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    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

    in Storage Devices and Controllers

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    I didn't notice before you're using an Intel 500 Series board, these won't allow CSM boot using the iGPU:
     
    https://scottiestech.info/2021/04/13/why-cant-i-enable-csm-on-my-new-motherboard/

    Right, forgot I’d come across that article. So here it shows directions on how to do so via Windows. Is there a way via Unraid or am I better off buying a cheap graphics card?

    Would that for whatever reason allow me to figure out why my 10tb isn’t working (showing in HBA) or is that a separate issue?


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    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    Hey all, thanks for the guidance so far. Here's where I'm at: 

     

    In my motherboard settings, went into advanced, then went down to Legacy Bios and disabled it for the time being to troubleshoot. Ii was previously enabled. I also in Boot, Boot Configuration under Boot Logo Display it reads "Full Screen" and right below it says Post Delay Time as 5 seconds.Also, CSM (Compatibility Support Module Configuration) is still greyed out and defaults to Disabled under Launch CSM though I can't change it or select anything. Additionally, in the motherboard BOOT settings under Option ROM Messages I made sure Force BIOS was selected. Finally, in looking at the motherboard BIOS settings, I'm on the latest BIOS, 1203 with a build date of 10/27/2021. At this point, I'm stumped. Still unable to get into HBA BIOS either. Tempted to change out the motherboard for an Asus Z590, though don't know what that would accomplish. Still partially convinced that the seller of the hard drive, by chance the drive got damaged in shipping and I should just return it and get another one and try that one out.

    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    I’ll try this when I get home tonight or tomorrow from work. TheArtofServer responded to me on eBay with the following:

    “Most SAS-3 HDDs should work with SAS-2 controllers. The only exception I know of are some Seagate SAS-3 drives with buggy firmware that won't negotiate to lower protocols. I avoid Seagate for many reasons, this being one of them.

    The problem of not being able to get into the LSI ROM program with Ctrl-C might be caused by the system booting UEFI mode instead of BIOS mode. If you are in UEFI mode, your UEFI system menu should have a HII section that allows you to see the LSI card (as I also have the UEFI ROM loaded on these cards). If you don't have a HII, then you might need to try to set the motherboard in BIOS mode, at least for testing purposes.”


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    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    4 minutes ago, SimonF said:

    Have you enabled the option bios in the motherboard bios for the pcie hba?

    Not sure, can't seem to find that in the bios manual. https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/13MANUAL/PRIME_PRO_TUF_GAMING_Intel_500_Series_BIOS_EM_WEB_EN.pdf. Is there another name that might be under? Would it be making sure the HBA boots and not tries to boot from the HBA? 

    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    8 hours ago, JorgeB said:

    SAS3 is backwards compatible with SAS2.

    Hmm, not sure what it is then. I thought it could be that the drive is dead. The seller assured me that it was working at the time of shipping it. I had also thought that since my controller is 6gbps and the drive is 12gbps that it wouldn't work because of that, but in posting in a UnRaid Facebook group others have gotten that to work with no issue. Also, I am unable to access the HBA bios as it's not showing up following POST. I learned about using Control + C but even then nothing is happening, it just goes into the motherboard bios. The motherboard bios just says there's one SAS drive connected and there should be 2 connected. I attached the tower diagnostics zip and syslog text. I think I'm just bummed, as I love UnRaid as a concept, I just haven't quite gotten to see it's full potential yet. 

    tower-diagnostics-20220218-1150.zip syslog.txt

    JRD680 Build, You Have To Start Somewhere

    in Unraid Compulsive Design

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    Hi all, thought I'd post my build and get some feedback as well.

     

    Mind you I'm a complete noob though have followed the technology of UnRaid for several years. Finally getting around to building a server.

     

    Right now I'm running the following:

    Intel i5 10400 CPU @ 2.90GHz Processor

    Asus Prime B560-Plus Motherboard

    2 sticks of Crucial 8GB 2666 MHz RAM for 16 GB total

    A 6TB SAS drive with a 10TB SAS drive on the way

    A SATA drive 256gb or 1TB from MicroCenter planning to use as a cache drive

    Samsung Flash Drive 1100 (32GB) for my boot drive of UnRaid

    Genuine LSI 6Gbps SAS HBA LSI 9211-8i (=9201-8i) P20 IT Mode

     

    I plan to use this server for media (TV and Movies), backups of my computer (MacBook Pro) and backup my photos and videos from my phone. At the moment it'll be used for backing up via Time Machine and backing up photos and videos from my phone. That's my initial goal that I hope to meet in the coming weeks.

     

    Things to Do

    add PCIE M.2 3 SSD

    upgrade drives from SAS to SATA over time

    Enable iGPU

    Enable CSM

     

    Here’s some notes I had in my phone too that might be of interest.

     

    I also ended up installing and getting the HBA card to work so that’s solved.

