comet424]

@JorgeB

so  i tried looking on card and the website..  how do you know its a MegaRaid?  i didnt find that name

does a 9260 mean megaraid

as i read another article  they sated  any card 92xx  be good for unraid so i got lost

so these be the cards i looking for then

 LSI with a SAS2008/2308/3008/3408 chipset in IT mode, e.g., 9201-8i, 9211-8i, 9207-8i, 9300-8i, 9400-8

 

do you know whats so special between them

 

[JorgeB]

6 minutes ago, comet424 said:

how do you know its a MegaRaid?

This is the first Google result:

 

[comet424]

ah ok good ole google  i thoguht on the card  i was looking for it..  

my bad  i figured  u knew from looking at the card   or if a Certain number  means  Mega raids  like a chart

 

now only to figure out which is the better card of these

 LSI with a SAS2008/2308/3008/3408 chipset in IT mode, e.g., 9201-8i, 9211-8i, 9207-8i, 9300-8i, 9400-8

 

 

 

next time ill ask the unraid forum before purchasing a card lol

 

learning something new everyday

[JorgeB]

6 minutes ago, comet424 said:

9201-8i, 9211-8i

These are basically the same and enough for spinners.

6 minutes ago, comet424 said:

9207-8i, 9300-8i, 9400-8

These are PCIe 3.0, 9300-8i and 9400-8i are SAS3 also, could justify for SSDs or when using more than 8 disks with a SAS expander.

[joecool169]

10 minutes ago, comet424 said:

ah ok good ole google  i thoguht on the card  i was looking for it..  

my bad  i figured  u knew from looking at the card   or if a Certain number  means  Mega raids  like a chart

 

now only to figure out which is the better card of these

 LSI with a SAS2008/2308/3008/3408 chipset in IT mode, e.g., 9201-8i, 9211-8i, 9207-8i, 9300-8i, 9400-8

 

 

 

next time ill ask the unraid forum before purchasing a card lol

 

learning something new everyday

Take a close look at those cards you listed. Some of them are meant for internal connections and others have external connections, like to plug in to a disk shelf. The Unraid wiki is a good tool and the link posted above has some good info as well. Best to do some research before ordering.

Edited May 5, 2021 by joecool169
Sorry I was too quick on the Google and answered wrong. Go with JorgeB he has it right.

[comet424]

@JorgeB

oh ok so i wanna go with 9300-8i, 9400-8  those right

 

i currently have 7 Data 1 Parity and 1 nvme caceh drive

 

i just bought  a norco 20 Hotswap case..  

im running a Asus X570 Gaming Tuf board.. which has Pcie4

 

so im better off to get the 9300-8i, 9400-8  as they are PCIE3

to get the most out of my computer right?

and i have a SAS Expander card i bought last year 

[comet424]

@JorgeB

had another questiion

so i saw this card

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/143604880894?epid=1404809612&hash=item216f8495fe:g:J7sAAOSwcjpevOg8

are they no good  for having more then 8 hard drives?   with the expander card

 

as i looked up the 9300 9400 they jump up 150 dollars 250 dollars 

or do you need that to handle the hard drives..

 

or would you need to buy 2 of those 9240 cards  to handle more drives

 

just seeing which way to go

 

as i have this case coming

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B001NO7THO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

only wanna buy a card once and future proof  

[JorgeB]

5 hours ago, comet424 said:

are they no good  for having more then 8 hard drives?

See here for the performance with an expander and various disks, it will be the same as the H310:

 

 

[comet424]

@JorgeB   not 100% sure   i looked  

if i got 

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/122820849543?_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200818142055%26meid%3Dca516de6606044498d9511398e358655%26pid%3D101113%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D123714355472%26itm%3D122820849543%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2563228%26algv%3DSimplAMLv5PairwiseWebWithBBEV2bAndUBSourceDemotionWithUltimatelyBoughtOfCoviewV2%26brand%3DIBM&_trksid=p2563228.c101113.m2108

that card  and used with whatever Sata3/Sas expander card i have

 

