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Default array/cache share configuration

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As mentioned, you should uninstall Mover Tuning. The version you have installed has been deprecated anyway. Also these

ca.mover.tuning.plg - 2023.12.19  (Deprecated)  (Up to date)
disklocation-master.plg - 2025.02.08  (Unknown to Community Applications)
folder.view.plg - 2024.10.02  (Update available: 2025.01.11.1)  (Incompatible)

 

 

  • Community Expert
20 hours ago, Nodiaque said:

System is the one that's about 650gb by itself

system                            shareUseCache="prefer"  # Share exists on cacheappdata

Probably you want appdata and some of those others mentioned moved to that same pool.

 

But first, I would like to try to understand why system share is so large. Normally, that user share only has docker.img (yours is 60G which might be reasonable) and libvirt.img, which is default 1G and never any reason for that to be larger.

 

So, what do you get from command line with this?

ls -lah /mnt/cacheappdata/system

 

  • Author

folder view is the version compatible with my versino of unraid. That's why I can't update. It was update when I upgraded the server to my current version. But new version got out for 7.x and it started showing incompatible for the new version.

 

disklocation-master is just a simple app that give me a little gui of where the disk are physically installed. Maybe it was shutdown with 7.x

It's still active, even have an update in march located here: 

But I do see it cannot check for update right now. Might just have to install new version when I'll upgrade to 7.x.

 

All of these are to be checked when I'll jump to 7.x. But not what is causing the underlying issue though.

 

You might see a log of no more space or something. I ran mover during the night and /var/log filled up because of the logging which caused issue this morning. I disabled mover logging, stop/start the array to clear var/log and restarted mover so it move stuff back to cache to be able to run docker

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Just now, trurl said:
system                            shareUseCache="prefer"  # Share exists on cacheappdata

Probably you want appdata and some of those others mentioned moved to that same pool.

 

But first, I would like to try to understand why system share is so large. Normally, that user share only has docker.img (yours is 60G which might be reasonable) and libvirt.img, which is default 1G and never any reason for that to be larger.

 

So, what do you get from command line with this?

ls -lah /mnt/cacheappdata/system

 

 

Yes they will all move, now the problem is the system too large. My docker is set to use folder not img.

 

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  • Community Expert
1 minute ago, Nodiaque said:

My docker is set to use folder not img

Did you do this because docker.img kept growing?

 

docker.img (or docker folder) is for the executable code of the containers, and shouldn't really be growing except for a small amount when you install a new container. The usual reason this grows is because one or more containers are writing to paths that aren't mapped to host paths.

  • Author

I had an issue that I really can't remember and I was told to switch to folder and it solved the problem. Before that, I think I redid more then once the img which caused me to lose everything each time

 

edit: I do have an issue right now where I was asked to switch to img back. I have many docker that when I do stop in the webgui, it says error after the timeout but it still shutdown the docker. Using docker stop shutdown the docker nearly instant. But that's another topic.

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Just now, Nodiaque said:

switch to folder view and it solved the problem. Before that, I think I redid more then once the img which caused me to lose everything each time

switching to folder view probably didn't really solve the problem, it just hid it. No reason at all to lose everything when you recreate docker.img. Previous Apps will put them back just as they were.

 

What do you get from command line with this?

du -h -d 1 /mnt/cacheappdata/system

 

  • Author

ouf, sit back, take a beer, coffee or whatever drink float your boat. This command will take time. Running it

  • Author

oh it was faster then I though

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  • Community Expert

I don't know what remoteviewer is but it isn't taking significant space.

 

As you can see, your docker folder is the main problem.

 

Enable Docker in Settings. Then go to Docker page, click CONTAINER SIZE button at bottom, and post the result.

  • Author

Weirdly is that when I did the move, the cache drive had 380gb used space. I move it to the new folder and bam, it's now 700gb all the while docker was shutdown. Wild. I currently have mover running to put back appdata on ssd pool. I'm starting docker afterward to see if it still start or not.

  • Author

 

yeah, that's what I did each time. It is time consuming.

