As for the wasted licence, I wouldn't see it that way. You only have three disks now and I thought four disks would of been fine for me, now (6 months later), I have eight disks (1 parity and 7 data disks).

 

I just meant it will be a wasted license if I have to switch to WHS. If I keep using unRAID I'm sure I'll add more drives over time.

 

If you're paranoid about security, I guess you'd want it on, but if you're the only person that uses your server or is the only one who accesses it, just disable user security. I know it isn't quite what you want to hear, but it seems you're going nowhere fast.

 

I don't really care about access control on the server.  I'd turn off user-level security if it would make Backup & Recovery work.  

 

Tomorrow night I'll probably work on writing up my findings thus far so I can send something to Lime-Tech support.

FTP works perfectly fine for me.  Not 5 minutes ago I uploaded some files via ftp and all seems to be working well.

 

I just tried too, and I can't see anything when I ftp to the server.  I see disk1, disk2, and user folders at the top level, but nothing is in them.  And I can't write to them.  I don't doubt the there are ways to get it working, but  This thread turned me off the the idea of using FTP.  Did you do any workarounds to get it working?

FTP works perfectly fine for me.  Not 5 minutes ago I uploaded some files via ftp and all seems to be working well.

 

I just tried too, and I can't see anything when I ftp to the server.  I see disk1, disk2, and user folders at the top level, but nothing is in them.  And I can't write to them.  I don't doubt the there are ways to get it working, but  This thread turned me off the the idea of using FTP.  Did you do any workarounds to get it working?

 

If I remember correctly all I had to do was the two find commands to get everything working the way I wanted it.  I use sftp when I at work or off my local lan to transfer files in.  Works a treat and have not really had any problems.

FTP works perfectly fine for me.  Not 5 minutes ago I uploaded some files via ftp and all seems to be working well.

 

I just tried too, and I can't see anything when I ftp to the server.  I see disk1, disk2, and user folders at the top level, but nothing is in them.  And I can't write to them.  I don't doubt the there are ways to get it working, but  This thread turned me off the the idea of using FTP.

 

FTP works perfectly fine for me too.  The thread you pointed to has everything you need to make it work:

1) Set the correct default create masks for the samba service in smb-extra.conf

2) Set the correct default permissions for uploading files for the ftp service in vsftpd.conf

3) Run a find command to chmod the files and directories that currently exist on your server.

That's it.  Will take you two minutes.  It's easier than it looks.

 

 

 

Is there a way for me to double check permissions on files and directories?  It seems like I keep seeing a lot of things suggesting that I have only read access to various shares, even though I actually am able to write files, create directories, etc.  I noticed when I connect to a share from a client, and then type smbstatus on the unRAID server I see that connection is marked "rdonly".

Is there a way for me to double check permissions on files and directories?

ls -l

 

when I connect to a share from a client, and then type smbstatus on the unRAID server I see that connection is marked "rdonly".

That has nothing to do with permissions. That is telling you that the samba client has opened the connection for reading at that time.

You weren't writing stuff to the server when you saw that, right?

 

Is there a way for me to double check permissions on files and directories?

ls -l

 

So, I previously ran these two commands, trying to open things up as much as possible.

find /mnt/ -type d -exec chmod 0777 {} \;
find /mnt/ -type f -exec chmod 0777 {} \;

 

My /user/Backups folder has these permissions:

drwxrwxrwx 1 root root     208 Apr  8 21:46 Backups/

 

Is there anything suspicious about that?

 

 

when I connect to a share from a client, and then type smbstatus on the unRAID server I see that connection is marked "rdonly".

That has nothing to do with permissions. That is telling you that the samba client has opened the connection for reading at that time.

You weren't writing stuff to the server when you saw that, right?

 

You're right.  When I do that with a file transfer in progress it shows up as RDWR.

 

 

Wow.  Acronis Backup and Recovery really doesn't seem to like unRAID.  I tried setting up FTP, and while I can upload files via an FTP client, I can't point Backup and Recovery at the FTP server.  It keeps failing, saying it can't open the backup location.