or 

this card

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/143299825144?epid=14036731155&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item215d55cdf8:g:ZRcAAOSw7D1cRx6E&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACcBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%2Fn%2BzU5L90Z278x5ickk7d4nremBkvNKtcC0ZwqXDND2eGFXWxFXmzigtI9k21FCqpbAZs%2FaR7X6MH8YftmILYYj5V6%2B9SwMzJrgbHxp9c4EmKG706XvUyYyFsj%2B%2Fwf1bMs8okjC7mGvFwzBych6z4Pk4h3o4fQH82NxPMcw%2FlTmrhB1SezqshQV3buyOAQ9zMcRv4YRVHwNUfFaTC8c9CSR2SxbGOTy8O3oLCpeLNlkf2da1FoEXgSdpGKgstqHJ%2B9Y9QdvN8xjDafR8pi%2FDoQeAROWBwDaYZ71YGTv3wg4LmGdKp%2FrfcM5Bas%2BcxDK1VlHRLfav9Swtl9lmWfFxT17%2Fs1QETvPJz1NY86EV8V2cHvBLEJyLhJ6qg%2F1plOGvalxQr%2FelGlnapI0%2Bl7HeJy28GX2gLjn2gOqqbH1eDJN3hHUJW45eRF4Cpb63MC0Y0lkm3oYUVtz8xWs2ic22JeKnBeY6Q%2Fq76BUgWss2OxAQs2gnv%2FGfBWWpfh5bIST1UR3twJX5PPRYAbCsr71HM6DyY1HBHHGJIoPgBDC7kXDh8drnrAShO4fNFUkX9yRk9b6JF6dNMvbTgOt8j1rEaxOB1PfXWWfmFPEOX9OHZOZtOoYIrAwsxsrsoKYXt9psRWEzIHIgHmUmqC2G8mqr4kvQ%2FNSGWndlikzX8d0B7y60M5SHA%2B7q9WE2VrShQPfsXlB0SewQ18nkRBUiahZpNpeLMvM3BIQoji2X6DzWJ1sHucH7ybbCtnP2byJnGYOQIUWMEiS7LmZhE%2Bie33htOf8aQ8qtNqx6IvDcGId6Q%3D%3D|cksum%3A14329982514469fdf673c87a4ccd8c2afc81ac304bf7|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2334524

 

 

so i dunno  is the first card 12GB/s  going to make this expander card i have faster.  

or is this 6gb/s  card in teh 2nd link going to be slower with the expander card

 

as i dunno  skimm it all   and not 100% sure

 

12gbs ==> Expander card ==> hard drives   waht be the speed

6gbs ==> Expander card ==> hard drives   what be the speed

 

or it doesnt matter due to hard drives are only 6gbs 

or do  you got with 12gbs  in case you wanna add sas drive to the array

 

as i still dont know what route to go 

6gb  older card or the 12gb newer card?  does the 12GB  keep the expander card max at the speed it can handle?   where the 6b  only limited to 6gb

so then i could do twice as many 6GB  hard drives and keep them high speed  0 loss in performance?

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by comet424

[JorgeB]

48 minutes ago, comet424 said:

as i dunno  skimm it all   and not 100% sure

 

12gbs ==> Expander card ==> hard drives   waht be the speed

6gbs ==> Expander card ==> hard drives   what be the speed

 

Depends if the expander is an LSI SAS3 with databolt, again see here:

 

[comet424]

i have no idea..  i not home so ill get back to you when i get home and i find the info on the card.. i only bought an expander  and that was it didnt know  i needed to know certain things last year

 

 

[comet424]

@JorgeB

so i looked up the card i have it doesnt say its LSI SAS3  with databolt  i dunno

its this card

tis a 6GB card thats all i understand from the page

and from the page  it doesnt have the brand "unbranded"

as this card is not a LSI ,Dell,Supermicro,etc

 

it has no info really on Amazon or Ebay  maybe you know this card

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324342881212

 

so   i still  not sure what way do i go??

 

as what i think you said earlier 

8 hard drives and less go with 6GB HBA card

8+  hard drives go with 12GB HBA card

 

and then would i need a 12GB   Expander card   but this one i have is good enough for now

 

 

 

[JorgeB]

19 minutes ago, comet424 said:

i dunno

its this card

It may be LSI, but it's not SAS3, so no databolt.

 

[comet424]

oh ok

so i guess a 12gb  be better  it least max out the drives then anyways

 

some of this stuff just confuses me i just like to shove it in plug it in and i good to go  and max speed lol

[comet424]

just trying to figure best route to future proof for the next 5-10 yrs as  i didnt wanna buy another card  till then  perferably 

[JorgeB]

If you want future proof look for a Supermicro chassis with a SAS3 expander, those are databolt enable, chassis is also much better than the Norco you were looking at, but also much more expensive.

[comet424]

ah ok  i just looked frig 2000 dollars thise norco at 400 was alot for me..  as i just upgrading from my antec df-85 gaming case as my server ..

 

whats special about the supermicro  over the norco?

 

i did like the 45drives ones   but they are 1000 just for the case part nothing in it..

 

always something 

 

so much to learn i guess 

 

[comet424]

or maybe its just better to go with 

the whatever lsi card i have  thats 8i  2 port for 8 hard drives

and use 8 onboard sata ports and use this expander as is

 

i wanted to get a newer lsi card due to i expanding  was gonna give my sister this old one  i have 

and i liked  how lsi cards the cables all come out nicly in 1 cable then spread out at the end    not so cramped  in the case i have  if u use the sata ports off the board