August 18, 2025Aug 18 Hello all I am a first time user of Unraid on a new system I built from scratch. I'm not sure what information you guys require to help but here's what I think will be helpful. Please let me know exactly what debug information/logs will be helpful in you guys finding out the cause of my problems. I've tried a few things already that Gemini AI and other forums suggested--I'll share them below.ProblemI noticed that when I built new docker containers the log showed that it was fast to download, the extracting of each file when pulling the image took much longer than it did on my old Docker Desktop setup on Windows (i.e. nginx-proxy-manager took 5+ minutes). Then I went and used mc to transfer a 10GB linux iso from my NVMe to my SATA pool to see the file transfer speed and it capped at around 59MB/s. I noticed it was around 25MB/s when I was using Unbalanced but I don't have a screenshot of that.Here is a transfer that stays within the NVMe drive only (CoW disabled). It maxed out at 70MB/sDiagnostics zip fileoracle-diagnostics-20250818-1435.ziporacle is the name of my server :)HardwareCPU: AMD Ryzen 5700XMotherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max running latest BIOS version (7C02v3K released 2025-04-30)PCI_E1: (GPU) Intel Arc A380PCI_E2: EmptyPCI_E3: EmptyPCI_E4: (LSI HBA) - INSPUR 9211-8i YZCA-00019-101/102 6Gbps(4) 3.5" HDDs connected: sdg, sdd, sde, sdfPCI_E5: EmptyM2_1: Teamgroup 1TB NVMe (nvme0n1)SATA1: Samsung 850 EVO (sdb) - connected to power and sata using this cableSATA2: PNY CS900 500GB (sdc) - connected to power and sata using this cableRAM: (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz Patriot Viper SteelArrayI have my appdata and system shares stored on cache-nvme and have nothing on cache-sata.lspci -vv (command)The log is incredibly long so here is the Gemini analysis of it (the LnkSta part) to check if this is a bandwidth issue on my motherboardEnd Devices (Your Cards and Controllers) These are the actual components you've plugged in. * 01:00.0 - NVMe SSD (SM2263XT): * LnkSta: Speed 8GT/s, Width x4 * Status: Perfect. Running at its maximum PCIe 3.0 x4 speed. * 22:00.0 - Ethernet Controller (Realtek RTL8111): * LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1 * Status: Perfect. Running at its maximum PCIe 2.0 x1 speed. * 25:00.0 - LSI HBA (SAS2008): * LnkSta: Speed 5GT/s, Width x4 (downgraded) * Status: Bottlenecked. The card is capable of x8 width but is running at x4 because that is the physical limit of the motherboard slot it's in. * 28:00.0 - GPU (Intel Arc A380): * LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1 * Status: Power-saving mode. This is an idle speed. Under load, it should increase to match its bridge speed of 8GT/s, Width x8.I know my LSI HBA (9211-8i) is only capable of a max of 2000MB/s but I figured that's okay considering I only plan on plugging up to (8) 3.5" HDDs on this and all HDDs will rarely be active at the same time. Do you think this could be causing my issues and that I should upgrade to a more modern HBA (9300)?DiskSpeed (docker container)Here is what DiskSpeed Docker (from the CA store) showed me:I have no idea why Disk 3 has such high speeds if its an identical model to disk 4 and is a 2.5" 5400 1TB Laptop HDD. This shows my NVMe and SSDs are capable of much higher performance than I am seeing in the real world with my Unraid setup (even tho the NVMe speeds should be much higher IMO)Here is the full (compressed) DiskSpeed Debug File: https://drive.google.com/file/d/16LWRh3GjQDJv_iu5S3M5qWjjowrLfv3q/view?usp=drive_linkFio-Tester (docker container)Here's what Fio-Tester (docker container from CA store) showed me (I only tested the NVMe)/ # fio --name=nvme_benchmark --filename=/mnt/cache-nvme/fio_test_file --ioengine=libaio --rw=randrw --rwmixread=70 --bs=4k -- iodepth=64 --size=16G --direct=1 --numjobs=4 --runtime=120 --group_reporting nvme_benchmark: (g=0): rw=randrw, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=libaio, iodepth=64 ... fio-3.36 Starting 4 processes nvme_benchmark: Laying out IO file (1 file / 16384MiB) Jobs: 4 (f=4): [m(4)][100.0%][r=13.1MiB/s,w=5969KiB/s][r=3351,w=1492 IOPS][eta 00m:00s] nvme_benchmark: (groupid=0, jobs=4): err= 0: pid=63: Mon Aug 18 18:03:56 2025 read: IOPS=3356, BW=13.1MiB/s (13.7MB/s)(1573MiB/120002msec) slat (usec): min=85, max=4192.5k, avg=638.71, stdev=11458.18 clat (usec): min=509, max=4269.3k, avg=52417.60, stdev=87852.88 lat (usec): min=625, max=4269.9k, avg=53056.31, stdev=88608.00 clat percentiles (msec): | 1.00th=[ 31], 5.00th=[ 37], 10.00th=[ 40], 20.00th=[ 43], | 30.00th=[ 46], 40.00th=[ 48], 50.00th=[ 51], 60.00th=[ 53], | 70.00th=[ 55], 80.00th=[ 58], 90.00th=[ 63], 95.00th=[ 67], | 99.00th=[ 77], 99.50th=[ 81], 99.90th=[ 104], 99.95th=[ 133], | 99.99th=[ 4245] bw ( KiB/s): min= 9000, max=17088, per=100.00%, avg=13893.91, stdev=319.60, samples=924 iops : min= 2250, max= 4272, avg=3473.11, stdev=79.92, samples=924 write: IOPS=1442, BW=5768KiB/s (5907kB/s)(676MiB/120002msec); 0 zone resets slat (usec): min=161, max=4191.4k, avg=1195.76, stdev=10113.33 clat (usec): min=24, max=4267.4k, avg=52740.01, stdev=89704.28 lat (usec): min=1507, max=4269.5k, avg=53935.77, stdev=90285.65 clat percentiles (msec): | 1.00th=[ 32], 5.00th=[ 37], 10.00th=[ 40], 20.00th=[ 44], | 30.00th=[ 46], 40.00th=[ 48], 50.00th=[ 51], 60.00th=[ 53], | 70.00th=[ 56], 80.00th=[ 58], 90.00th=[ 63], 95.00th=[ 67], | 99.00th=[ 77], 99.50th=[ 81], 99.90th=[ 105], 99.95th=[ 136], | 99.99th=[ 4245] bw ( KiB/s): min= 4088, max= 7517, per=100.00%, avg=5969.81, stdev=140.76, samples=924 iops : min= 1022, max= 1877, avg=1492.09, stdev=35.19, samples=924 lat (usec) : 50=0.01%, 250=0.01%, 750=0.01%, 1000=0.01% lat (msec) : 2=0.01%, 4=0.01%, 10=0.01%, 20=0.02%, 50=49.36% lat (msec) : 100=50.50%, 250=0.07%, >=2000=0.04% cpu : usr=3.26%, sys=35.49%, ctx=670984, majf=0, minf=47 IO depths : 1=0.1%, 2=0.1%, 4=0.1%, 8=0.1%, 16=0.1%, 32=0.1%, >=64=100.0% submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.1%, >=64=0.0% issued rwts: total=402769,173053,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0 latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=64 Run status group 0 (all jobs): READ: bw=13.1MiB/s (13.7MB/s), 13.1MiB/s-13.1MiB/s (13.7MB/s-13.7MB/s), io=1573MiB (1650MB), run=120002-120002msec WRITE: bw=5768KiB/s (5907kB/s), 5768KiB/s-5768KiB/s (5907kB/s-5907kB/s), io=676MiB (709MB), run=120002-120002msecGemini is saying this result is extremely poor and is suggesting it is because it is DRAM-less. Could it be true that just because the drive is DRAM-less it has such poor performance of 13.7MB/s read and 5.9MB/s write?hdparm (command)I also tried hdparm. Not sure if it's a good tool for benchmarking SSDs but here ya go.root@oracle:~# hdparm -tT /dev/nvme0n1 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde /dev/sdf /dev/sdg /dev/nvme0n1: Timing cached reads: 1764 MB in 1.99 seconds = 885.82 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 404 MB in 3.00 seconds = 134.61 MB/sec /dev/sdb: Timing cached reads: 1850 MB in 1.99 seconds = 928.27 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 418 MB in 3.00 seconds = 139.31 MB/sec /dev/sdc: Timing cached reads: 1860 MB in 1.99 seconds = 933.55 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 416 MB in 3.01 seconds = 138.30 MB/sec /dev/sdd: Timing cached reads: 1774 MB in 1.99 seconds = 890.31 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 380 MB in 3.11 seconds = 122.23 MB/sec /dev/sde: Timing cached reads: 1852 MB in 1.99 seconds = 929.97 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 316 MB in 3.02 seconds = 104.47 MB/sec /dev/sdf: Timing cached reads: 1756 MB in 1.99 seconds = 881.09 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 348 MB in 3.14 seconds = 110.66 MB/sec /dev/sdg: Timing cached reads: 1802 MB in 1.99 seconds = 904.20 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 380 MB in 3.05 seconds = 124.61 MB/secPlease let me know if I can include any further information to help you determine why my speeds are so slow and how I can fix them. Thank you very much! Edited August 18, 2025Aug 18 by dinosaurthug added MC transfer screenshot within NVMe drive only
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Author Sorry to ask for your help directly but I see you are very knowledgeable and active in this forum helping others @JorgeB I will gladly tip you if you can help me find out what's wrong! This goes for anyone else too! Because my docker containers feel sooo slow and the point of moving from windows was to have a waaay more speedy system. Thank you!For reference, when installing nginx proxy manager, the pulling took maybe 5-7 seconds, but this extracting of each fs layer took 10+ minutes! There must be something wrong in my setup or maybe even my hardware? Edited August 19, 2025Aug 19 by dinosaurthug