     

    2/2/22

    Installed HBA card, had to remove bracket, used cables and not recognized by Unraid or bios (sees LSI card though). Maybe see about this link https://forums.unraid.net/topic/92788-solved-hba-attached-drives-not-showing-up-in-unraid/

     

    8482 connector to 8087

     

    breakout cable for sata hard drives

     

    1/24/22

    Ordered Genuine LSI 6Gbps SAS HBA LSI 9211-8i (=9201-8i) P20 IT Mode ZFS FreeNAS unRAID from Art of Server to connect SAS drives.

     

    1/31/22

    Installed HBA card, had to remove bracket off HBA card to install it, stupid case. HBA card is:

    Genuine LSI 6Gbps SAS HBA LSI 9211-8i (=9201-8i) P20 IT Mode ZFS FreeNAS unRAID

     

     

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    Tower cases with 5.25" drive bays top to bottom...

    in Hardware

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    1 hour ago, craigr said:

    A friend of mine found this case on Ali:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003148866235.html

     

    14x 3.5 bays up the whole front.  Anyone tried it?  It's pretty pricey at $257 without power supply (PS is optional).  Looks ideal if it's not garbage.  Is it similar to any other cases?

     

    Thanks,

    craigr

     

    I like the look of this case, not sure how good it is but looks promissing. 

    Tower cases with 5.25" drive bays top to bottom...

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    Im surpised noone has mentioned the cooler master N400 case.  out of the box it holds 8 HD and has 2 external 5.25 bays.  You can buy any number of 3 into 2 inserts to turn that into an 11 HD case using those two bays.  
     
    I just bought one for about $70.  I also have a rosewill 4500, which holds 15 drives.  These are currently $180, fyi.  I didnt need a second one at that price.  I believe i bought my 4500 for ~ $100 in 2013.  

    I have the N400 case, things are really tight, I don’t like it overall, wish it was roomier.


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    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    So I went ahead and troubleshooted. Turns out I have 1 SAS drive working and my SATA SSD drive working, all the rest appear to be dead drives. Also might have to enlist the help of a friend as trying to remove the drives on my case is a pain, the backside has the place where my 2.5 inch SSD drive is and then brackets and such that make it really hard to each in and unscrew the plastic things that are keeping the drives in. I think I’ll need a second pair of hands and also some more SAS drives.


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    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    Hey all, exciting news, she boots and a drive is recognized!

    I first looked and saw the SATA plugged into the power supply. 94a2289948653c69b1d953dcddab18b1.jpg

    Then I saw on the red cables I have a SAS to SATA attached, and detached it.

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    Then plugged in like so a2a8304470906ed556a584f653d6f48d.jpg

    Knew it was good when this shows as recognizing baf2606df63f022d0e100b65786ca64b.jpg

    That said after plugging them in only 1 out of the 5 SAS drives I’ve plugged in work, that said it’s better then we started. Now what next steps to troubleshoot whether the other drives are dead or will boot? Maybe a 3.3v pin issue?


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    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    21 hours ago, JorgeB said:

    CSM Legacy boot must be enable, as well as OPT ROM for the PCIe slots, then CTRL + C during boot when you see the LSI BIOS.

     

    Ok, I think I was having issues with enabling the CSM, I'll check tomorrow after work. I gotta dig into that. 

     

    19 hours ago, JorgeB said:

    One more thing, this is fairly obvious, but since it happened before, you did connect power to the SAS cables right?

     

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    I connected the SAS cales from the drives to the HBA controller, is that sufficient, or am I missing something completely?

    HBA is recognized by BIOS but isn't showing drives attached

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    Hi all. I installed a Genuine LSI 6Gbps SAS HBA LSI 9211-8i (=9201-8i) P20 IT Mode ZFS FreeNAS unRAID from Art of Server to connect my SAS drives. Originally I tried to connect my SAS drives to my motherboard SATA slots but of course they wouldn't work. I then purchased these cables, thinking connecting these would work. CABLEDECONN Mini SAS 36 SFF-8087 to (4) SFF-8482 Connectors with SATA Power 0.5m. For whatever reason, the drives aren't showing up at all even though I've connected the SFF-8087 cable to my HBA card (flashed in IT mode by Art of Server on eBay). 

     

    In looking at my BIOS manual for my motherboard (Asus Prime B560-Plus Motherboard), I thought I might need to change my PCie Bandwidth Bifurcation Configuration to X8/X8 instead of PCIEX16_1. The PCie Bandwidth Bifurcation Configuration doesn't even show up in my bios at all. I was going to make a separate post on that, but figured I'd hold off as I didn't want to be accused of double posting. 

     

    Are the cables I purchased right for connecting my SAS drives to my HBA card? My motherboard recognizes my HBA card but doesn't recognize the drives (no drives show up aside from my SATA SSD). In doing further reading, could I have purchased reverse breakout cables by mistake? Also unable to change the PCI mapping on the BIOS from 1x16 to 2x8 (assuming this is in reference to PCie Bandwidth Bifurcation Configuration, just a more universal name).  Let me know of next steps. 

     

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