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Preclear 2 drives - one a lot slower

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I started these 2 preclearing not far apart, perhaps 10 minutes, but as I checkup on the post-read step one is WAY slower than the other.

 

At first I thought one had simply frozen, but the bytes read counter has changed from time to time, although no speed is shown.  Not sure it matters, but the difference in elapsed time between the two keeps changing, below it's 5mins, as I just looked again it's only 1 minute.  I realize the way it's being calculated in the script, or slow display refreshes, etc., could cause it to fluctuate in a strange manner.

 

WD Green (advanced format):

= Post-Read in progress: 0% complete.

(  9,870,336,000  of  2,000,398,934,016  bytes read )

Disk Temperature: 39C, Elapsed Time:  19:11:13

 

Hitachi 5K3000 (not advanced format):

= Post-Read in progress: 49% complete.

(  983,743,488,000  of  2,000,398,934,016  bytes read ) 84.5 MB/s

Disk Temperature: 41C, Elapsed Time:  19:05:38

 

Anyone think this indicates a problem?

That doesn't look terrible. My WD EARS drives are the slowest in a mix with Hitachi & Samsung 5KRPM drives, not that it's really noticeable in daily use.

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Ok, Hitachi finished completely just under 27 hours, WD still at 1%:

Post-Read in progress: 1% complete.

(  26,320,896,000  of  2,000,398,934,016  bytes read )

Disk Temperature: 39C, Elapsed Time:  27:40:39

 

The speed difference for this final step is insane.  Any chance it has something to do with advanced format?, the Hitachi is not adv format.

 

Things looked okay before the post-read but that's out to lunch. Did anyone mess with things about when you posted before? Can you start another session and give us the syslog?

Things looked okay before the post-read but that's out to lunch. Did anyone mess with things about when you posted before? Can you start another session and give us the syslog?

 

I'm a complete duffer and can only offer what I think is the "obvious" answer ... the drive just might be bad [shrug]

Things looked okay before the post-read but that's out to lunch. Did anyone mess with things about when you posted before? Can you start another session and give us the syslog?

 

I'm a complete duffer and can only offer what I think is the "obvious" answer ... the drive just might be bad [shrug]

And, we've seen that a number of times already.

 

You might look in the syslog. You might see a number of errors. They would give a clue as to what is happening. 

(although we've seen drives with no outward errors perform slowly...)

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Didn't even  think to check the logs, that was kinda stupid :)

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

ata3: EH complete

ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0

ata3.00: irq_stat 0x40000008

ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED

ata3.00: cmd 60/08:00:20:04:d1/00:00:04:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in

        res 41/40:00:20:04:d1/4d:00:04:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>

ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }

ata3.00: error: { UNC }

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

ata3: EH complete

ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0

ata3.00: irq_stat 0x40000008

ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED

ata3.00: cmd 60/08:00:20:04:d1/00:00:04:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in

        res 41/40:00:20:04:d1/4d:00:04:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>

ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }

ata3.00: error: { UNC }

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Unhandled sense code

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense Key : 0x3 [current] [descriptor]

Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex):

        72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00

        04 d1 04 20

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] ASC=0x11 ASCQ=0x4

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 04 d1 04 20 00 00 08 00

end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 80806944

Buffer I/O error on device sdc, logical block 10100868

ata3: EH complete

ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0

ata3.00: irq_stat 0x40000008

ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED

ata3.00: cmd 60/08:00:b8:42:d1/00:00:04:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in

        res 41/40:00:b8:42:d1/4d:00:04:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>

ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }

ata3.00: error: { UNC }

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

ata3: EH complete

 

Had this drive for a few weeks, used it a little before I decided to start the unraid box.  Mechanically, noise, errors, there were none on Windows when I wrote about 1TB to it.  If anyone has more info on these errors I'd greatly appreciate it. 

 

I have another WD Green 2TB preclearing now, but it'll be another 10hrs or so before it reaches the post-read stage.

