bubbaQ Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 First off, glad you got this far. Second, the config that ships with unRAID will not boot on a C3. Did you go through make menuconfig and change the appropriate drivers? IIRC, "mdState not found" means the unRAID drivers and MD mods are not in the kernel. Did you copy all the drivers from unRAID to your usr/src tree? Are you booting from the kernel compiled with them? Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 15, 2008 Author Share Posted June 15, 2008 Thanks for the reply. I used the .config from the the USB and went into the drivers section in menuconfig. I will double check when I get home today. Thanks! Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 Here is an ls of the uraid directory I got the drivers from and the source dir I compiled in. root@brainNAS:~# ls -al /usr/src/linux/drivers/md/ total 1260 drwxrwxr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-06-14 11:18 ./ drwxrwxr-x 76 root root 4096 2008-06-14 11:09 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 88 2008-06-14 11:00 .built-in.o.cmd -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 51 2008-03-24 11:49 .gitignore -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 128 2008-06-14 11:18 .md-mod.ko.cmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11701 2008-06-14 11:18 .md-mod.mod.o.cmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 135 2008-06-14 11:00 .md-mod.o.cmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20203 2008-06-14 11:00 .md.o.cmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20221 2008-06-14 11:00 .unraid.o.cmd -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20349 2008-06-14 11:00 .xor.o.cmd -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 346 2008-06-14 00:55 Kconfig -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 118 2008-06-14 00:55 Makefile -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 41625 2008-03-24 11:49 bitmap.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8 2008-06-14 11:00 built-in.o -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1670 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-bio-list.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1096 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-bio-record.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 26241 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-crypt.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 8210 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-delay.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 8228 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-emc.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 16195 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-exception-store.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4385 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-hw-handler.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1617 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-hw-handler.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 10638 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-io.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1861 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-io.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 31852 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-ioctl.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 2961 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-linear.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 16832 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-log.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3424 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-log.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 6411 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-mpath-hp-sw.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 16530 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-mpath-rdac.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 32519 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-mpath.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 497 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-mpath.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 2629 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-path-selector.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 2401 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-path-selector.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 32716 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-raid1.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4635 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-round-robin.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 28471 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-snap.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3793 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-snap.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4980 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-stripe.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 21705 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-table.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3265 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-target.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 5526 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-uevent.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1678 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-uevent.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1535 2008-03-24 11:49 dm-zero.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 32972 2008-03-24 11:49 dm.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 5102 2008-03-24 11:49 dm.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 8436 2008-03-24 11:49 faulty.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 14159 2008-03-24 11:49 kcopyd.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1107 2008-03-24 11:49 kcopyd.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 10810 2008-03-24 11:49 linear.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52656 2008-06-14 11:18 md-mod.ko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 456 2008-06-14 11:18 md-mod.mod.