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Community Expert My first suggestion would be to separate both SATA devices into individual pools, then test with pv and a large file:pv /path/to/large/file > /path/to/dest
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Author root@oracle:~# pv /mnt/cache-sata/11GB-test.mkv > /mnt/cache-sata-pny/11GB-test.mkv10.3GiB 0:02:59 [58.9MiB/s] [==============================================================================>] 100% It ranged from 40-72MiB/s Edited August 19, 2025Aug 19 by dinosaurthug full output after completion
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Author Pretty much the same the other way around, yesroot@oracle:~# pv /mnt/cache-sata-pny/11GB-test.mkv > /mnt/cache-sata/11GB-test.mkv10.3GiB 0:03:07 [56.1MiB/s] [==============================================================================>] 100%
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Author 8 hours ago, JorgeB said:My first suggestion would be to separate both SATA devices into individual pools, then test with pv and a large file:pv /path/to/large/file > /path/to/destDo you think I need to adjust some BIOS settings?Could there be something wrong with my HBA?Was there anything concerning in my diagnostics file? oracle-diagnostics-20250818-1435.zip Edited August 19, 2025Aug 19 by dinosaurthug added diagnostics file, spell check
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Author I'm not sure if TRIM is performed by default so I went to scheduler and performed TRIM and here was the output:TRIM operation started/mnt/cache-nvme: 918.5 GiB (986214191104 bytes) trimmed on /dev/nvme0n1p1/mnt/cache-sata: 453.5 GiB (486957527040 bytes) trimmed on /dev/sdb1/var/lib/docker: 22.5 GiB (24147529728 bytes) trimmed on /dev/loop2/var/lib/docker/btrfs: 1.1 GiB (1138626560 bytes) trimmed on /dev/loop2[/btrfs]/mnt/cache-sata-pny: 453.5 GiB (486910406656 bytes) trimmed on /dev/sdc1FinishedNot sure if that tells us anything. But I did this command right after doing that and was still at a very low transfer speed for SSDs (70MiB/s)root@oracle:~# pv /mnt/cache-sata/11GB-test.mkv > /mnt/cache-nvme/11GB-test.mkv10.3GiB 0:02:33 [68.8MiB/s] [==============================================================================>] 100%
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Community Expert Nothing jumps out in the diags. Since you don't have parity, copy a large file from disk2 to disk1 with pv and post the results. Make sure nothing else is accessing the disks during the test.
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Author The command you wanted (I accidentally did disk1 > disk2 hope thats ok):root@oracle:~# pv /mnt/disk1/11GB-test.mkv > /mnt/disk2/11GB-test.mkv10.3GiB 0:02:34 [68.3MiB/s] [==============================================================================>] 100%
August 19, 2025Aug 19 Author Here's an additonal diagnostics file I created during a transfer between my cache-sata and cache-sata-pny drives: oracle-diagnostics-20250819-1323.zip
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Author Bumping this up. I can see a stark performance contrast between my docker containers running on Unraid vs Docker Desktop on Windows 11. That should not be happening haha. I'm gonna look in the BIOS later tonight and will post here if I find anything that may be related.
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Author Even the CA store knows something is wrong oh this is so frustrating uhhhh 🤕
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Community Expert See if you check the real time CPU frequency to make sure it's ramping up during usage.
August 20, 2025Aug 20 I would try following:unplug everything from mainboard except necessary minimum (leave there only one m.2 SSD, one RAM module, no PCI cards, ...)do MemTest (boot from USB flash) However I'm not sure which one is better, I know there are 2 (or more): • https://www.memtest86.com/, • https://memtest.org/, • https://www.techpowerup.com/memtest64/- repeat with 2 RAM modulesdo copy / transfer testsadd one more HW component, repeat step aboveTry other things too if issue still persists:reset BIOS settingstry to explain everyting to ChatGPT and ask for solutions :D
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Author 6 hours ago, JorgeB said:See if you check the real time CPU frequency to make sure it's ramping up during usage.I definitely see CPU usage spike when doing tasks. Not sure if its supposed to spike this high tho?
