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@spamalam Thank you for posting your updates. As a fellow UK unraid user with eyes on the X13SAE-F and 13th gen, this thread has been very useful. Where did you buy your X13SAE-F from in the UK that came with the 2.0 BIOS? Lambda-tek or somewhere else?

Hi all, I've searched this topic for "11400" and "11th"/"11th gen" but not found any results. Is the power draw of 11th gen (specifically 11400) not reported by intel_gpu_top? Here's my output as requested: { "period": { "duration": 17.874287, "unit": "ms" }, "frequency": { "requested": 0.000000, "actual": 0.000000, "unit": "MHz" }, "interrupts": { "count": 0.000000, "unit": "irq/s" }, "rc6": { "value": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "imc-bandwidth": { "reads": 3526.938104, "writes": 653.599060, "unit": "MiB/s" }, "engines": { "Render/3D/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "Blitter/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "Video/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "VideoEnhance/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" } }, "clients": { } } { "period": { "duration": 267.439602, "unit": "ms" }, "frequency": { "requested": 0.000000, "actual": 0.000000, "unit": "MHz" }, "interrupts": { "count": 0.000000, "unit": "irq/s" }, "rc6": { "value": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "imc-bandwidth": { "reads": 681.292937, "writes": 195.551053, "unit": "MiB/s" }, "engines": { "Render/3D/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "Blitter/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "Video/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" }, "VideoEnhance/0": { "busy": 0.000000, "sema": 0.000000, "wait": 0.000000, "unit": "%" } }, "clients": { } }

Hi all. I consider this resolved now. Thank you to all who offered assistance. The solution - I moved the equipment into a new case... (Fractal Define 7). 100% uptime since the change (weeks, now). Since I had already ruled out the power & reset switches in the old case, I have no idea what the problem could have been. The metal panel in the old case (also a Fractal, a much older one) that supported the motherboard might have been slightly bent outwards (convex), but it didn't look like it was far enough out for the metal to make contact with any components or tracing on the back of the motherboard, or any of the 'keep out' zones. Plus, I used all of the correct standoffs for the form factor, so it's unlikely to have been a short-circuit. Maybe there was some other defect that wasn't obvious, poorly shielded header cables, or some improper grounding or something... I'm not an electrical engineer, so take these guesses with a grain of salt! Either way, it wasn't the fault of UNRAID, which I can now enjoy uninterrupted. I have since bought a second license for a backup server, which is also rock-solid. I'm very much enjoying the product again. Thanks to @ChatNoir and @JonathanM and all of the members who contributed their assistance.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm only using the ISP provided router, which certainly isn't the highest security available! I will check the router. Presumably in order to shutdown my server the clown would still need my root credentials, which I have changed multiple times during troubleshooting? No IOT devices yet

I really appreciate the input. This had occurred to me, so I now run with the motherboard power button cabled disconnected from the motherboard pin headers. I power on manually when I need to. Issue persists. Thanks anyway!

Unfortunately this problem has re-appeared. I gave up on Intel and dusted off an unused Ryzen 3700X. Different motherboard, different RAM, different PSU, and installed a GPU (RTX 2060) as no iGPU on my CPU. The only hardware that is the same from both builds is the case, the HDDs, and the SSDs. I still experience unexpected clean and dirty shutdowns. Latest diag attached, and a few syslog snippets below: May 11 14:35:45 TimeWaveZero webGUI: Successful login user root from <snip> May 11 15:24:19 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 11 15:59:39 TimeWaveZero shutdown[8673]: shutting down for system halt May 11 15:59:39 TimeWaveZero init: Switching to runlevel: 0 May 11 15:59:39 TimeWaveZero init: Trying to re-exec init May 11 15:59:41 TimeWaveZero kernel: mdcmd (36): nocheck cancel May 11 15:59:42 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: Spinning up all drives... May 11 15:59:42 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: spinning up /dev/sdc May 11 15:59:42 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 11 15:59:42 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdb May 11 15:59:42 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc May 11 15:59:42 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: read SMART /dev/nvme0n1 May 11 15:59:42 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sda May 11 15:59:48 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: Stopping services... <snip bunch of service shutdown spam> May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: shcmd (103006): rm -f /etc/avahi/services/smb.service May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero avahi-daemon[3852]: Files changed, reloading. May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero avahi-daemon[3852]: Service group file /services/smb.service vanished, removing services. May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: Stopping mover... May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: shcmd (103008): /usr/local/sbin/mover stop May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero root: mover: not running May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: Sync filesystems... May 11 16:00:07 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: shcmd (103009): sync <reboot> May 11 16:02:28 TimeWaveZero root: Delaying execution of fix common problems scan for 10 minutes May 11 16:02:28 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/user.scripts/backgroundScript.sh "/tmp/user.scripts/tmpScripts/my_script/script" >/dev/null 2>&1 May 11 16:02:28 TimeWaveZero emhttpd: Starting services... Anyone have any ideas? At this point I'm prepared to accept that it's Aliens or Solar Flares... Except all other machines on my network are stable... timewavezero-diagnostics-20220516-1153.zip

Hi all. I RMA'd the second 10400 and bought an 11400. RAM at 2933 in Gear 1, within spec. Now stable for 6 days without issue. Must have been a bad batch of 10400s... Thanks all for help!

During first entry to the BIOS, you have to specify a cooler type, and that sets the TDP. I chose the lowest option ("Box cooler, 65W"). With the tower cooler installed, I've never seen the chip (i5-10400) go above 40C (as measured by Dynamix System Temp plugin and displayed on the GUI Dashboard). I suppose it's possible that the reading is incorrect, or that the fan is failing, but a CPU overheat (or fan reading 0 RPM) would result in an immediate power off rather than a prolonged, clean shutdown. The shutdowns take 90+ seconds and in that time unRAID is cleanly shutting down libvirt & docker, stopping the array, and unmounting disks. It doesn't feel like a panicing system powering off due to overheat!

Thank you for the response! It's a relief to know we're not out of options. The shutdowns are such a problem that the system is currently unusable, and I've migrated essential services to another PC temporarily. So, yes, I'm ready for downtime I will try the steps you suggest, and report back. I have previously tried running in Safe Mode, and still had the clean shutdowns. But will try again. Other things I've tried in the meantime: 1) Connect case's top USB 2.0 ports to the motherboard's USB header, and booted USB from those ports (to force USB 2.0, my USB stick is 2.0 but was in a 3.0 port) - still clean shutdown after a few hours 2) Ordered new USB 2.0 stick, arriving tomorrow - hopefully I can run for 30 days on a new stick with old config without transferring license... Will transfer license if it solves the issue, of course. 3) Going to replace CPU heatsink fan. Intel box cooler wasn't cutting it under load, so I installed a Cooler Master Hyper 212 from an older build. Temps went from 70+ to max 40C. But the fan is old, and I wonder if it's either stopping or reporting 0 RPM to the Motherboard which is then sending a "Halt" to the OS... It's a long shot but I've got to investigate every possibility.

Update - received new CPU/RAM/Motherboard and still system shutdown!!! Managed to update to 6.10rc4 but that hasn't fixed it either....

This looks to have been a hardware issue. I am RMAing the CPU & memory. Thank you all for your input!

Appreciate the input - as JonathanM mentioned, I have isolated that as a potential cause. I do have kids, but the server is in a locked office, and the issue persisted even when I disconnected the case's power-on switch cable.

That's a fair point. Appreciate the input.

Understood. I've dropped the memory speed in case the IMC can't handle it. If I still experience shutdowns at 2933, I'll try 2666. I would have expected a memory speed issue to cause instability/crash/unclean shutdowns though rather than clean...

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