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1632 2008-06-14 11:18 md-mod.mod.o -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 51814 2008-06-14 11:00 md-mod.o -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 56386 2008-06-14 00:55 md.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26196 2008-06-14 11:00 md.o -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10181 2008-06-14 00:55 md_private.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 2871 2008-03-24 11:49 mktables.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 14486 2008-03-24 11:49 multipath.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 14233 2008-03-24 11:49 raid0.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 58965 2008-03-24 11:49 raid1.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 59735 2008-03-24 11:49 raid10.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 135988 2008-03-24 11:49 raid5.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3957 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6.h -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4035 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6algos.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3330 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6altivec.uc -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 2797 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6int.uc -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3895 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6mmx.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3491 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6recov.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 4976 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6sse1.c -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 8535 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6sse2.c drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6test/ -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 1680 2008-03-24 11:49 raid6x86.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43039 2008-06-14 00:55 unraid.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13648 2008-06-14 11:00 unraid.o -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 492 2008-03-24 11:49 unroll.pl -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3627 2008-06-14 00:55 xor.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14532 2008-06-14 11:00 xor.o root@brainNAS:~# ls -al /uraid/usr/src/linux/drivers/md/ total 136 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-06-14 00:53 ./ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-06-14 00:53 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 346 2008-06-11 20:52 Kconfig -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 118 2008-06-11 20:52 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 56386 2008-06-11 20:52 md.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10181 2008-06-11 20:52 md_private.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43039 2008-06-11 20:52 unraid.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3627 2008-06-11 20:52 xor.c I then noticed this log was referenced, when I checked it out: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.24.4-unRAID/modules.dep: No such file or directory There are no directories no in /lib/modules for the kernel, so I copied them from the USB and changed some symlinks within to point to MY /usr/src/linux-2.6.24.4-unraid-special/ directory. Now when I run emhttp I get: ERROR: Module md_mod does not exist in /proc/modules FATAL: Error inserting md_mod (/lib/modules/2.6.24.4-unRAID/kernel/drivers/md/md-mod.ko): Invalid module format I did some googling, not much to be found, so I am recompiling the kernel, to make sure that this wasn't part of the "make modules" that somehow was skipped. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment
josetann Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Just a quick idea before I head to bed. You need to type the commands in my how-to exactly. After you compile the kernel you need to: make modules to make the modules. Then you need to: make modules_install Don't just type "make modules install", you have to have the _ there. Else you'll end up compiling the modules, but not actually installing them. Of course then you'll need to make sure you edit /etc/lilo.conf properly, then run lilo -v for the changes to take affect. Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 So, several more kernels later, I ran dmesg and saw this: md_mod: version magic '2.6.24.4-unRAID mod_unload PENTIUM4 ' should be '2.6.24.4-unRAID mod_unload CYRIXIII Its referencing the modules that come with the unraid install zip. (The ones I copied over before I realized these should be installed during the compile). So I am using the "make module install" command. But I don't believe its creating the modules. They should be put in /lib/modules right? I want to try a few more fresh starts, but its starting to look like more trouble than its worth. =) That error message raises some questions, however: * Does anyone know if the newer VIA processor, namely the C7, is considered compatible and would work out of the gate? I'm also looking at the AMD Geode processors. But I like the VIA solutions, (Dual 1GB NICs, etc.) * If the modules that come packaged with unraid are for a P4, then how does a Athlon run this from the USB? Thanks again for all the help! Just a quick idea before I head to bed. You need to type the commands in my how-to exactly. After you compile the kernel you need to: make modules to make the modules. Then you need to: make modules_install Don't just type "make modules install", you have to have the _ there. Else you'll end up compiling the modules, but not actually installing them. Of course then you'll need to make sure you edit /etc/lilo.conf properly, then run lilo -v for the changes to take affect. I am not sure why they are not being installed. I feel like I have the most problematic install. Maybe ever. However, my process is a bit more streamlined now, I'll try a fresh install. However, this is one of the best learning experiences I have have in a very long time! Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment