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Community Expert Open a terminal window and type watch grep MHz /proc/cpuinfoThen see if the freq goes to the expected up during usage
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Author 8 minutes ago, JorgeB said:Open a terminal window and type watch grep MHz /proc/cpuinfoThen see if the freq goes to the expected up during usageThe values ranged from 530 to 550 at the highest when I stopped the docker service and then started it
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Community Expert That explains the issue, CPU is not clocking up. Look for a BIOS update and/or reset CMOS. Are you using any plugins to set the CPU power level?
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Author 2 minutes ago, JorgeB said:That explains the issue, CPU is not clicking up. Look for a BIOS update and/or reset CMOS. Are you using any plugins to set the CPU power level?I have the latest BIOS installed for the board version 7C02v3K. Do you think its worth installing again?Will try resetting the CMOS later tonight. That means just remove the battery, wait 10 seconds, and then put it back in right?I don't think I'm using any plugins that affect the power level because I made sure not to change any settings I don't know much about. Although I've noticed the temp of the CPU never ever goes above 32 C. I was attributing that to my noctua cooler and that I placed it in my basement, but now that you mention it, it does seem fishy.Woow okay I think you may be onto something. I ran this command first (per Gemini) to stress all 16 of my cores:for i in {1..16}; do yes > /dev/null & doneThe unraid dashboard confirmed the cpu usage was fullThen here is the output of your command watch grep MHz /proc/cpuinfoIt never went above 550.00 when it should be going up to 4650 right (AMD Ryzen 5700X)?Every 2.0s: grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo oracle: 12:17:24 PMin 0.484s (0)cpu MHz : 531.385cpu MHz : 531.560cpu MHz : 531.839cpu MHz : 531.467cpu MHz : 531.760cpu MHz : 531.595cpu MHz : 531.489cpu MHz : 531.300cpu MHz : 531.912cpu MHz : 532.009cpu MHz : 531.562cpu MHz : 531.662cpu MHz : 531.847cpu MHz : 531.839cpu MHz : 532.052cpu MHz : 531.930 Edited August 20, 2025Aug 20 by dinosaurthug
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Author root@oracle:~# cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governorperformanceroot@oracle:~# lscpu | grep MHzCPU(s) scaling MHz: 12%CPU max MHz: 4663.0000CPU min MHz: 550.0000^ This confirms the CPU governor is set to performance so it must be either a BIOS issue or hardware right?Gemini tells me this could be related to BIOS settings. Do you have a list of recommended settings to check in the BIOS. Here is what I have so far:Go to Settings > Advanced > Integrated Peripherals and set SATA Mode to AHCI Mode.Go to Settings > Advanced > Windows OS Configuration and set BIOS UEFI/CSM Mode to UEFI.Core Performance Boost (CPB): This is the most critical setting. If this is disabled, your CPU will not boost past its base clock and can get stuck in low power states. This must be set to Enabled or Auto.Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO): This should also be Enabled or Auto.Global C-state Control: Ensure this is Enabled or Auto. Disabling it can sometimes cause frequency issues.Power Saving / Eco-Mode: Double-check that no "Eco-Mode" is enabled that would severely limit the CPU's power draw.
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Community Expert 2 minutes ago, dinosaurthug said:so it must be either a BIOS issue or hardware right?I think so.
August 20, 2025Aug 20 Author 1 minute ago, JorgeB said:I think so.I appreciate your help very much. I will check my BIOS later tonight and update here. Hopefully that fixes all my issues!
August 21, 2025Aug 21 Author Looking into my BIOS settings and changing everything to what was recommended did not fix anything unfortunately. The only different setting was global c state control which I then enabled but no difference was made. While I do think you solved this (definitely a hardware issue related to the PC) I'm going to confirm by going to Micro Center tomorrow and selectively replace the PSU, CPU, and Mobo until it works. Will update here.Either the: mobo does not have good enough VRM to ramp up powerthe CPU has some fault (messed up pins or has been overclocked too much by previous owner)the PSU is faulty or the cable is faultyAll three of the above parts were purchased used on eBay.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 were purchased used on eBay.it explains a lot, I think it's most probably HW issue. I would try to change PSU first, then CPU and then Mobo.Please inform later when you change HW.
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