 

 

I talked to Tier 2 technical support at Acronis tonight.  They said that they'd have to get one of the developers to look into this.  The guy did say it looks like a problem with Backup and Recovery, and not one with unRAID.

So, I previously ran these two commands, trying to open things up as much as possible.

find /mnt/ -type d -exec chmod 0777 {} \;
find /mnt/ -type f -exec chmod 0777 {} \;

Reggie, you got the above from the post you linked to in your previous post, right?

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=5832.msg55210#msg55210

Well, the numbers were different there.  It was...

find /mnt/ -type d -exec chmod 0755 {} \;
find /mnt/ -type f -exec chmod 0644 {} \;

Why did you decide to change that?  What you're basically doing is setting the last two bits, which to windows mean "hidden" an "system".

There's your problem.  If you just follow the steps in that other thread, you'll have a fully functioning ftp service in no time.

 

A temporary work around would be to use a network share (something not giving you grief with Acronis), dump the image onto that and transfer the image from the original place onto your unraid server then.

Again, just a work around until you resolve this fiasco with Acronis and it is double handling too, but at lease you'll be able to copy the image back to your unraid server for now.

Why did you decide to change that?  What you're basically doing is setting the last two bits, which to windows mean "hidden" an "system".

There's your problem.  If you just follow the steps in that other thread, you'll have a fully functioning ftp service in no time.

 

I tried the original numbers first, and it didn't work.  (and I just tried again and confirmed it).  And like I said, I can download/upload files using an FTP client- just not when I'm using Backup&Recovery.

 

I changed the numbers because I don't really understand how file permissions work in unRAID.  It's my understanding that 0777 gives everyone read/write/execute permissions, so I thought that would be the most likely one to work.  I thought 0644 just gave the owner read/write/execute permissions, with everyone else only having read.

A temporary work around would be to use a network share (something not giving you grief with Acronis), dump the image onto that and transfer the image from the original place onto your unraid server then.

Again, just a work around until you resolve this fiasco with Acronis and it is double handling too, but at lease you'll be able to copy the image back to your unraid server for now.

 

Yeah, I could.  But I went with Backup and Recovery over TrueImage because I didn't want to have to manage deleting old image files manually. 

 

I could also just back up things to my SageTV server, which runs all the time too, as I have a spare 2TB drive in there.  Backup and Recovery works fine with shares on Windows machines.

 

I'll give Acronis a bit more time.  I haven't decided what I'll do, and I probably won't for a while.  I might try to get a refund on Backup and Recovery and see if ShadowProtect desktop works (this time I'll try the trial!  ).  Or maybe I'll put unRAID aside for a while and try out WHS.  I know this problem is probably with Acronis, not unRAID, but the risk you run by using niche software is that other software vendors aren't going to make sure their software works with it.  I haven't been real pleased with the ease of use of unRAID thus far.  It's my understanding that we get all future upgrades for free with our license.  So, I could always come back. From what I understand, v5 should be more user-friendly.  And hopefully more of the basic functionality, like UPS support, will be built-in.

Backup and Recovery works fine with shares on Windows machines.

Are you using UNC paths?  Or are you mapping a network drive in windows, assigning it a drive letter?

 

Also, do you by any chance have another computer with a different version of windows? This may help us narrow down the suspects.

Or maybe you could do a dual boot on your main computer?

 

Quote: It's my understanding that we get all future upgrades for free with our license.  So, I could always come back. From what I understand, v5 should be more user-friendly.  And hopefully more of the basic functionality, like UPS support, will be built-in.

 

That is the benefit on unraid, is that for any future OS updates, regardless of your current OS version that you're running or whether you're running a free or paid licenced edition, you'll always be able to update to the latest version. For UPS support, if you install a addon called unMENU, you can add APC UPS support (pending model support).

Barzija, I wasn't stating this fact like it was the only way to install the APC UPS Support, but using unMENU is one way to install it, it's good to have options . The other method you would install it is to download the package, save it into a 'boot/packages' folder (if not existent, just create it), have it install upon start up and have and execute the service as well in the 'go' script.