bubbaQ Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 FWIW, I have run unRAID successfully on an AMD Geode. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 FWIW, I have run unRAID successfully on an AMD Geode. As have I on one of the Jetway ITX boards. Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 I want to thank you guys for your support! I am sure with time I would have gotten it to work, but this gives me an excuse to buy a new itx board I went with another VIA CPU - I searched the board and found out a C7 should work fine out of the box. I'm sure I'll be back with some more inane questions. thanks again! Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Before you buy that itx board, make sure the network adapter is supported. (or at the very least, make sure you are ready to tackle compiling the kernel if not). With my Jetway, the motherboard's network adapter was not supported. I bought a daughter board that had 3 Intel adapters and they worked without a hitch. OK it wasn't PCIe but it worked ;-) Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 So I bought the ITX board that day, got it in the mail today. The USB stick booted without issue. Even found the gigabit NICs. (I had more trouble with the generic kernel from slacky) I compiled the kernel to include my controller card and after a few typos, I have a working system. =) I want to thank you guys, couldn't have done it without you! Here is what I ended up buying: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813153072 Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share Posted June 20, 2008 Posterity post #1: When I tried to run httpd I received this error: [Fri Jun 20 08:41:48 2008] [crit] (38)Function not implemented: mod_rewrite: could not create rewrite_log_lock Configuration Failed Turns out this is caused by the unRAID .config missing a vital library - System V IPC. Enable it under General Setup - System V IPC, and recompile Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 What case are you using for this board? I was thinking of using a C7, but I heard they were slow. I ended up grabbing a Jetway with the AMD Geode chip which happen to be fast. What's the power draw on this system? Quote Link to comment
bubbaQ Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 A C7 miniITX doesn't make much sense for an unRAID server. You need a case that holds several drives, and hence no need for a miniITX form factor. Plus the miniITX has only 2 drive ports, so you will need multiple PCI cards, for which the miniITX has only 1 slot, and which will suck more power than on-board ports. There are C7's on microATX form factor mobos, that are a much better choice than a miniITX. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 I made one on mini itx it was designed for small size and low power consumption. To fit on a shelf. In my case, my main file repository was on my big workstation. I wanted to offload the file repository so that I could reboot my workstation at my liesier without having to worry about the sahred files. Plus moving my torrent downloads to the unraid server keeps it all in one nice package. I could have gone with openfiler which is much more mature but I like the idea of single drives/single filesystems and spindown. It's up to the builder to decide his uses and needs. http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=2031.msg14752#msg14752 Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 A C7 miniITX doesn't make much sense for an unRAID server. You need a case that holds several drives, and hence no need for a miniITX form factor. Plus the miniITX has only 2 drive ports, so you will need multiple PCI cards, for which the miniITX has only 1 slot, and which will suck more power than on-board ports. There are C7's on microATX form factor mobos, that are a much better choice than a miniITX. Like Weebo, I needed something small, relatively quiet and that has low power consumption. I like in a small condo with my fiance. Speed isn't a concern. I just don't want my mammoth desktop running all day. This is for my personal files, music and TV shows with the occasional move and system backup. I picked up a Silicon Image SATA controller and a 5 in 3. As far as the case, I had an old SCSI box, and after I through an old PSU in there there was JUST enough space for the ITX board. Threw and old DvD writer in there too. Speed wise, I have no complaints. Streaming HD to my Tivo is going well =) 1.5GHz and 1GB RAM seems good enough for now. I have 2x500GB drives and 2x250GB drives. Then I have an old 120GB IDE Drive where slack lives. I'll post some performance later for those interested =) Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Posterity Post #2 The fuse module did not seem to be included in the unRAID .config, so user shares weren't working. In menuconfig, its under Files Systems > File Systems in User Space Support Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I'll post some performance later for those interested =) I'm interested in what the power draw on idle is (if you have a kill-a-watt meter) Quote Link to comment
brain:proxy Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 I've been wanting a meter for a long time, so I finally got one =) Right now, its running at 52 watts, 90 when spun up. All drives except for the system drive spun down. I even compiled the CPU stepping drivers and have my CPU down to 400MHz from 1.2GHz, that really didn't make a difference at all =) Not sure how much more I could squeeze down, I want to keep the fans up. Not to bad IMHO, though. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 That's pretty good, but for some reason I expected it to use less power. Thanks for looking into that. I'll stay with my duo core 2. I get 40 watts when all is spun down. 2 WD green drives, 2 Maxtor 500GB drives, 4G ram, Core 2 Duo 2.33. "Mobile". FWIW, I stepped my 2.66 Core 2 DUO (not mobile) down to 1.6GHZ and it did not save any power. Too bad I can;t adjust the CPU voltage on my motherboard. I would underclock it. Quote Link to comment
bubbaQ Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Reducing the clock or multiplier on the CPU will not save you power... .you need to undervolt. Quote Link to comment
Torquewrench Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I think the OP needs to run "make modules_install". Quote Link to comment
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