January 28, 201412 yr $10 a month ain't happening here either, not for something that isn't producing income for me :-O BTW Grumpy I tried your solution for headless X on my desktop and failed - Ubuntu was my target and it was running a full desktop too. I REALLY like the idea though and feel like I'm close to getting it! If someone has Xen running already - is the XenDesktop management app worth looking at and does it work with more up to date Xen code? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I used it for a while with xenserver 6.2 and it worked really well. Don't know how / if it would work with a newer version of Xen. Only thing to remember is that with the free version you can't apply XenServer patches / hotfixes through the management console you need to use CLI but is pretty easy with good guides available online. Personally would prefer a web based tool though so I can use my tablet or phone to manage vm's but couldn't find anything as feature rich at the time. P.s. Am back to bare metal unraid 6.0 again for the time being as don't see a real benefit to virtualising unraid for me, and a bit of a pain to upgrade unraid when a new version comes out, but when unraid as host is ready then I will play around with client vm's again. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
January 29, 201412 yr I virtualize under ESXi. Upgrade for me is as simple as copying over bzroot etc. then rebooting. Bonus, if I stop the array but leave it powered I can insert new drives into a hot swap backplane and then restart the array (not a reboot) the new drive is recognized just fine! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
January 29, 201412 yr I virtualize under ESXi. Upgrade for me is as simple as copying over bzroot etc. then rebooting. Bonus, if I stop the array but leave it powered I can insert new drives into a hot swap backplane and then restart the array (not a reboot) the new drive is recognized just fine! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Bare metal, Xen and KVM also support this black magic 'hot swapping' of which you speak.
January 29, 201412 yr I virtualize under ESXi. Upgrade for me is as simple as copying over bzroot etc. then rebooting. Bonus, if I stop the array but leave it powered I can insert new drives into a hot swap backplane and then restart the array (not a reboot) the new drive is recognized just fine! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Bare metal, Xen and KVM also support this black magic 'hot swapping' of which you speak. I would hope so, my point was demonstrating that its not too hard to upgrade and expand while virtualized in response to a comment about going to bare metal because of issues upgrading while virtualized... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
January 29, 201412 yr I virtualize under ESXi. Upgrade for me is as simple as copying over bzroot etc. then rebooting. Bonus, if I stop the array but leave it powered I can insert new drives into a hot swap backplane and then restart the array (not a reboot) the new drive is recognized just fine! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Bare metal, Xen and KVM also support this black magic 'hot swapping' of which you speak. I would hope so, my point was demonstrating that its not too hard to upgrade and expand while virtualized in response to a comment about going to bare metal because of issues upgrading while virtualized... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I didn't have issues upgrading unraid while virtualise it is just more involved than on bare metal (at least for xenserver) I.e. you had to create a new VM add the update vhd to it and pass through all the relevant controller cards etc.. As opposed to on bare metal copying bzroot etc.. to the USB stick and restart. I did do a google search if it was possible to just replace a vhd of an existing VM with an updated vhd but couldn't find anything. Besides the only thing I was virtualising was plex server and jriver media center server so I didn't have a big use case for a VM. But very interested in unraid being the xen host. Will play with it again then. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
January 29, 201412 yr Ah, so when you virtualized unRAID you must have pulled it off the stick? I have a Plop VM I boot from a cd ISO. The Plop VM does nothing but redirect the boot process to my unRAID stick. UnRAID is passed through to the VM or rather the USB controller it's on is, my SAS controller cards are passed in as well. UnRAID boots just as if it were plugged into a physical computer, can you do something similar with Xen? Having to respin an entire VM for each upgrade would indeed be a pita and I've never heard of it being done that way - makes sense you'd avoid it! Using unRAID as our hypervisor should certainly be easier! Still gotta' find a good web GUI though but even an executable client to do that would work as a start IMO. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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