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High numbers in smart statistics..

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I've been playing with the unmenu drive management page, and I've noticed high numbers on my Smart Statistics on a couple drives in my system.

 

I have a 500g PATA in my system that I originally pulled from a WD external USB enclosure, and it's getting the following numbers:

 

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   110   095   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       53456328
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   093   093   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       580
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   081   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       164049987
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       4029
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       98
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   068   038   045    Old_age   Always   In_the_past 32 (Lifetime Min/Max 31/32)
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   032   062   000    Old_age   Always       -       32 (0 21 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   055   051   000    Old_age   Always       -       161501831
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
202 TA_Increase_Count       0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

 

I noticed that Hardware ECC, Seek error & raw read error rates are quite high, but there have been no sector re-allocation.  Should I be particularly worried about this drive?

 

I also noticed that my 2 other PATA drives are also getting high numbers there as well (as is my cache drive, lol).  I am definitely planning on moving the PATA's out of the box, but I and just a bit concerned about the error rates on the drives (they are all high-hour drives, and I'm sure could use replacing, just didn't want to do it quite yet, lol).  Of all 4, there has only been one drive that had any re-allocated sectors (just one).  I'm also wondering if the errors on the 500g above could be from overheating in the external chassis that it was in previously.

 

Those numbers are not always in decimal. In fact it could be a bit mask or hex value being displayed as decimal.

 

There are no reallocated sectors, no pending_sectors, and no offline_uncorrectable_sectors.

When these start to go up then it's time to consider retirement.

 

smart LONG test on the drive just to be sure.

 

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Looks like with the new beta, the smart tests through unmenu aren't working (except on the cache drive for whatever reason).  I've tried to do a short & long test, and neither go through..

 

Must have been some temporary glitch, it's running a long test now.

 

Looks like with the new beta, the smart tests through unmenu aren't working (except on the cache drive for whatever reason).  I've tried to do a short & long test, and neither go through..

 

Must have been some temporary glitch, it's running a long test now.

 

One of the libraries needed is not on the new beta2.

 

See this post: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=2533.msg20174#msg20174

 

Tom has the new version of smartctl installed, but not the library it requires...  Should be in the next beta, but in the interim, you can download and run installpkg yourself.

 

Joe L.

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I did that right after installing the b2 build, it's just for whatever reason the drive kept kicking back and showing that no tests were running, although looking at it's log now it appears it actually was running the short tests, just not showing the results.

 

All of my Seagates report similar numbers.  It seems to be normal for them.  Since that is what Error Correction is all about, checking and correcting every bit on the fly, I have to assume Seagate drives are configured to count every slightest hiccup.

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I've got that particular drive running a long test at the moment, and I do also notice the drives that are showing the most ECC corrected errors ARE Seagates, the only other drive showing any ECC errors is one of my 300g WD's, but it shows around 6400 or so, instead of the massive numbers both seagates show..

 

Eases my mind at any rate, although I still want to replace anything less than 640g in my system with at least a 640, or 1tb...

 

All of my Seagates report similar numbers.  It seems to be normal for them.

 

When the 1TB drives first came out and we put them on our webservers we sorta freaked seeing these numbers.

Overall the drives did not give us any issue and it seems the seagates report high numbers in this range, but never really fail the health tests.

As I remember reading, the numbers are not always decimal counts, but could be some internal count that is merged with other statistics.

As I remember reading, the numbers are not always decimal counts, but could be some internal count that is merged with other statistics.

 

You did mention that above, and I had already forgotten it.  That does make sense, they are raw values after all.  Could be verified by monitoring them for changes, what kind of changes.

As I remember reading, the numbers are not always decimal counts, but could be some internal count that is merged with other statistics.

 

You did mention that above, and I had already forgotten it.  That does make sense, they are raw values after all.  Could be verified by monitoring them for changes, what kind of changes.

 

Without knowing the protocol for updating the value, it's hard to monitor for for changes that are meaningful.

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