February 11, 201610 yr Parity drive with triangle (188 command timeout, 0x0032 054 from 100) smart, but smart overall-health: passed While doing a parity check I get a green thumbs up, but after the parity check I get the triangle, is that normal or should I be worried? I have had 0 errors since I upgraded to WD20EARX drives on all the parity checks I have ran, and I ran 2 parity checks with 0 errors after seeing this triangle, am I being too paranoid?
February 11, 201610 yr Command Timeout is Tricky, because it can signal a bad cable or insufficient power-supply, or some other issue.
February 11, 201610 yr Community Expert Parity drive with triangle (188 command timeout, 0x0032 054 from 100) smart, but smart overall-health: passed While doing a parity check I get a green thumbs up, but after the parity check I get the triangle, is that normal or should I be worried? I have had 0 errors since I upgraded to WD20EARX drives on all the parity checks I have ran, and I ran 2 parity checks with 0 errors after seeing this triangle, am I being too paranoid? I googled this for you and found on this site: http://superuser.com/questions/888575/diagnosing-whether-a-drive-is-reliable-via-s-m-a-r-t-attributes This information: Also of concern is 188 Command_Timeout which has a value of 1, this is defined as: The count of aborted operations due to HDD timeout. Normally this attribute value should be equal to zero and if the value is far above zero, then most likely there will be some serious problems with power supply or an oxidized data cable. If nothing else this is a point to start from.
February 11, 201610 yr Author Ok, thank you both. I believe this number has not raised past 54. This morning I checked and I had a green thumbs up. But its still showing the 54 on the smart testing, it hasn't gone higher. I will keep a close look and replace cables if I see it go 55 or higher. I think its warning me it already had this issue. Is there a way to clear this flag and wait to see if it starts counting up? It may have been when I was adding more drives and at one point my parity drive fell off the post.
February 11, 201610 yr Community Expert Ok, thank you both. I believe this number has not raised past 54. This morning I checked and I had a green thumbs up. But its still showing the 54 on the smart testing, it hasn't gone higher. I will keep a close look and replace cables if I see it go 55 or higher. I think its warning me it already had this issue. Is there a way to clear this flag and wait to see if it starts counting up? It may have been when I was adding more drives and at one point my parity drive fell off the post. SATA cable connections can be an issue for those folks who are not using 'hot swap' cages but, rather, messing with a rats nest of cables whenever they change out or add a new drive. It is so easy to 'loosen' a either a data or PS cable since the SATA connector design is not mechanically secure one. After you get past four or five drives, you probably want to start to consider the use of cages to help prevent cabling issues. As far as I know there is no way to 'clear' this setting but I believe that unRAID will stop warning about it after notifying you once unless the value increases again. (I am not really sure what happens after a reboot...)
February 11, 201610 yr Author Ok, thank you both. I believe this number has not raised past 54. This morning I checked and I had a green thumbs up. But its still showing the 54 on the smart testing, it hasn't gone higher. I will keep a close look and replace cables if I see it go 55 or higher. I think its warning me it already had this issue. Is there a way to clear this flag and wait to see if it starts counting up? It may have been when I was adding more drives and at one point my parity drive fell off the post. SATA cable connections can be an issue for those folks who are not using 'hot swap' cages but, rather, messing with a rats nest of cables whenever they change out or add a new drive. It is so easy to 'loosen' a either a data or PS cable since the SATA connector design is not mechanically secure one. After you get past four or five drives, you probably want to start to consider the use of cages to help prevent cabling issues. As far as I know there is no way to 'clear' this setting but I believe that unRAID will stop warning about it after notifying you once unless the value increases again. (I am not really sure what happens after a reboot...) Funny you mention that, I switched to using Icy Docks. 5 drive in 3 bay on an antec 1200 case, total of 20 drives swappable, but my parity drive is internal along with my ssd cache drive. So yeah, I will double check the sata cables on the 2 internal drives.. Thanks again.
February 11, 201610 yr Ok, thank you both. I believe this number has not raised past 54. This morning I checked and I had a green thumbs up. But its still showing the 54 on the smart testing, it hasn't gone higher. I will keep a close look and replace cables if I see it go 55 or higher. I think its warning me it already had this issue. Is there a way to clear this flag and wait to see if it starts counting up? It may have been when I was adding more drives and at one point my parity drive fell off the post. SATA cable connections can be an issue for those folks who are not using 'hot swap' cages but, rather, messing with a rats nest of cables whenever they change out or add a new drive. It is so easy to 'loosen' a either a data or PS cable since the SATA connector design is not mechanically secure one. After you get past four or five drives, you probably want to start to consider the use of cages to help prevent cabling issues. As far as I know there is no way to 'clear' this setting but I believe that unRAID will stop warning about it after notifying you once unless the value increases again. (I am not really sure what happens after a reboot...) Funny you mention that, I switched to using Icy Docks. 5 drive in 3 bay on an antec 1200 case, total of 20 drives swappable, but my parity drive is internal along with my ssd cache drive. So yeah, I will double check the sata cables on the 2 internal drives.. Thanks again. It's also possible that this is a power supply issue (not enough power, or issue with rails, or something) that caused the disk to drop off line, since this manifested it's self during a parity check (one of the few times you spin up all disks at once). So yeah check your cables, and make sure your power supply can actually support your array.
February 11, 201610 yr Author Ok, thank you both. I believe this number has not raised past 54. This morning I checked and I had a green thumbs up. But its still showing the 54 on the smart testing, it hasn't gone higher. I will keep a close look and replace cables if I see it go 55 or higher. I think its warning me it already had this issue. Is there a way to clear this flag and wait to see if it starts counting up? It may have been when I was adding more drives and at one point my parity drive fell off the post. SATA cable connections can be an issue for those folks who are not using 'hot swap' cages but, rather, messing with a rats nest of cables whenever they change out or add a new drive. It is so easy to 'loosen' a either a data or PS cable since the SATA connector design is not mechanically secure one. After you get past four or five drives, you probably want to start to consider the use of cages to help prevent cabling issues. As far as I know there is no way to 'clear' this setting but I believe that unRAID will stop warning about it after notifying you once unless the value increases again. (I am not really sure what happens after a reboot...) Funny you mention that, I switched to using Icy Docks. 5 drive in 3 bay on an antec 1200 case, total of 20 drives swappable, but my parity drive is internal along with my ssd cache drive. So yeah, I will double check the sata cables on the 2 internal drives.. Thanks again. It's also possible that this is a power supply issue (not enough power, or issue with rails, or something) that caused the disk to drop off line, since this manifested it's self during a parity check (one of the few times you spin up all disks at once). So yeah check your cables, and make sure your power supply can actually support your array. Oh I have enough power. 850 watt single rail 80+ Gold Corsair. But yes, I will also check my power cable connections since its modular, you never know... It's still at 54 and it has been at 54 for a while now, but unRAIR keeps warning me. Funny, if its supposed to remember it warned me already.
February 11, 201610 yr Community Expert Funny, if its supposed to remember it warned me already. You might want to post this up as a Defect on the "Defect Reports" section of this board. It might not have cropped up previously...
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