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Slower Booting Time / Affecting Access?

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My server is usually off unless someone is going to use it.  We mainly use it for storing / streaming media files.  I've noticed since I installed a SUPERMICRO AOC-SASLP-MV8 my booting / start times have increased.  Prior to installation booting time would be around 30 to 45 seconds for being able to access the server via our two Dune media players.  Now, the booting / access time has increased to 2 to 3 min, which isn't too bad, but I was wondering if there is anything I can do to speed up the process.  Thanks.

Did you disable Int-13 on the MV8 ??    That shouldn't impact whether or not the card works with UnRAID, but it does keep it from showing up on the BIOS boot menu, which MAY help a bit with the boot time.

 

I don't have this card, so I can't say for sure whether that will make a difference, but that's about the only thing I can think to try.    Otherwise, the added time is probably just the scan time for the card.  How many drives are attached to it?  [if it's like my 1430SA's, it will actually take longer to scan a port without a drive then one with one -- in which case the boot time may actually decrease as you add drives  :) ]

 

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Did you disable Int-13 on the MV8 ??    That shouldn't impact whether or not the card works with UnRAID, but it does keep it from showing up on the BIOS boot menu, which MAY help a bit with the boot time.

 

I don't have this card, so I can't say for sure whether that will make a difference, but that's about the only thing I can think to try.    Otherwise, the added time is probably just the scan time for the card.  How many drives are attached to it?  [if it's like my 1430SA's, it will actually take longer to scan a port without a drive then one with one -- in which case the boot time may actually decrease as you add drives  :) ]

 

Yes the Int-13 was disabled, and I'm using firmware .21 with Unraid 5RC12a.  Everything works without any issues, but my kids and the wife get too anxious to play a movie at times  ::)

I have two of those cards, and they each take quite a while to initialise as they go through the process of starting the card, spinning up all the attached drives, and then checking for attached drives. 

 

I do not think there is anything to do about this additional delay (although I would love it if someone found a way to avoid it).

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I have two of those cards, and they each take quite a while to initialise as they go through the process of starting the card, spinning up all the attached drives, and then checking for attached drives. 

 

I do not think there is anything to do about this additional delay (although I would love it if someone found a way to avoid it).

 

That's good to know.  At least now I know that there isn't anything wrong with my set up.  However, I've been thinking of switching to supermicro mobo / i3 CPU, but I don't think my wife would be too happy about that.  I was barely able to convince her to let me buy a PSA XV30 subwoofer for the surround sound :).

Add a good UPS with AVR [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101381&Tpk=br700g&IsVirtualParent=1 ]; install UnMenu with the CleanPowerDown and APC UPS packages; set the drives to spindown after 1 or 2 hours;  and just leave the system on  :)

 

Not sure what the power consumption will be with your current motherboard and AMDs;  but with a SuperMicro board and i3 I'd expect your idle power to be in the 35w range => at $0.12/kwh that's about $3/month to have it always ready ... a pretty small cost to significantly improve the WAF  :)

 

[Neither of my UnRAID systems are ever off]

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I used to leave the system on, but my kids (4 and 7 years old) would push the on / off button to turn if off because it wasn't being used lol. I moved it to another location now. So, I am going to get a killawatt and test the usage. Thanks.

You can speed up the boot sequence by changing some of the timing settings and spin-up group settings in the SAS bios.

 

You can also disable the RAID function, as it is not used by UnRaid, which also speeds up the boot sequence. I have just posted how to do this with Firmware .21 in the Storage sub forum.

 

This should improve the boot time, it has for me and I have two of these cards.

 

hTH

 

TheWombat

 

 

 

 

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You can speed up the boot sequence by changing some of the timing settings and spin-up group settings in the SAS bios.

 

You can also disable the RAID function, as it is not used by UnRaid, which also speeds up the boot sequence. I have just posted how to do this with Firmware .21 in the Storage sub forum.

 

This should improve the boot time, it has for me and I have two of these cards.

 

hTH

 

TheWombat

 

 

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Thanks I will look it up.  Can I do this via telnet?  Or do I need to use a monitor?

Thanks I will look it up.  Can I do this via telnet?  Or do I need to use a monitor?

You will need to do this with a keyboard/monitor attached.

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Thanks I will look it up.  Can I do this via telnet?  Or do I need to use a monitor?

You will need to do this with a keyboard/monitor attached.

 

That's going to be an issue since my server mobo isn't HDMI.  I don't have anything to hook it up to either.

That's going to be an issue since my server mobo isn't HDMI.  I don't have anything to hook it up to either.

Most modern TV's can act as a monitor.  May not be ideal but worth thinking about for a one-off exercise.  You can also get cheap HDMI/DVI adapters if that would be any easier.

You can also take the SAS cards out of the server, put them in your desktop PC to update them, then put them back in your server.

 

This was how I did mine.

 

HTH

 

TheWombat

 

 

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You can also take the SAS cards out of the server, put them in your desktop PC to update them, then put them back in your server.

 

This was how I did mine.

 

HTH

 

TheWombat

 

 

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That's a possibility. I will look into it.

Won't work here;  but for future reference (if you ever upgrade your server), if you use a motherboard with IPMI you can do ANYTHING without attaching a keyboard or monitor.

 

One other thought => while you can't change the "forced" power-off that holding the power switch in for 5 seconds or so will do;  you CAN configure UnRAID so that normal presses of the power-switch do NOTHING.

 

That would eliminate the kids turning it off/on problem  :)

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Won't work here;  but for future reference (if you ever upgrade your server), if you use a motherboard with IPMI you can do ANYTHING without attaching a keyboard or monitor.

 

Well, I am thinking of building another server with Supermicro mobo, and using my existing server for back up purposes.

MOST, but not all, SuperMicro boards have integrated IPMI.    If you want to run completely headless without any need to ever hook up a monitor, be sure you get one that does  :)

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