  • Community Expert

That time consuming process is probably what I am going to suggest to get your docker.img under control. Maybe if we can figure out which containers are filling it up you won't need to do it again.

 

I have about 20 containers and they easily fit in 20G docker.img. No way even 100 containers should take over 600G

  • Author

Nah I know it's not normal, it wasn't taking anything near that before I move them to the new pool while offline. I never boot them back since I did the move. Doing it right now to see at least if they work.

 

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  • Author

ok, so everything is working fine. Although I don't like the 70C on my nvme drive though.

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  • Community Expert
2 hours ago, trurl said:

Enable Docker in Settings. Then go to Docker page, click CONTAINER SIZE button at bottom, and post the result.

 

  • Author

I wanted to upgrade some share cause some point to cache directly, and I get a btrfs snapshot error

 

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Name                                            Container                Writable                 Log

CodeProject.AI_ServerGPU                        25.6 GB                  14.1 GB                  8.31 MB
CloudflareBypassForScraping                     5.71 GB                  1.62 GB                  6.60 kB
immich                                          5.62 GB                  80.4 MB                  496 kB
homeassistant                                   3.43 GB                  1.60 GB                  23.8 kB
sonarr                                          3.13 GB                  1.23 GB                  1.04 MB
calibre                                         2.94 GB                  34.4 kB                  23.7 kB
FileFlows                                       2.69 GB                  786 MB                   134 kB
duplicati                                       2.44 GB                  1.97 GB                  82.8 kB
ConanExiles                                     2.37 GB                  3.16 MB                  4.63 MB
V-Rising                                        2.35 GB                  0 B                      120 MB
calibre-web-automated                           2.21 GB                  333 MB                   819 kB
Enshrouded                                      2.18 GB                  2.69 MB                  5.20 MB
epicgames-freegames                             1.54 GB                  30.6 MB                  427 kB
nextcloud                                       1.39 GB                  267 MB                   20.5 kB
Jellyfin                                        1.27 GB                  22.1 MB                  6.21 MB
LyrionMusicServer                               1.11 GB                  0 B                      120 MB
free-games-claimer                              1.03 GB                  0 B                      120 MB
spotizerr                                       1.02 GB                  2.69 kB                  2.29 kB
emulatorjs                                      866 MB                   0 B                      120 MB
calibre-web-automated-book-downloader           863 MB                   37.2 MB                  3.52 MB
calibre-web-automated-book-downloader-fr        863 MB                   37.1 MB                  3.52 MB
LMS                                             859 MB                   339 MB                   7.12 kB
youtube-dl-material                             806 MB                   115 MB                   51.4 kB
openHAB                                         799 MB                   124 MB                   496 kB
flaresolverr                                    709 MB                   162 kB                   2.29 MB
postgresql_immich                               692 MB                   63 B                     31.4 kB
Emby                                            679 MB                   4.54 MB                  1.05 MB
All-The-Mods-9                                  675 MB                   0 B                      466 kB
grafana                                         663 MB                   0 B                      858 kB
swag                                            658 MB                   254 MB                   105 kB
code-server                                     629 MB                   25.1 kB                  56.6 kB
NodeRed                                         601 MB                   0 B                      1.66 MB
unifi-network-application                       591 MB                   58.2 kB                  46.2 kB
romm                                            562 MB                   2.48 kB                  2.81 MB
telegraf                                        551 MB                   30.4 MB                  147 kB
cups                                            530 MB                   12.6 kB                  1.14 kB
hydroqc2mqtt                                    495 MB                   0 B                      8.16 MB
GameVault                                       470 MB                   2.27 MB                  8.82 MB
mariadb-nextcloud                               465 MB                   0 B                      50.9 kB
UptimeKuma                                      440 MB                   217 kB                   860 kB
postgresql15-gamevault                          429 MB                   63 B                     926 kB
unifi-bd                                        427 MB                   0 B                      9.10 MB
Influxdb                                        406 MB                   0 B                      4.07 MB
bazarr                                          396 MB                   76.3 kB                  8.88 MB
GameManBot                                      366 MB                   0 B                      1.17 MB
ombi                                            340 MB                   43.0 kB                  1.60 MB
mariadb                                         336 MB                   2 B                      325 kB
RedisInsight                                    304 MB                   0 B                      282 B
jackett                                         292 MB                   113 MB                   339 kB
MQTTExplorer                                    282 MB                   0 B                      26.5 kB
MKVToolNix                                      268 MB                   20.9 kB                  180 kB
MediaInfo                                       213 MB                   42.6 kB                  1.06 MB
radarr                                          207 MB                   22.6 kB                  8.50 MB
qbittorrent                                     196 MB                   23.1 kB                  13.2 kB
QDirStat                                        184 MB                   33.2 kB                  495 kB
prowlarr                                        183 MB                   22.7 kB                  1.12 MB
Palworld                                        164 MB                   42.6 MB                  42.1 kB
cross-seed                                      164 MB                   0 B                      3.40 MB
Speedtest                                       148 MB                   122 B                    988 kB
redis-nextcloud                                 145 MB                   109 kB                   120 kB
redis                                           144 MB                   109 kB                   344 kB
RustDeskServer-AiO                              143 MB                   4.37 kB                  430 kB
pihole                                          138 MB                   48.2 MB                  147 kB
OpenTTD                                         126 MB                   0 B                      120 MB
adminer                                         121 MB                   23.1 kB                  6.85 kB
jellyplex-watched                               118 MB                   15.1 MB                  835 kB
netbootxyz                                      118 MB                   23.4 kB                  40.7 kB
evcc                                            102 MB                   0 B                      4.14 MB
qbit_manage                                     97.2 MB                  271 kB                   818 kB
authelia                                        72.4 MB                  199 B                    698 kB
dockersocket                                    19.3 MB                  4.10 kB                  142 kB
unpackerr                                       16.2 MB                  0 B                      4.32 MB
mosquitto                                       9.90 MB                  57 B                     4.56 kB
nebula-sync                                     6.13 MB                  0 B                      234 kB
Total size                                      89.2 GB                  23.2 GB                  717 MB

