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2nd Drive results: preclear_start__43NPAKPYS_2013-09-25.txt preclear_rpt__43NPAKPYS_2013-09-25.txt preclear_finish__43NPAKPYS_2013-09-25.txt

Hey guys, it's been quite a while since I've added any drives to my array. I just finished preclearing a couple Toshiba PH3300U-1I72 3TB drives, here are the results. Everything seems okay to me, but I'm interested in other opinions. Thanks for the feedback! (2nd Drive results in next post) preclear_start__43NPB2HXS_2013-09-25.txt preclear_rpt__43NPB2HXS_2013-09-25.txt preclear_finish__43NPB2HXS_2013-09-25.txt

I considered that, but I would need a bigger switch. Currently all ports are being used by other devices. I had also considered bridging the Ubee gateway with my D-Link router and actually even tried it. I couldn't get it to work but didn't put much effort into it because in time a purchased modem will pay for itself by dropping the rental fee.

Ahh ok, makes sense dgaschk, bottle necked by the modem. I'll replace this Ubee with a standalone modem and my router that I know will support gigabit then. Problem solved.

Interesting... Look at the claim of 1000 directly on Ubee's website - http://www.ubeeinteractive.com/products/cable/ddw2600 Regardless, I'm going to just go with a standalone modem and router. Never did care for the router part of an all-in-one gateway. If it truly doesn't support a gigabit connection that at least explains the unRAID server and two other PC's connected directly to it only pulling 100. My HTPC which first passes through a gigabit switch before hitting the Ubee DDW2600 modem however appears to be pulling a gigabit connection. If the DDW2600 cannot achieve that, is it safe to assume the HTPC is falsely reporting 1000 and only actually pulling up to 10/100? I'll likely go with this Motorola SB6141 - http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SurfBoard-SB6141-DOCSIS-Cable/dp/B007IMPMW4 It's the only Docsis 3.0 device that isn't a gateway on Time Warner Cables approved devices list. The router I have isn't bad, it at least supports a gigabit connection - D-Link DIR-655 (http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/dir-655-wireless-n-gigabit-router)

Looks like ethtool eth0 did the trick. Now, it's showing a non gigabit connection as I feared... only 100Mb/s unfortunately. I'm trying to determine what is causing this. The NIC and gateway supports a gigabit connection. What might I be able to do to utilize a gigabit connection? Other information that may be useful - I just relocated so I'm going through a bit of a re-setup phase. I noticed my HTPC is reporting a gigabit connection, my main pc is not. The HTPC does happen to be passing through a gigabit switch, and the main pc is plugged directly into the gateway (Ubee DDW2600). According to Ubee's website, this model all four ports support a gigabit connection. I'm wondering why no computer, my unRAID server included that is connected directly to the Ubee gateway will pick up a gigabit connection, only the HTPC passing through the gigabit switch... Any ideas?

Is there a command I can type to verify if unRAID is using a gigabit connection? I checked ifconfig eth0 but it doesn't seem to give me that information, that or it's in a format unfamiliar to me.

Given the fact that UnRAID has spin down, will the POH (Power-On Hours) 8760 Hours/Year really mean that much? There are definitely other great aspects to these drives such as the lower power consumption and cooler operational temperatures but in terms of reliability, are these WD Red drives really positioned to be the next big thing for unRAID users? Don't get me wrong, these drives appear stellar. I'm just wondering with the way that unRAID operates if we stand to gain much in terms of reliability / longevity of our drives.

Wordpad seems to format a little better as well heffneil. Quick question regarding one of my drives. This used to be my parity drive and I decided to go with a 3TB drive instead for parity so that I can use larger than 2TB drives for data in the future. I followed your instructions listed here Joe - http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=6126.msg58998#msg58998 I finished the preclear of my old parity drive successfully and out of curiosity decided to compare the results with the original ones some months ago since this is an existing drive from my array. Everything for the most part looked pretty similar except this time I noticed the following at the bottom of my start and end reports - SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Aborted by host 90% 3104 - # 2 Extended offline Aborted by host 80% 3029 - Should I be alarmed by this? Is this drive ok or is it on it's way out already? I've attached the preclear reports for this drive in the even any additional information is needed. preclear_start__5YD77WNB_2012-07-21.txt preclear_rpt__5YD77WNB_2012-07-21.txt preclear_finish__5YD77WNB_2012-07-21.txt

Thanks Rajahal, are you basing the statement on the Back-UPS Pro 1000 being sufficient on 15 7200rpm drives or a mix with green drives? I'm wanting to go full 3TB 7200's, eventually, and am sizing the UPS accordingly. I hate to keep what should be a closed issue open but I'm getting conflicting information. beckp seems to think that even the Back-UPS Pro 1300 would be marginal where you say the 1000 would be fine. The price difference between the two is significant, I want to make sure I'm buying the right one. Also, thank you for the attempt and breaking down the math behind it beckp. I did appreciate the effort unfortunately I fear I am not following what you're explaining. I had no idea power was this complex.

