Boot from USB-PCI-Expansion Card + Passing through creative soundcard

JeremyS · May 15, 2017

Hello unRAID Forum,

all my mainboard usb ports are connected to one bus so i cant pass it to a vm.

I have read alot of different things about pci expansion usb cards and most people say that you cant boot a usb stick using them.

Whatsoever all theses answeres and stuff are from forums 5+ years old and maybe things have changed nowadays. Now i just try asking here is it possible to boot unraid with a pci (not pcie) usb card? Does it work for anyone and if so does it work with any card?

My second problem is that i cant pass through my creative soundcard, its a creative x-fi soundblaster. Using the onboard sound works fine.

When i pass it through using the gui, the vm has no sound (obviously) but also youtube videos dont play and windows says that the microphon is always like at 100% (that indicator telling you what the mic picks up).

The soundcard is in its own iommu group too.

If you need any more details let me know, im new to unraid though so a little explaining is necessary.

Thanks in advance. (also sorry for poor english)

Frank1940 · May 16, 2017

You probably will need to provide the Gurus with a bit more information. First, you need to post up the manufacturer and extra model numbers of your motherboard, pic expansion card, and model of that sound card. It would also be good if you were to post up a diagnostics file with your next post. 'Tools' >>> 'Diagnostics'

EDIT: Did you read this section of the manual and verify that your MB will even support the level of virtualization you are attempting to achieve?

http://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php/UnRAID_Manual_6#Using_Virtual_Machines

EDIT #2 You also need to include the exact model number of your CPU.

JeremyS · May 16, 2017

Thanks for your answer.

I attached my diagnostics and here are my specs:
Mainboard: ASrock pro4 z97
CPU: i7-4790k at stock speeds until everything works

RAM: 16gb 1600mhz

Soundcard: Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional (PCIe)

My MB does support vt-d and vt-x so does my cpu, I have successfully passed through my gtx970.

Yesterday I created a second VM with a fresh windows and the soundcard worked right away, doesnt in my main VM though. (same settings and method for passing through)

So there might be something faulty with my current install.

Anyways my "main" problem is the boot from usb card. I don't have a pci usb card yet but i don't want to buy one just know it doesnt work.

Some more info:

PCI Devices and IOMMU Groups

IOMMU group 0
	[8086:0c00] 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 06)
IOMMU group 1
	[8086:0c01] 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor PCI Express x16 Controller (rev 06)
	[10de:13c2] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1)
	[10de:0fbb] 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
IOMMU group 2
	[8086:0412] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
IOMMU group 3
	[8086:0c0c] 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller (rev 06)
IOMMU group 4
	[8086:8cb1] 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family USB xHCI Controller
IOMMU group 5
	[8086:8cba] 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family ME Interface #1
IOMMU group 6
	[8086:15a1] 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (2) I218-V
IOMMU group 7
	[8086:8cad] 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI Controller #2
IOMMU group 8
	[8086:8ca0] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller
IOMMU group 9
	[8086:8c90] 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev d0)
IOMMU group 10
	[8086:244e] 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d0)
	[1b21:1080] 03:00.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI Bridge (rev 03)
IOMMU group 11
	[8086:8c9e] 00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev d0)
IOMMU group 12
	[8086:8ca6] 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family USB EHCI Controller #1
IOMMU group 13
	[8086:8cc4] 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family Z97 LPC Controller
	[8086:8c82] 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family SATA Controller [AHCI Mode]
	[8086:8ca2] 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller
IOMMU group 14
	[1102:000b] 05:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs EMU20k2 [Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Series] (rev 04)

Iommu 14 is the soundcard, and iommu 8 is my onboard sound (which works)

iommu 1 is my graphics card which also works

USB Devices

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8009 Intel Corp. 
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp. 
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0781:5406 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro U3
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0c70:f00a MCT Elektronikladen 
Bus 003 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
Bus 003 Device 006: ID 1b1c:0c0a Corsair 
Bus 003 Device 007: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. Hub
Bus 003 Device 008: ID 046d:c223 Logitech, Inc. G11/G15 Keyboard / USB Hub
Bus 003 Device 009: ID 045e:02e6 Microsoft Corp. 
Bus 003 Device 010: ID 1e7d:2d51 ROCCAT Kone+ Mouse
Bus 003 Device 011: ID 046d:c221 Logitech, Inc. G11/G15 Keyboard / Keyboard
Bus 003 Device 012: ID 046d:c225 Logitech, Inc. G11/G15 Keyboard / G keys
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub

as you can see all my usb devices are on bus 3

and lastly my xml of the VM:

