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So is unraid ONLY accessible through the web interface? You cant just hook up a keyboard/mouse/monitor (or tv) directly to the box and manage unraid directly? Rather you can only access it through a web interface from another computer?
Am I understanding that correctly?
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3 hours ago, Ademar said:
Since my drives had been mirrored, only one drive in each mirror could be read by unRAID. In your situation, that shouldn't be a problem. You should be able to mount the drives with "Unassigned devices" plugin, and use something like "binhex-krusader" to move the files over to your shares on the array disks. I ended up connecting my old NTFS drives to another Windows machine on the network, and copying the files over to my unRAID shares. That works fine, but it takes longer time because it's limited to 1 gb/s, so it would be quicker to connect the drives directly to your unRAID machine.
Be aware that Windows and Linux treats folders with capitalized letters differently. I had a folder named "folder", and accidentally created "Folder". When I deleted "Folder" in the unRAID share, from my Windows pc, everything in "folder" also got deleted.Thank you for the info! I'm a bit confused regarding the folder getting deleted. So "folder" and "Folder" were two seperate files but when you deleted the "Folder" file it also deleted the "folder" file as well? Since they had the same name did it link them together or sync them or something?
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On 4/29/2020 at 12:17 AM, capt.asic said:
https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/captasic/openrgb
Run only requires passing port 5800 and optionally 5900. Access via web browser to port 5800.
I'll make a CA for it once i iron out a few more issues
I'm currently building a media server with my son and we have Asus Arus rgb lighting and I was wondering if it was going to work in Unraid. I've not finished the build yet but does your plugin seem to be working good?
Alternatively would it be possible to setup a windows vm that runs all the time and control the lights from there? Would that just be too big of a resource hog?
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What is the process like to use a VM and is it bad to keep one running all the time? I'm trying to figure out if I had a VM setup for gaming and Roon music, what would be the steps to access that?
This is in my living room so it will be hooked up hdmi to a TV rather than a monitor. Would someone be able to switch the TV input to see the Unraid server then grab a wireless keyboard/mouse and just click on the VM and open it up full screen and play games?
If the GPU driver isnt installed into Unraid will the picture look okay hdmi to my TV when only in Unraid? (I know in the VM itll have the GPU driver and should be able to adjust things to look good)
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43 minutes ago, Hoopster said:
RAID configurations are not supported in unRAID arrays. It is, after all, called unRAID; meaning NOT RAID but still parity protected against drive failure by 1 or 2 parity drives.
EDIT: I take it you meant a RAID 1 configuration instead of unRAID?
You can create a RAID 1 configuration with multiple drives in a cache pool. Cache, however, is not part of the parity protected array.
I was meaning that my initial plan, prior to learning about Unraid was to do a Windows setup with Raid 1. Then I decided to move to unraid....but the more I'm learning about it and all the complexity it will take to have it store and serve media and games and parity....the more I'm feeling like I should just stick with a OS I know better and that other people in my home know better. So I've been considering that maybe I should reconsider Windows with Raid 1.
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13 minutes ago, jonathanm said:
RAID or Unraid, doesn't matter. They don't protect against
Regardless of the drive failure protection scheme you choose, backups are a requirement if you value your data.
Does Unraid have a way to create something like "recycle bin" from Windows? Which would at least help with a accidentally deleted file.
I'll just need to consider a ways to make it as safe as possible until I can work out a backup solution.
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34 minutes ago, jonathanm said:
I think this is where the disconnect is. The parity drive isn't doing the data rebuilding, it's ALL the rest of the remaining data drives, the parity drive is just filling in the last missing piece.
There is a very big gap between backups and parity being able to reconstruct a missing drive. Parity can't recover from corrupted data, deleted data, overwritten data, or anything like that. Parity is meant to allow the replacement of a failed drive, but that's only one way to lose data.
My initial plan was too use 4 drives in Raid 1 so its duplicated. Doesnt it seem like Raid 1 may be better? I switched to considering Unraid mainly because three data drives is better than 2 and I thought it would be rare that I'd lose more than 1 drive at a time....so seemed like a good choice. But now I'm not sure.
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30 minutes ago, trurl said:
As mentioned, parity isn't a backup. And in fact, it is probably less important than your other drives, since it doesn't contain any of your data, and by itself is useless, whereas the data disks do at least contain data. In fact, one of the advantages of Unraid is each disk can be read by itself without needing parity or the other disks, unlike RAID.
Single parity will allow a single disk to be reconstructed from the parity calculation using the bits on parity combined with the bits on all the other disks. That wiki overview I linked explains parity and I suspect that video I linked does also though I haven't looked at it lately.
As I said, parity is just an extra bit that allows a missing bit to be calculated from all the other bits. That is all parity ever is whether talking about Unraid, RAID, or just data transmitted on whatever.
And parity can't help recover deleted files, for example. Parity is NOT A BACKUP. Parity doesn't even know anything about your files. It is just bits. It just allows you to reconstruct a failed disk. That will get you going again a lot easier and faster than getting everything from backups.
