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Too old/underpowered?

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Hey guys.  I'm getting ready to jump in and build a server and before I buy all new components I wanted to check if my old system is just too old (I think I built it in 2002):

 

Mobo:  MSI 865PE Neo2-FIS2R http://www.msi.com/product/mb/865PE-Neo2-S--LS--FIS2R.html#/?div=Detail

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz

RAM: 2GB DDR (1x1GB, 2x512MB)

 

Most noticeably missing are any PCI-E slots as this only had one AGP 8x, and the rest are PCI.  So any serious disk expansion looks doubtful.  Seems pretty bad, but I figured I should check before I make any moves.

other then the poor drive support options, If you have it already built and some spare drives to put on it (any combo of 2x sata and 4x ATA), it is worth trying.

 

 

It has a gigabit ethernet and can support 4GB of ram... and a P4 is plenty of power for unraid.

but it still wont be a a jet due to drive support.

 

it wont hurt to make a free version flash drive and test it. that brings you to the next big question... can it boot from USB?

after that, your PSU most likely wont support a large number of drives due to its age and size...

 

You can then start upgrading parts if you like unRAID.

I agree with what Johnm said.  That's the beauty of unRAID - you can start with whatever you have laying around, and chances are it will work.  Then, once you are hooked, you can upgrade slowly over time until you've built your dream machine!

Make sure your power supply is a single 12v rail.

I wouldn't use the darkfleet case for unraid. Large but wont hold many drives compared to others that can take 5in3 cages.

 

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The board isn't so bad.

• Five 32-bit v2.3 Master PCI bus slots (support 3.3v/5v PCI bus interface).

 

This means with the right controllers Promise TX4 or AOC-SAT2-MV8, correct SIL3114

you will get 266MB/s on the PCI bus instead of the normal 133.

 

You won't have the greatest speed, but it's good enough to start with and it will be pretty decent for a basic amount of drives.

 

if you can get the darkfleet case real cheap, go for it. I would not spend $160 on it. I would get an antec 1200 first.

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I liked the DF as it gave me ample slots to work with without implementing a cage.  And then there's still the option of putting one in the top when I'm ready.  I guess I kinda just balked at the idea of making a choice that would commit me to buying 4 cages at some point.  But its obviously better to have the option.

 

Didn't mean to turn this into a case thread, but if you were to rank the Antecs in order of usability (1200, 1100, 900 Two, DF-85), how would you?  I figure the tool-less design of the 1100 kills it, even though I saw it for cheaper than the 900.

In my experience, toolless, is never really 100% tool less.

What I find myself changing most is

1. hard drives.

2. controllers.

 

Hard drives always upgrade or fail

Controllers are changed as we may upgrade.

 

If you like towers, I like the 1200 with the ability to have 20 drives.

If you want to save money on not purchasing re-movables, the norco rack units are nice.

 

you really have to consider your data storage needs will always grow.

 

If your planning for the future and don't mind spending the money now. The Narco cases are the way to go as they are much cheaper than buying a tower case and 4 cages.

 

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marcusone typo'd, he meant Norco.  Norco cases are indeed a much better value if you don't mind a rackmount case (it can be placed on its side to sort of emulate a tower case).  As for the Antecs, I think the 1200 and 902 are both on par as being excellent options for server cases, as they can support up to 20 and 15 drives, respectively.  The other cases you mention look fancy, but don't offer nearly the usability.

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K, so leaning towards the 1200 as the DF-85 was missing some pieces which sullied the deal for me. 

 

I'm considering something like this for a mobo due to the PCIe x16 and x4 slots for eventual SAS card expansion.

 

Biostar TP67B+ Ver. 6.2 http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=526#

 

At $110, this was pretty much the cheapest board I could find with this feature.  That and the fact that I'm having trouble finding a good selection of 775 boards readily available in Toronto.

 

Overkill? 

 

My dilemma is this:  While, on a practical level, I'd like to aim towards a budget build, I've always been a proponent/practitioner of buying for the future.

 

*UPDATE* Apparently Realtek 8111E is no good?... there goes that idea.  And the Asus P8H67-M PRO as well

if you don't mind running 5.0b14 then the Realtek 8111e should be fine.

unless I missed something, the Biostar TP67B+ Ver. 6.2 has no onboard video?

I would pass on that board if you need to buy a video card also.

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Finally got all my components:

 

Case: Antec 1200

PSU: Corsair TX750M

Mobo: ECS A885GM-A2

CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 260

RAM: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600

 

Unfortunately I'm experiencing some shutdown as I run Memtest.  Has only happened once after a pass cycle, but I'll try again tonight to see whats going on.

Could be a loose connection, try reseating the RAM and CPU (and CPU heatsink).

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Turns out it was the PSU.  That's what I get for veering off-track.  Replaced it with the TX650.  Guy at the store tested and said voltages were all over the place and that he's never seen a unit as bad as that one, especially being Corsair.

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