s.Oliver

i see, and don't get me wrong, didn't want to back off being a test-dummy ok, i did a short test with the LibreELEC build and my card. first things first: your plug-in reports v1.2.2 as drivers and everything is detected right. all tuners are recognized and they seem to work. BUT: i see alot of errors reported through TVH and also more errors in the TVH log (all in comparison to the github build to which i'm back now). i'll report a bit more detailed, but need to get some sleep now.

ah, thanks! i see. well, as long as you provide these dedicated builds i'll probably simply use them – and afterwards i hopefully remember that i've to use that LibreELEC build

ok, but i simply took the digital devices github build

well, we'll need your magic in the future, because in my tests i've seen no driver (or let me say detection of it) while using the standard unRAID build and an Digital Devices tv-card. if i would need to guess, i would say, that lime tech doesn't compile them in their kernel (probably as to get it as small as possible). my TBS 8-tuner DVB-C card had a small fan, which cried to loud. so i've replaced it with the DD Max A8, which is a passiv-cooled card. all seems to working well and it was a simple breeze to change TVH settings (2 min.) to use this card; and all was running immediately.

ok, thx. if drivers are included in kernel, do you have to do extra steps (or none at all) to make them useable for unRAIDs kernel? (JFMI)

ok, just had a phone call to digital devices and learned, that their tv-card drivers are incorporated into the linux kernel since v4.14. that means, we shouldn't have any problems with driver support, right? @CHBMB is that correct?

yah, i simply use only one dvb-broadcasting standard; doesn't add value here to use dvb-t, if you got dvb-c already. well, i'm waiting for @CHBMB to chime in to decide if digital device's 8 tuner card is an option. would make lots of things easier, even though, they charge a bit of an extra over TBS cards.

thx. rick. – good to know that this option would work. when i replaced the 6205 with the 6209 i had only to enable all the tuners and map the dvb-c network to them – everything else worked immediately. was a perfect thingie, except that noisy fan.

@CHBMB i've a TBS 6209 (Octa)-Tuner card in my system now, and all seems to work as expected. but: this card has an active cooling fan, which is annoying (loud to my ears). i'll probably return the card and struggle what to do next. so i could: scenario 1: buy another TBS-6205 (waste one more PCIe slot, which could backfire later) and interconnect card 1 OUT to card 2 IN – at least so i don´t need to use a splitter beforehand. question 1: because of two times (same) PCIe cards, will they both get pass'ed through (--device=/dev/dvb/) and seen correctly from TVH? is it then adapter 5-8 for the 2nd card or will there be another number scheme? scenario 2: buy one Digital Devices DD Max A8 TV card (also octa-tuner dvb-c) but has passiv cooling (so no waste of a PCI slot and quiet). question 2: how about the device driver support from digital devices? i can't recall exactly, but didn't they have problems? or would we expect any problems with drivers and/or TVHeadend? thx.

ya, ya, i see ? well, we got quite a bunch of muxes here, so i‘m hitting the ceiling now and then. if a lot of recordings are at the same time, i need to look at my mux-list to see, if my 4 tuners are enough.

still on 6205 (need to sell that one first) do we have to expect bigger changes or non-working situations? got a few friends which will get an unRAID/TVH-solution soon.

i can report, that at least my card was detected and TVH is recording now a few titles. can't tell though, if these are ok (at least i don't see any unusual error countings up to now).

what about taking the drive out, formatting with another machine and put it back in (so no old structures, partitions, etc. on drive).?

JFYI: just updated to the latest version (as of yet – 2018.01.07a) of UD and now see this error: Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/unassigned.devices/include/lib.php on line 920 Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/unassigned.devices/include/lib.php on line 1099 i've no shares, etc. mounted. maybe it is assuming, that there's at least one mounted?

your HD HomeRuns stream directly to TVH, or in other words: TVH tells them to stream a channel (or several at the same time), whenever it records or wants to tune on a channel for Live TV – so no transcoding here. your clients (which receive from TVH) are the ones which define if transcoding comes into play. if you use KODI, there shouldn't be any transcoding necessary.

i see and sorry, have mixed you both guys up. good to see that the hardware transcode with intel quicksync-feature seems to work (and that software projects as plex do pick it up). but as always, it's just on pretty new cpus so not for me

alturismo, i'm using TVH extensively for recording (as docker) and you barely can tell on cpu usage if it's recording or not. all functions except transcoding are extrem low on cpu usage. transcoding uses lots of cpu in any solution (i tested emby, plex and a few other solutions). so you need to avoid it. but: TVH offers quite a few possibilities; for example you can use VLC, or KODI (with TVH Plug-In) or the iOS app to watch live-TV and all without transcoding! it's also pretty cheap to grab a small android box with KODI/TVH plug-in and have a full blown TV appliance. from an DVR solution point i wouldn't go back to any other solution (at least not on unRAID – and i wouldn't exchange unRAID for any other storage solution). you get quite a bunch of possibilities within one package and the community is great.

great! now, if somebody has a need for the TBS-6205 DVB-T/T2/C (Quad-Tuner) card…

thx. alot. for that.

@CHBMB i'm thinking about getting myself a TBS-6209 (Octa-Tuner) card. am i right, that the TBS open source drivers do support it? there's a promotion on their stuff (save 5% until 22nd of dec.) currently i've got a TBS-6205 (Quad-Tuner) which works beautifully, but i don't have any additional free PCIe slot.

yeah, CHBMB is (one of) the fastest here. new release + compile time ~= DVB Edition.

ya, had these good results as well. well...

i certainly won't make it in time before all the christmas days are over. but then, i'll try a shot at the devs. @saarg: please be prepared and (hopefully) find a little time to help me out, when they get back to me with questions, i can't answer but anyway, i can't imagine, that over at least 1,5 years in time this bug has stopped the full potential of TVH (for all docker installations around the world) and nobody (nor the developers for themselves) got a hold of it. but then, maybe not too much dockers are based on Alpine Linux? i got no idea, what is (if it exists in any way) the commonly used linux distribution for dockers; or let's rephrase that to: which is the most used linux distro for TVH dockers? if this doesn't show the bug, they probably don't care.

certainly, but how likely (in the light how long this 'bug' exists) this is?

hmm… no reaction (beside himisk71)? dare i ask the logical question? would it be possible to get a docker version of TVHeadend, based (like tested) on Ubuntu, or any other distribution (of docker builders choice) which fits the obvious glibc requirement? i (and i'm sure a big bunch of other users) would absolutely appreciate this effort, as we all get a fully functional TVHeadend. and… as a side benefit to the linuxserver.io team, no more questions about these crashes (so no one could think, it's a defect in the docker provided). wouldn't that be a great christmas present to the unRAID community? as a reminder to all users who benefit of the great generous work of the linuxserver.io team: they accept donations.