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split levels and sharing, read and still confused:p

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Well been running unraid for about 2 years now I think or a bit longer. I never bothered with setting up any shares or split levels. Was just me and one other that used the box, but now a few more people will have access to it, so it's time to figure it all out to keep the data safe.

 

I would like to set up split level 0, I think. I like having the same set of files on one drive instead of split over many.

At the moment disk 1 contains, movies and tv episodes. Disk 2 has cad/work/school, disk 3 backup images of laptops and programs, disk 4 has dvd images. Would split level 0 keep the structure the same, if i enabled shares?

 

Is it possible to set up just 2 users? One for myself with access to all the drives read and write. The other account would have just read access, and be a guest, that could be used by the kids and others, that has access to just the following directories,

 

\\tower\disk1\Movies

\\tower\disk1\TV

\\tower\disk4\DVD

 

Would this work? Read over the wiki and forum posts, and confused. Can't figure out if split level 0 would accomplish this. And unsure how I would go setting up the shares/users.

You don't really need to worry about split unless you want to have a share that spans disks.

 

Create a User for yourself. Go into Shares. The top folders of each drive will already be there as a share. Set each share to Include only the disk you want and set it to Secure with read/write for yourself and everyone else will automatically get read access.

 

Note: share security is not available on the free version of unRAID.

From what you've outlined you don't need to use split levels ... you should use "Includes" instead.

 

Set up shares for your different categories [Movies, TV, Schoolwork, Backups, DVDs] and for each share use an "Include" and only list the disk (or disks) that you want to allow that share to use.    While in your current setup this would only be one disk for each; this makes it MUCH simpler to expand the available space for any shares should you need it later.

 

Then you can set up the security you want by creating different users with the permissions you want.    As trurl noted, this requires a paid version of UnRAID -- but that's clearly already the case, since you already have 4 data drives  :)

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Thanks, that does clear up some of the confusion I had. Will try it out in a few days. Have a 3tb preclearing at the moment, that will be replacing a 2tb drives. I have unraid plus license. Just been adding drives as I need them. Using a second box to backup the first.

 

In the long term I don't see my work/data images eating up more space than the drives they are currently on. The movie/tv collection is most likely to expand, at that point will add another drive to the mix or upgrade to larger drives.

 

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Ok think I got it set up properly. One thing is still messing up. If I set up a regular share, does the user need to be given access via the disk share as well? Like does the user need access to the disk share to access the regular share?

I wouldn't think so, but I really don't know, as I don't have any restrictions on access to my array.  Perhaps someone who uses user accounts with access controls can clarify exactly what you need to do.

 

 

Ok think I got it set up properly. One thing is still messing up. If I set up a regular share, does the user need to be given access via the disk share as well? Like does the user need access to the disk share to access the regular share?

A user can have access to a user share without having access to the disk share(s) that contain that user share. If you try to access a user share, unRAID will use the security settings of that user share. If you try to access a disk share, unRAID will use the security settings for that disk share. They are logically independent security settings.
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Ok think I got it set up properly. One thing is still messing up. If I set up a regular share, does the user need to be given access via the disk share as well? Like does the user need access to the disk share to access the regular share?

A user can have access to a user share without having access to the disk share(s) that contain that user share. If you try to access a user share, unRAID will use the security settings of that user share. If you try to access a disk share, unRAID will use the security settings for that disk share. They are logically independent security settings.

 

Thanks. I made some changes to the settings after reading this post. I decided to make just those 2 directories on disk1 open to user guest, and made one for myself with access to disk shares.

 

I left the split level fields blank. I left the allocation field at high water. I don't think that field will matter right? Since it is included on disk1 and excluded from the others.

I left the allocation field at high water. I don't think that field will matter right? Since it is included on disk1 and excluded from the others.

 

Correct.  If the share is restricted to a single disk the allocation method won't matter.    However, your comment indicates you may have set BOTH the "Include" and "Exclude" fields.  Not a good idea.  Just use one or the other.    If you have any disks listed in the Include field, those are the only disks that will be part of the share.    Likewise, if you specifically exclude disks (using the Exclude field); then the share can use all other disks in the array except those disks.    Things won't necessarily go wrong if you use both fields (as long as there aren't conflicts) ... but there's no need to use both; and when you later add disks to the array things may not behave as you expect if you're using both fields.

 

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Correct.  If the share is restricted to a single disk the allocation method won't matter.    However, your comment indicates you may have set BOTH the "Include" and "Exclude" fields.  Not a good idea.  Just use one or the other.    If you have any disks listed in the Include field, those are the only disks that will be part of the share.    Likewise, if you specifically exclude disks (using the Exclude field); then the share can use all other disks in the array except those disks.    Things won't necessarily go wrong if you use both fields (as long as there aren't conflicts) ... but there's no need to use both; and when you later add disks to the array things may not behave as you expect if you're using both fields.

 

Yes I set both the include and exclude fields, didn't realize it would work with just one. Somewhat limited in adding more drives to the unraid, using a hp N40L, can hold 5 drives, but you can sneak another drive on the top to get 6 total.

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