Didn't even  think to check the logs, that was kinda stupid :)

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

ata3: EH complete

ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0

ata3.00: irq_stat 0x40000008

ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED

ata3.00: cmd 60/08:00:20:04:d1/00:00:04:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in

        res 41/40:00:20:04:d1/4d:00:04:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>

ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }

ata3.00: error: { UNC }

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

ata3: EH complete

ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0

ata3.00: irq_stat 0x40000008

ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED

ata3.00: cmd 60/08:00:20:04:d1/00:00:04:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in

        res 41/40:00:20:04:d1/4d:00:04:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>

ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }

ata3.00: error: { UNC }

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Unhandled sense code

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x08

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense Key : 0x3 [current] [descriptor]

Descriptor sense data with sense descriptors (in hex):

       72 03 11 04 00 00 00 0c 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 00

       04 d1 04 20

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] ASC=0x11 ASCQ=0x4

sd 3:0:0:0: [sdc] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 04 d1 04 20 00 00 08 00

end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 80806944

Buffer I/O error on device sdc, logical block 10100868

ata3: EH complete

ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x0 action 0x0

ata3.00: irq_stat 0x40000008

ata3.00: failed command: READ FPDMA QUEUED

ata3.00: cmd 60/08:00:b8:42:d1/00:00:04:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in

        res 41/40:00:b8:42:d1/4d:00:04:00:00/40 Emask 0x409 (media error) <F>

ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }

ata3.00: error: { UNC }

ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133

ata3: EH complete

 

Had this drive for a few weeks, used it a little before I decided to start the unraid box.  Mechanically, noise, errors, there were none on Windows when I wrote about 1TB to it.  If anyone has more info on these errors I'd greatly appreciate it.  

 

I have another WD Green 2TB preclearing now, but it'll be another 10hrs or so before it reaches the post-read stage.

UNC Media Errors are un-readable sectors on the disk.

 

Get a SMART report.  It will show the sectors pending re-allocation (or re-allocated) growing.

 

smartctl -a /dev/sdc

where sdc = your drive with the errors.

 

You can do this while the pre-clear is progressing on the drive.

 

Joe L.

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Looks like there are some errors.  Funny though I ran this for several days with no problems, and like I said copied about 1TB to it, but I guess maybe the preclear working the entire drive brought them up.

 

So, RMA I guess?

 

smartctl 5.39.1 2010-01-28 r3054 [i486-slackware-linux-gnu] (local build)

Copyright © 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

 

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===

Device Model:    WDC WD20EARS-00MVWB0

Serial Number:    WD-WMAZA4364927

Firmware Version: 51.0AB51

User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes

Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]

ATA Version is:  8

ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated

Local Time is:    Tue Jul 19 14:03:07 2011 EDT

SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.

SMART support is: Enabled

 

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===

SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!

Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.

See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.

 

General SMART Values:

Offline data collection status:  (0x80) Offline data collection activity

                                        was never started.

                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.

Self-test execution status:      (  0) The previous self-test routine completed

                                        without error or no self-test has ever

                                        been run.

Total time to complete Offline

data collection:                (38160) seconds.

Offline data collection

capabilities:                    (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.

                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.

                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new

                                        command.

                                        Offline surface scan supported.

                                        Self-test supported.

                                        Conveyance Self-test supported.

                                        Selective Self-test supported.

SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering

                                        power-saving mode.

                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.

Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.

                                        General Purpose Logging supported.

Short self-test routine

recommended polling time:        (  2) minutes.

Extended self-test routine

recommended polling time:        ( 255) minutes.

Conveyance self-test routine

recommended polling time:        (  5) minutes.

SCT capabilities:              (0x3035) SCT Status supported.

                                        SCT Feature Control supported.

                                        SCT Data Table supported.

 

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16

Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG    VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE

  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate    0x002f  001  001  051    Pre-fail  Always  FAILING_NOW 30401

  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027  222  204  021    Pre-fail  Always      -      3900

  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032  100  100  000    Old_age  Always      -      19

  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct  0x0033  200  200  140    Pre-fail  Always      -      0

  7 Seek_Error_Rate        0x002e  200  200  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032  100  100  000    Old_age  Always      -      54

10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032  100  253  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032  100  253  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

12 Power_Cycle_Count      0x0032  100  100  000    Old_age  Always      -      12

192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032  200  200  000    Old_age  Always      -      8

193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032  200  200  000    Old_age  Always      -      46

194 Temperature_Celsius    0x0022  108  107  000    Old_age  Always      -      42

196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032  200  200  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032  199  199  000    Old_age  Always      -      634

198 Offline_Uncorrectable  0x0030  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      0

199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032  200  200  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate  0x0008  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      0

 

SMART Error Log Version: 1

No Errors Logged

 

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1

No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

 

 

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1

SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS

    1        0        0  Not_testing

    2        0        0  Not_testing

    3        0        0  Not_testing

    4        0        0  Not_testing

    5        0        0  Not_testing

Selective self-test flags (0x0):

  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.

If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

This is bad,  634 sectors pending re-allocation when next written. RMA the drive.

197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032  199  199  000    Old_age  Always      -      634

 

This is exactly why many/most users pre-clear the drives.

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Ok, thanks for all the help.

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