I've had good experiences with the Norco SS-500 5-in-3 Drive Cage. Here is a link to an excellent and thorough review on them over at Greenleaf - http://www.greenleaf-technology.com/blogs/softwareandhardware/index.php?id=2230660860939828125 I currently run three of them in my server and am satisfied. If you've looked through the thread on enclosures you've may have stumbled upon the bit about the stock fans for these. It isn't that they don't properly cool, they're just significantly louder than what most would care for. Unless you're keeping your server in a closet somewhere. The fan replacement was very simple and took maybe a total of 10 min to swap out all three, if not less. I can't comment on the quality of the other enclosures as I have not personally tested them. I would definitely give my stamp of approval on the Norco though.

Thanks a lot Frank and beck, I understood everything from both of you aside from one piece - Specifically the last part of that, I don't understand where this 812.5W comes from. I see that the efficiency at full load for the 1300 UPS is 87% per APC's website. Wouldn't that be 88% of the UPS itself? Meaning that it would be more like 780W * 0.87 meaning the UPS would handle up to 678.6W at full load? I was actually thinking the 1300 back-UPS pro would be a bit overkill but didn't see a model in between the 1000 and the 1300.

Thanks Frank, so I was looking at the wrong spec. Will my current PSU handle 15 3TB 7200rpm drives? I'm assuming so since its 650W and "it is actually the watts that count". Would someone mind breaking down a quick formula so I can know exactly what I'm looking for in the future? In terms of Watts Seagates site claims an average operating power of 8.0W for the ST3000DM001. That's all the information I can find on the drive. According to The Power Supply Thread a non green drive should be "3 amps (36 watts)". Is that still true? So we're looking at 540W for 15 3TB 7200rpm drives all spun up at the same time, correct? So the 1000VA should be sufficient since its 600W. But then you have the Mobo that supposedly draws 5 amps (60 watts) so now we're at exactly 600W. Given that UPSs will degrade over time shouldn't I be looking to over compensate just a little to ensure it can handle the full load down the road? Should I be looking into something more along the lines of this -APC Power-Saving Back-UPS Pro 1300 780 Watts / 1300 VA (http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1300G&total_watts=700 ) I didn't see an in between, I would think 650W would be a good point to hit. It isn't the concept of how many times can X fit into Y that's getting me. I guess it's the lack of information on HDDs when I look at the technical specifications and knowing what's actually relevant (VA, A, W, etc.)

I've been researching power and it's still a bit fuzzy to me. Would someone mind telling me if I can run 15 3TB 7200rpm drives with my current PSU and will my UPS handle it during a power outage? I'm wanting to begin buying 3TB drives due to the short life span of the green drives that I keep reading about plus the extra storage and speed will be nice. I also feel like green drives will be phased out eventually anyway. I'm currently running the following - - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020) - APC Back-Ups Pro 700 (http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR700G) Would I be able to safely/efficiently run 15x Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB 7200 RPM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148681) with no problem? If I'm understanding what I've been looking at correctly then I should be able to since my PSU is 53A and each of the previously mentioned HDD should be 3A so we're at 45A from the 15 drives, plus 5A for the mobo we should be ok at 50A correct? I'm not sure how to tell if my UPS can handle it, I would think it's more than enough but I'm really not sure... My UPS is 700VA. Any input is greatly appreciated.

I currently have 4 drives, 1 parity and 3 data. I prefer to have .nfo and image files for TV shows and movies locally on the hard drives along with each TV show or Movie. I'm currently using Shares (High-Water). As it stands my files are starting to feel... fragmented. As an example, I may have the actual TV show episode on disk 1 along with the images for it but the nfo for that episode resides on disk2 or disk3. My question is this (regarding performance) - Will it be in my best interest to keep all of the files corresponding to a particular movie or TV show episode on the same disk? I realize that shows in particular tend to continue, thus grow in size making it difficult to keep an entire show all on one disk. But would it be optimal to at least keep the image files, nfo and corresponding episode all on the same disk? Or will it really matter? My fear is that when my server reaches maximum capacity (15 drives) it would be less efficient both performance and energy wise if files for a larger TV show with several seasons were to end up scattered across several disks. Should I start manually moving files from each disk to the other to restore some sort of "order", change up my share in some way, or leave everything as is? Perhaps I went about setting up shares incorrectly? Or is everything fine as is and I need not worry? Here is an example of my setup if anyone cares to critique it - //unRAID [TV Shows] - [Adventure Time] -- [season 01] --- S1E01 - Slumber Party Panic - Trouble In Lumpy Space.mkv The above is set up as High-water allocation with a split level of 2 and min free space of 0. My Movie shares are also High-water allocation but they are a split level of 1 and min free space of 0.