Hi

 

I’m running right now my 4.7 version on an AMD Sempron LE-1100. It’s OK for my needs so far……

 

I also have an “old” desktop based on a Core 2 Duo E6750 and Gygabite GA P35 DS3L

 

Both motherboards have 4 ports SATA II, but the Gigabyte (ATX) has 3 x PCIex1 and 1 x PCIex16, so I could add more “cheap” 2 ports SATA II cards (such as the one Monoprice sells) and go up to 4 + 4 x 2 = 12 SATA ports

On top of it, the Core 2 Duo has more horsepower if I were to need more……

But it’s less power efficient (65W vs 45W for the Sempron)

 

So all in all, is this a good move? I could even try to sell my current Sempron + motherboard……Won’t be much I guess !!!

How the 20W difference on the CPU will reflect on my electricity bill ?

 

..assuming that the Wattage you are refering to is TDP, not idle power consumption, these are not-comparable.

 

You should measure and compare two systems with CPU, motherboard, add-.on cards, same no. of disks....in idle

 

If you want to expand..do you have the case and PSU already?

As the AMD is currently enough for your needs, another option is to sell both used combos and get a new, low power-hungry one.

 

Yes, that's an option as well

Any recommendation but still trying to keep the budget as low as possible?

...I like this one...cheap, as it ncludes the CPU and low power, still more than doubling bthe performance of your current sempron. -> http://www.msi.com/product/mb/C847MSE33.html

 

...same, with a litlle more powerful CPU: http://206.108.49.93/app/de/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=654

 

...or go for a this http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B75%20Pro3-M/index.de.asp ...with already 8 S-ATAs...add an IvyBridge CPU of your linking

This Celeron 847 @1,1GHz is 2 times faster than the Semprom LE-1100 (1,9Ghz)?

For the 3rd choice, what would be the cheapest Ivybridge cpu: a Celeron G1610?

This Celeron 847 @1,1GHz is 2 times faster than the Semprom LE-1100 (1,9Ghz)?

 

Yes, it is, see

 

- Le-1100: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Sempron+LE-1100

- C-847: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+847+%40+1.10GHz&id=661

 

...and the little 1037U on that biostar mobo is again doubling the performance for almost the same price: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+1037U+%40+1.80GHz

 

For the 3rd choice, what would be the cheapest Ivybridge cpu: a Celeron G1610?

 

Well, these days, the cheapest is not always the lowest model. 

But in theory youare right..that should be the G1610...here's the benchmark: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Celeron+G1610+%40+2.60GHz

...about 6x the bang of your Sempron.

Well, the Biostar is interesting…..at  a very good price. But it only has 4 SATA ports

What SATA controller would you suggest (knowing it can only be one….)

 

...I'd always go for a LSI based card.

The M1015 flashed to IT will support 8 additional disks and adds approx 7W to the bill.

It will work with an expander for a 24drive build as well.

However, the price for an expander will exceed the total amount of board, memory and M1015

 

There are even cards with build-in expanders for 16-24 disks, but these are not cheap as well.

 

The beauty with unraid is, that you can expand disk-by-disk without much hassle.

The microATX MSI mobo with C-847 offers more options when you want to start with low-end cards.

When you say "The microATX MSI mobo with C-847 offers more options when you want to start with low-end cards". it's because it has more PCIe slots?

Yes.

As you stated in your first post, you could start with low-end cards, but maybe the Asrock + G1610 adds up to the same amount as the MSI+2x cheap cards with 2 ports each.

Both systems then will offer 8 ports.

 

...adding a M1015 will give you 12 ports on the mini-ITX boards and 16 ports on the Asrock.

 

I'll depend on your needs right now.

Spend a bit more for the motherboard and you'll have a lower-power system with a few more features as well as 6 SATA ports.  The Haswell boards and CPUs are notably more "power friendly" than the previous generations as well, so it will be a very low power system.

 

For a mini-ITX system this is an excellent board ... supports 6 drives as is; and the PCIe x16 slot lets you add an additional controller to support 2, 4, 8, ... on up to 24 additional drives, depending on your needs 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132032

 

 

Pop in anything from a $69.99 G3220 (PassMark 3,225) to a $319.99 Core I7-4771 (PassMark 10,090)  and you'll have a very nice system.    And if you start with the low cost G3220, you can more than triple your power in the future by simply swapping the CPU for an i7      [As noted above, your current system scores 433 on PassMark, so even the low-end G3220 would give you ~ 7 1/2 times the processing power you have now  ]

I aggree that the newest platform will deliver the best for the money.

However, IMHO the difference in energy consumption between 1155 and 1150 would not allow you to save 25bucks within 3 years.

If there is no need and budget is tight, I'd go for the cheaper (but fit) variant.

The 1037U will almoust outrun the sempron by factor of four.

 

Maybe even adding or swapping to 4TB disks is the nearest best alternative, enabling you to stick with 4 disks and still grow.

It'll be up to the OPs requirements and priorities.

I aggree that the newest platform will deliver the best for the money.

However, IMHO the difference in energy consumption between 1155 and 1150 would not allow you to save 25bucks within 3 years.

 

Probably true ... you'd have to save 7.6 watts for a system that was on 24/7 to save $25 in 3 years at $0.125/kwh (avg US cost) -- the 7.6w might be a realistic difference, but the system probably isn't on 24/7.

 

In any event, if $25 is a significant difference, then I'd agree the lower-priced system will fit better in the budget.    Personally, I'd find the extra $25 and get the Haswell CPU.

 

 

Probably true ... you'd have to save 7.6 watts for a system that was on 24/7 to save $25 in 3 years at $0.125/kwh (avg US cost) -- the 7.6w might be a realistic difference, but the system probably isn't on 24/7.

 

....on a side-note to this, in my part of world the kwh costs avrg 0.38USD, so a Haswell might as well make a substantial saving.

However, the best kwh is the one that is not spend...I moved my large all-in-one server from 24/7 to a set of smaller ones, using S3-suspend/WOL.

That move saved 550kwh last year (which well paid for the two additional systems i introduced during my rebuild).

However, the best kwh is the one that is not spend...

 

 

Certainly true.  Hard to save more when your baseline is ZERO