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preclear and SMART

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I know I am worrisome over the SMART table outputs after running preclear, but some of the values look bad in my uneducated opinion  (those in the last column....)

 

Brand new 2 TB Seagate, retail....

 

=======================================================================

==

== Disk /dev/sdg has been successfully precleared

==

============================================================================

S.M.A.R.T. error count differences detected after pre-clear

note, some 'raw' values may change, but not be an indication of a problem

54c54

<  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate    0x000f  100  100  006    Pre-fail  Always      -      30610

---

>  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate    0x000f  119  100  006    Pre-fail  Always      -      207738410

58c58

<  7 Seek_Error_Rate        0x000f  100  253  030    Pre-fail  Always      -      18

---

>  7 Seek_Error_Rate        0x000f  100  253  030    Pre-fail  Always      -      469544

64,67c64,67

< 188 Unknown_Attribute      0x0032  100  253  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

< 189 High_Fly_Writes        0x003a  100  100  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

< 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022  071  071  045    Old_age  Always      -      29 (Lifetime Min/Max 24/29)

< 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a  100  100  000    Old_age  Always     

---

> 188 Unknown_Attribute      0x0032  100  100  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

> 189 High_Fly_Writes        0x003a  099  099  000    Old_age  Always      -      1

> 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022  066  065  045    Old_age  Always      -      34 (Lifetime Min/Max 24/35)

> 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a  050  048  000    Old_age  Always     

70,73c70,73

< 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e  200  253  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

< 240 Head_Flying_Hours      0x0000  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      82987358093319

< 241 Unknown_Attribute      0x0000  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      0

< 242 Unknown_Attribute      0x0000  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      1780

---

> 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e  200  200  000    Old_age  Always      -      0

> 240 Head_Flying_Hours      0x0000  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      30047591202843

> 241 Unknown_Attribute      0x0000  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      648355664

> 242 Unknown_Attribute      0x0000  100  253  000    Old_age  Offline      -      3566995329

 

the last column of the first two Raw_Read_Error_Rate entries have always been 0 for other drives.  should I worry about this?  it says successfully precleared, so maybe I am worrying for nothing.  (this is going to be my new parity drive).

 

thanks for any help,

c+h

Two of the items concern me: Raw_Read_Error_Rate and Seek_Error_Rate. Your post-clear report looks obscenely high. Perhaps Joe L knows better what to expect from Seagate drives.

 

Before:

1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate    0x000f  100  100  006    Pre-fail  Always      -      30610

7 Seek_Error_Rate        0x000f  100  253  030    Pre-fail  Always      -      18

 

After:

1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate    0x000f  119  100  006    Pre-fail  Always      -      207738410

7 Seek_Error_Rate        0x000f  100  253  030    Pre-fail  Always      -      469544

 

According to Wikipedia [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. ]

 

Read Error Rate

Indicates the rate of hardware read errors that occurred when reading data from a disk surface. The raw value has different structure for different vendors and is often not meaningful as a decimal number.

 

Seek Error Rate

Rate of seek errors of the magnetic heads. If there is a partial failure in the mechanical positioning system, then seek errors will arise. Such a failure may be due to numerous factors, such as damage to a servo, or thermal widening of the hard disk. The raw value has different structure for different vendors and is often not meaningful as a decimal number.

Your normalized value for seek error rate is 100.  It was 100 prior to the pre-clearing.  (100 seems to be the starting value for this model drive once it starts being used at all.  The 253 shown in the "worst value" column is the value given at the factor as the pre-initialization value.)

 

The threshold to consider a drive having failed is 30.

 

Your normalized value did not change after the pre-clearing.  It is still 100.  As mentioned, the last column can be ignored in the report.  There are very few attributes where it is humanly readable.  (Typically temperature, re-allocated sectors, and sectors pending re-allocation)    All the other "raw values"  have meaning only to the manufacturer, and they aren't telling anybody how to interpret them, as it is their trade secret.

 

In the same way, the raw-read-error-rate "starting value" of 100 increased to 119.  (It is BETTER after the pre-clearing than before it) It has a failure threshold of 6 and your disk is apparently performing better than average as the current value is better at the end of the pre-clear cycle than at the beginning. 

 

Enjoy your new disk.  These numbers do not imply the disk is going to last forever, but they are certainly indications it is working well now. 

If it got through the pre-clearing, odds are in your favor if it not failing as you start to load data onto it.

 

Joe L.

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thank you very much, Joe L.  as always, you are the man.

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