I've watched the video and read about it but I'm under the impression (maybe wrongly) that if I have 4 drives....3 data and 1 parity. And 1 of the drives holds 5TB of music and that drive dies...the parity drive can rebuild it so that I can install a new drive and have all the music restored on the new drive. So that while it isnt a backup in the sense of a duplicate of the actual music, it can restore all the data....at least on any one lost data drive (or multiple if I add a second parity drive).
I'm not used to managing a lot of data, I'm converting a ton of stuff to data and bringing it together in one place from all over....I want it to be safe but I dont currently have the ability to duplicate it all and enough cloud storage to cover it all will be very expensive. Not sure what the best route to take is. I can add a second parity drive which would make more data rebuildable. Having some type of fully duplicated system off site is just not something I can pay for right now.....isnt a 2 drive parity the next best thing?
Am I misunderstanding what the parity actually does?
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3 minutes ago, trurl said:
You don't install drivers in Unraid but if you run a VM that uses the GPU then the VM will install drivers. Some dockers such as plex can also use GPU for transcoding or other GPU-type processing.
There are currently 822 dockers and plugins listed on the Apps page. I'm sure there would be a few that would serve for cloud storage. I have NextCloud docker running on mine.
Okay, so if I hooked up a monitor to the computer to use Unraid directly as opposed to through a web login from another computer, Unraid can use the basic necessity of my GPU without having a driver installed.....its needs are so basic that it wont matter? THEN if I need the full feature in VM, I will install the driver/software in the VM.
Question....this feels so rediculous to ask, but I'm building this with my teen son as a project together....soooo.....we plan on making it 'cool' with RGB lighting since the mb, GPU, ram all has rgb. How would I work the Asus Aorus rgb if I dont install drivers into Unraid? 99% of the time it will be just sitting there in Unraid, would the rgb just not work? Or will Unraid have enough functionality that we can control the rgb.
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@trurlthank you for the info....that confirms what I was asking in my comment after yours, you posted as I was typing it.
Regarding backing up the parity, wouldnt that allow me to rebuild something if my parity drive was lost? From what I gather having 1 parity will cover 1 drive. But chances are unless something major happens like the computer getting destroyed, I will only lose 1 drive. But I thought it would be good to backup the parity drive in case something happens to it. If I backup all of my data off site, what is the point of having a Unraid parity? I will already have a copy of everything if I backup everything so not understanding the need for both.
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Okay, so for the Plex container I can set it up to run off only processor with no GPU needed? Does it matter that my processor and mb (xeon e5-2690 Asus x99) has no video capability?
For my question regarding hardware drivers and booting up the computer first time.....is my understanding of this correct?.....when turning on I will remote into it from another computer and that will allow me to configure bios, install Unraid, then setup software/drivers for hardware such as the GPU. Am I understanding that correct?
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1 hour ago, jonathanm said:
Depends on how much you enjoy learning and playing with technology.
Well I like to learn, but dont know that learning Unraid is a necessity if other more intuitive systems will work well. With this no one will understand it but me, which may become a issue at times when I'm out of town.
One thing I noticed in one of his videos (that I probably am not understanding)....is if the VM is using the GPU then nothing else can be using the GPU at the same time. So if my son was in the VM playing games, then no one could use Plex which is in a container. At least, that's how it seems from this video at 15:30
That may would be a issue for us (if I understand it right) as we will be using this media from a lot of different places. On a windows machine as long as the hardware can handle it, I believe my daughter could play a Plex movie on her phone while my son plays a video game.
But again, I may just not understand it adequately.
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3 hours ago, jonathanm said:
There are many elements that you have slightly incorrect or otherwise have totally wrong, I suggest spending some quality time watching some informative videos that should clear some things up for you. Way too much for me to address one at a time.
I started watching his series on how to build a Unraid server from start to finish. I'm on part 3 where he is setting up the Windows VM.
It's a lot of great information, however the main thing I'm getting from these videos is that nothing is intuitive....and I do not know enough about Unraid to truly use it. Sure I can follow a video to set something up but if there is any type of issue I'll be completely in the dark with no idea how to address issues. Following steps someone says and understanding it all is two very different things. Im considering that maybe I should just abandon the Unraid idea and stick with Windows.
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To add....I guess one thing I'm trying to understand regarding hardware and drivers is once I have all the hardware put together and boot it up for the first time, my only video is the Asus strix rx580. Will Unraid be able to use that automatically when I turn it on for the first time??
How will that work?
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I'm building a NAS/light gaming using mostly good older parts. Itll stay on 24/7 to serve media as a Plex server and general file storage/backup and on occasion play games with it.
Asus X99 Deluxe ii
Xeon e5-2690v3
4x8gb Trident X ddr4
Asus Radeon Strix rx580 GPU
4x6TB HSGT Deskstar NAS hdd
1x 750GB SSD
Heres my questions.....