<domain type='kvm' id='2'>
<name>JEREMY-PC</name>
<uuid>eeec4157-7dd7-c213-1df3-05daec67b3df</uuid>
<description>Gaming PC</description>
<metadata>
<vmtemplate xmlns="unraid" name="Windows 10" icon="windows.png" os="windows10"/>
</metadata>
<memory unit='KiB'>14155776</memory>
<currentMemory unit='KiB'>14155776</currentMemory>
<memoryBacking>
<nosharepages/>
</memoryBacking>
<vcpu placement='static'>8</vcpu>
<cputune>
<vcpupin vcpu='0' cpuset='0'/>
<vcpupin vcpu='1' cpuset='1'/>
<vcpupin vcpu='2' cpuset='2'/>
<vcpupin vcpu='3' cpuset='3'/>
<vcpupin vcpu='4' cpuset='4'/>
<vcpupin vcpu='5' cpuset='5'/>
<vcpupin vcpu='6' cpuset='6'/>
<vcpupin vcpu='7' cpuset='7'/>
</cputune>
<resource>
<partition>/machine</partition>
</resource>
<os>
<type arch='x86_64' machine='pc-i440fx-2.7'>hvm</type>
<loader readonly='yes' type='pflash'>/usr/share/qemu/ovmf-x64/OVMF_CODE-pure-efi.fd</loader>
<nvram>/etc/libvirt/qemu/nvram/eeec4157-7dd7-c213-1df3-05daec67b3df_VARS-pure-efi.fd</nvram>
</os>
<features>
<acpi/>
<apic/>
</features>
<cpu mode='host-passthrough'>
<topology sockets='1' cores='4' threads='2'/>
</cpu>
<clock offset='localtime'>
<timer name='rtc' tickpolicy='catchup'/>
<timer name='pit' tickpolicy='delay'/>
<timer name='hpet' present='no'/>
</clock>
<on_poweroff>destroy</on_poweroff>
<on_reboot>restart</on_reboot>
<on_crash>restart</on_crash>
<devices>
<emulator>/usr/local/sbin/qemu</emulator>
<disk type='block' device='disk'>
<driver name='qemu' type='raw' cache='writeback'/>
<source dev='/dev/disk/by-id/ata-SAMSUNG_SSD_830_Series_S0Z3NEAC819526'/>
<backingStore/>
<target dev='hdc' bus='virtio'/>
<boot order='1'/>
<alias name='virtio-disk2'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x04' function='0x0'/>
</disk>
<disk type='file' device='disk'>
<driver name='qemu' type='raw' cache='writeback'/>
<source file='/mnt/user/domains/JEREMY-PC/vdisk2.img'/>
<backingStore/>
<target dev='hdd' bus='virtio'/>
<alias name='virtio-disk3'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x05' function='0x0'/>
</disk>
<controller type='usb' index='0' model='ich9-ehci1'>
<alias name='usb'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x07' function='0x7'/>
</controller>
<controller type='usb' index='0' model='ich9-uhci1'>
<alias name='usb'/>
<master startport='0'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x07' function='0x0' multifunction='on'/>
</controller>
<controller type='usb' index='0' model='ich9-uhci2'>
<alias name='usb'/>
<master startport='2'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x07' function='0x1'/>
</controller>
<controller type='usb' index='0' model='ich9-uhci3'>
<alias name='usb'/>
<master startport='4'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x07' function='0x2'/>
</controller>
<controller type='pci' index='0' model='pci-root'>
<alias name='pci.0'/>
</controller>
<controller type='virtio-serial' index='0'>
<alias name='virtio-serial0'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x03' function='0x0'/>
</controller>
<interface type='bridge'>
<mac address='52:54:00:9c:4f:95'/>
<source bridge='br0'/>
<target dev='vnet0'/>
<model type='virtio'/>
<alias name='net0'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x02' function='0x0'/>
</interface>
<serial type='pty'>
<source path='/dev/pts/0'/>
<target port='0'/>
<alias name='serial0'/>
</serial>
<console type='pty' tty='/dev/pts/0'>
<source path='/dev/pts/0'/>
<target type='serial' port='0'/>
<alias name='serial0'/>
</console>
<channel type='unix'>
<source mode='bind' path='/var/lib/libvirt/qemu/channel/target/domain-2-JEREMY-PC/org.qemu.guest_agent.0'/>
<target type='virtio' name='org.qemu.guest_agent.0' state='disconnected'/>
<alias name='channel0'/>
<address type='virtio-serial' controller='0' bus='0' port='1'/>
</channel>
<input type='mouse' bus='ps2'>
<alias name='input0'/>
</input>
<input type='keyboard' bus='ps2'>
<alias name='input1'/>
</input>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='pci' managed='yes'>
<driver name='vfio'/>
<source>
<address domain='0x0000' bus='0x01' slot='0x00' function='0x0'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev0'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x06' function='0x0'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='pci' managed='yes'>
<driver name='vfio'/>
<source>
<address domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x1b' function='0x0'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev1'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x08' function='0x0'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='usb' managed='no'>
<source>
<vendor id='0x045e'/>
<product id='0x02e6'/>
<address bus='3' device='9'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev2'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='2'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='usb' managed='no'>
<source>
<vendor id='0x046d'/>
<product id='0xc221'/>
<address bus='3' device='11'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev3'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='3'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='usb' managed='no'>
<source>
<vendor id='0x046d'/>
<product id='0xc225'/>
<address bus='3' device='12'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev4'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='4'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='usb' managed='no'>
<source>
<vendor id='0x0a12'/>
<product id='0x0001'/>
<address bus='3' device='5'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev5'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='5'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='usb' managed='no'>
<source>
<vendor id='0x0c70'/>
<product id='0xf00a'/>
<address bus='3' device='4'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev6'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='6'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='usb' managed='no'>
<source>
<vendor id='0x1b1c'/>
<product id='0x0c0a'/>
<address bus='3' device='6'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev7'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='1.1'/>
</hostdev>
<hostdev mode='subsystem' type='usb' managed='no'>
<source>
<vendor id='0x1e7d'/>
<product id='0x2d51'/>
<address bus='3' device='10'/>
</source>
<alias name='hostdev8'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='1.2'/>
</hostdev>
<hub type='usb'>
<alias name='hub0'/>
<address type='usb' bus='0' port='1'/>
</hub>
<memballoon model='virtio'>
<alias name='balloon0'/>
<address type='pci' domain='0x0000' bus='0x00' slot='0x09' function='0x0'/>
</memballoon>
</devices>
<seclabel type='none' model='none'/>
<seclabel type='dynamic' model='dac' relabel='yes'>
<label>+0:+100</label>
<imagelabel>+0:+100</imagelabel>
</seclabel>
</domain>

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