 

 

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  • Author

I'm going to clear my docker folder. I think it's the best thing to just recreate it.

  • Community Expert

Why do you have both LMS and LyrionMusicServer? Or is LMS something else? I used LMS for years but switched recently and after a little time figuring out Lyrion I got rid of LMS. It only serves music to my Squeezebox Radio Alarm clock.

 

Your sonarr seems too large. On my system, radarr and sonarr are similar in size.

 

You have many I haven't tried, and some others I have but in the end decided I didn't need them.

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LYrion is offline. I tried lyrion to replace lms and it wasn't working at all. So I just kept it to update later and try switching back. Only LMS is used for now.

 

My sonarr is handling over 3000 tv shows while my radarr only 1000, that might be why. 

 

edit: I think radarr and sonarr here are not from the same person, might have different base. I'll check once I restore everything. Still waiting on the delete to finish

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  • Community Expert
Just now, Nodiaque said:

My sonarr is handling over 3000 tv shows while my radarr only 1000, that might be why. 

I'm about the opposite, movies vs tv.

  • Author

cannot say. Maybe database bigger because of the number of files (tv shows have way more files then movies). If you think put a medium of 10 episodes per series and 1 season each, it give 30 000 video file (plus all the extra file). But since many have way more then 10 episodes and more then 1 seasons, this number is shy from the truth. Although now that I think of it, the database should be in the appdata like the log file. I don't know. Maybe indexer temp. Anyway, it's deleting right now.

  • Community Expert
11 minutes ago, Nodiaque said:

the database should be in the appdata

This is generally true for all containers. Working data in appdata, with additional mappings to access other storage on the host for reading and writing. docker.img (or folder) should mostly just be the downloaded installation of the code for the application.

 

Maybe some dockers don't behave nicely and do things in the recommended way. Maybe some have working data scattered all over the internal OS.

 

But the troubleshooting link I posted above has things to pay special attention to when specifying paths in the docker template (installation) and paths within the application.

 

Within an application, if a path is specified that is not in a container volume which is mapped to a host volume, then that path is inside docker.img. Container and Host volume paths must begin with /, and are case-sensitive.

 

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