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CIFS share becomes unreachable

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Hi,

 

I have some proxmox servers that depend on my NAS for storage. I've noticed that, if I need to take my array offline or reboot it, even when it comes back online, for some reason promox doesn't seen the CIFS share anymore. I tried to remove it and add the storage again, when I enter the user and password I see the list of shares however, it becomes unavailable. 

 

I tried with my QNAP to see if it was a Proxmox issue but that doesn't happen with my QNAP.

 

Anyone has a clue? The only way to fix this is my rebooting everything each time.. Extremely annoying.

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What server is the Local Master/Browser for your SMB Network?  (Installing the "Dynamix Local Master" plugin will tell this.)

 

Now, you also have to realize that it can take a long time for a SMB network to become stable.  You should probably read this for information about the entire process:

 

     https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-server-2003/cc737661(v=ws.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN

 

Yes, I know this paper is from 2009 but SMB still works the same way!    It is a very old protocol and is best described as a Kludge that just sort-of works reasonably well.  People who use it have simply learned to deal with its idiosyncrasies.  

 

BTW, rebooting SMB networks in a specific order (sometimes with delays between steps) is often the quickest resolve these types of problems. 

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I do not have a master server for the SMB network. I just have CFIS enabled and able to connect to each machine's users to get connected. Historically I had no issues but I am not maintaining an AD if that is what you are asking.

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Read the article.  Any SMB network has to have a Local Master!!!!  One Computer on any SMB network will be elected for that network-- even if there are only two computers on it.   What one normally wants is for the Unraid server to be that Local Master as  normally it is on 24-7.   A stable Local Master situation generally results in a smoother running SMB network.  (An AD is one level above a Local Master.  And several levels of increased complexity in setting it up properly.   Unraid does not really have any AD functionality built into it as I understand it.)  

 

In case you are wondering, CIFS is a part of SMB.  As I understand it, CIFS is actually SMB-v1 which has been superseded by SMB-v2.X and SMB-v3.X.   (Windows 10, by default, turns off SMB-v1 because of security series.)  If you want to know more, do some Google searches.

 

Unless you have hardware still running software from before 2010, SMB-v1 is probably not being used.  (It may be installed but dormant.)  SMB-v2 is much more efficient and safer to use.  In fact, LimeTech has turned off SMB-v1/CIFS in all installs starting with ver6.10-rc1.

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So I guess the problem was that I didn't set that up..  The master SMB is UNRAID but was using the wrong domain / workgroup (still set to WORKGROUP). But then this changed (SMB Master) to one of my VMs, oddly enough Home Assistant and not entirely sure why.

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Thanks for the info!

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