I like unMENU, but in fact I don't use it on my production server. I won't go on about this further, but it was just one of possible other suggestions in which you could have APC UPS Support Barzija. I know I may of suggested to use unMENU before, again, just an idea and people who seek advice or ask questions may wish to use or ignore the advice to their desire. No need for your negativity Barzija, this forum is about helping people with their unraid related issues, which we all like doing. I've said my peace.

Point taken.

Are you using UNC paths?  Or are you mapping a network drive in windows, assigning it a drive letter?

 

I've tried both.  Generally, I use UNC paths.  But I tried mapping the drive, which also works in Windows.  However, Backup and Recovery, for some unknown reason, can't/won't see mapped network drives. 

 

Also, do you by any chance have another computer with a different version of windows? This may help us narrow down the suspects.

 

My main two computers are both Win7x64.  But, I have lots of virtual machines running different flavors of Windows (mostly XP VM's with different levels of patching).  It should be fine to test it in a VM.  I'll see if I can give it a try tonight or tomorrow on my XP SP3 VM.  Otherwise my SageTV server is a WinXP x32 system.

Here's a thread at the Acronis forums having a similar problem, with a different NAS:

http://forum.acronis.com/forum/5097

 

 

Thanks brainebone.  Seeing a bunch of old posts, many of which haven't been resolved yet, doesn't give me much hope...

 

Purko's idea of trying Backup and Recovery on a different OS was a good idea.  I tried running it on a WinXP SP3 virtual machine, and it seemed to work fine.  So, there seems to be a weird combination of things coming together that is causing this problem.  I've done a little digging through Windows 7 local security settings, but I'll go through it again, looking for any differences between the default Win7 settings and the default WinXP settings.  I already checked the obvious one- the LAN Manager authentication level.  The default Win7 setting of "Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated" shouldn't be a problem, but I tried the WinXP default of "Send LM & NTLM responses:" and that didn't work either.

Does ABR let you use batch files with scheduled backups like True Image?

Does ABR let you use batch files with scheduled backups like True Image?

 

Yeah, it does.  What do you have in mind?  Saving the backup somewhere other than the unRAID server, then copying it over with commands in the bat file?

 

While that might work, it would pretty much completely take away the reason to use Backup and Recovery over True Image.  I want Backup and Recovery to automatically delete old image files that I don't need anymore.

If you can execute the batch file before the backup, you should be able to mount the share to a drive letter that will be accessible by the backup task with:

NET USE <DRIVE>: \\<NAS_IP_or_DomainName>\<Shared_Folder_Name>\ <password> /USER:<Domain_Name>\<User_Name>

 

Perhaps this will give you more flexibility in getting W7 to connect to the share than ABR has on its own?

 

Perhaps this will give you more flexibility in getting W7 to connect to the share than ABR has on its own?

 

Ahh, OK.  I see where you're going with that.  I haven't quite gotten that working, but I did finally figure out how to get Acronis to start seeing mapped network drives.  Acronis wasn't seeing my previous mapped drives because they were mapped with the "Andy" user, while Acronis Backup and Recovery was executing as a different user.  I have a few ideas for how to get it working that I can try now.  If I mount a drive with administrative access, then Acronis see's it, but I don't know how to do that automatically.  So, I'm hoping this will work: 1) mount the share as the admin, 2) configure Acronis to back-up to that mounted drive, 3) set up a batch file to mount the share to the same place that I used before, and 4) unmount the share.  Then when a back-up starts, Acronis should mount the share by itself, so it should be able to access it.

 

Alternatively, maybe I just need to change all the Acronis services to start under the "Andy" account, rather than as the acronis user or localsystem.

 

I'll report back on my successes/failures.

Alternatively, maybe I just need to change all the Acronis services to start under the "Andy" account, rather than as the acronis user or localsystem.

 

I know that Acronis recommends against changing the account its services run under.

 

Mapping the drive via a "pre command" in the the Acronis back-up options is the recommended way of using a mapped drive (at least in true image), and should temporarily mount the drive under the correct account, since the command should be executed in the same session as the backup.