1. Will all of the features of these components work in Unraid? I've only ever used Windows so when I build this will Unraid find it all and all the drivers be able to be installed like normal (or install automatically)?
2. Also, with 4x6TB drives how much will be used for the parity storage? I've read but I'm still confused at how Unraid works exactly and how much space I will have for data vs parity. Will it be able to only use 1 of my 6TB disks and leave the other 3 for storage? If so, then would I be safe to only off site backup the parity disk using cloud storage?
3. Will pretty much any game run on Unraid? I suppose the games are ran in a Virtual Windows correct? Does that slow it down or cause issues as compared to running it directly on a Windows maching? I suppose I can run my Virtual Windows with games on the SSD correct?
4. Is there any kind of iOS and android phone app that will allow me to use my Unraid server as cloud storage for phones/tablets so that pictures and videos save to specific files on the server. Also that does a general phone backup....we have a lot of important stuff on our phones for personal and work.
Any info you guys can provide is great....I'm brand new to Unraid and just trying to feel my way through this.
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On 6/6/2020 at 7:27 AM, Ademar said:
I'm looking to finally set up unRAID, and I've got some questions.
My current volumes look like this (Windows software raid):
Volume A - 2 disk mirror, 4TB usable:
Disk 1 - 4TB
Disk 2 - 4TB
Volume B - 2 disk mirror, 4TB usable:
Disk 3 - 4TB
Disk 4 - 4TB
These was set up 5 years apart, so it made sense at the time to do it like this. For various reasons, I'd like to only have 2 data drives and 2 parity drives.
As I understand it, the array will continue to work even if both data drives fail, and only the 2 parity drives are working. So it doesn't matter which physical drive is assigned what role (I have 2 new drives, 2 old).
Does it make sense to set up the drives in this order?:- Remove disk 2/4 from my Windows machine, they will hold the only copies of my data.
- Install unRAID, preclear disk 1/3.
- Set up a new volume with 1 data drive, and 1 parity drive.
- Connect disk 2.
- Use the "Unassigned devices" plugin to mount disk 2 (NTFS file system).
- Move data from disk 2 to my unRAID array. (How do I do this, can I do it natively in unRAID, or do I need the Krusader plugin?)
- Preclear disk 2
- Expand my array (It will now have 2 data drives, 1 parity drive).
- Connect disk 4, mount it, and move data to my array.
- Preclear disk 4, set it up as 2nd parity drive.
I'll have to migrate Plex and qBittorrent to Docker. Plex should be relatively easy, but I can imagine having to add all torrents in qBittorrent manually since I'm moving from Windows to Docker.
To sum up:- Does it make sense to move my data in this order?
- How do I set up the filesystem on the individual disks. Is everything done by setting up shares, or can I manually create folders?
- Do I use "Unassigned devices" and "Krusader" plugins to move data to my array? I don't want to accidentally loose anything...
- Is there a way to migrate torrents from qBittorrent Windows to Docker?
- Can I see the GUI of programs running in Docker? For example, how do I see the qBittorrent UI? (apart from the Web UI).
- Is there a popular way of doing backups? I'm considering running backups from a Windows machine (network or VM) to be able to use SpiderOak.
- How does fan control on a normal pc case work? Is there a way for unRAID to control fans connected to motherboard fan connections? Or perhaps I will need to use a dedicated fan controller and USB-passthorugh to a VM.
- Anything else I must know about before installing?
Thanks for any and all feedback!
Hello, I will be in a similar situation except my drives have not been in Raid. Did you use the process you outlined in this post? Did you run into any problems? Were you able to transfer in this way?
Thanks!
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I'm in the process of building a media server and researching Unraid. I was hoping it would be possible to run Roon on it. Once its setup and running have you guys found it to be solid and stable? With Roon being on Unraid does it have all it's normal functions and features? Should it connect good to Chromecast?
I would be running the core on the Unraid server, Chromecast Audio to a stereo, and controlled by both iOS and Android devices. Is that how it would work?
Thanks!
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I can get a good deal on four HGST HDN726060ALE614 Deskstar NAS 6Tb
s/n K1HJG4TB drives build in Feb 2017. They have been used very minimal and test with no bad sectors.The only reason I'm wondering about compatibility is because they were not compatible with a Synology NAS.....eventhough marketed as "Deskstar NAS". Also, because once HGST was dissolved they seem to have gotten no support, no new firmware updates, etc
I *think* they are the v2 of the HDN726060ALE610.
Thanks for any info
Does all hardware work with all features in Unraid?
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Posted · Edited by SPOautos
Thank you so much for the info! So I suppose I would be able to hook the server to my TV via hdmi and pull it up that way to manage unraid, start a vm session or click on a Docker app....correct? I know it's not technically a monitor but it should work shouldnt it?
I like the idea of web Interface but if I just wanted to do something like my son enter a vm to play games I'd rather unraid be able to just be pulled up on the TV and the vm started.
If booted in unraid gui mode, does it still have the ability to do web Interface? Or is it one or the other where you have to select one and reboot?