December 12, 20178 yr Trying to solve the wifi everywhere problem in a house with a huge stone chimney wall dividing the house. Locate WAP on the larger west side, works great on the west, but very bad on the east (kitchen). Add second WAP on the east, phones connected to west don't roam, still have poor connection. Cycle the wifi and connection is good until moving back to the west. Does Velop really solve this?
December 12, 20178 yr Dunno about velop, but a couple unifi ap's, one on either side of the chimney wall would clear it right up.
December 12, 20178 yr Author 1 hour ago, jonathanm said: Dunno about velop, but a couple unifi ap's, one on either side of the chimney wall would clear it right up. Which unifi APs? They don't really mention a wireless backhaul link on the website? The UAP PRO seems to be the only comparable, but it has no third radio for the backhaul.
December 12, 20178 yr 9 hours ago, c3 said: Add second WAP on the east, phones connected to west don't roam, still have poor connection. Cycle the wifi and connection is good until moving back to the west. no idea what velop is and cant be arsed to google it, but if youre trying to get your devices to auto switch between access points AND you're using android then i would recommend trying out this app, it's what i use and works pretty well, auo switching AP dependant on signal strength:- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seah0rse.swififree&hl=en
December 12, 20178 yr I haven't researched the technical implementation, so I guess I got lucky. All the UAP models I've implemented supported wireless uplink, and manage it all without manual intervention. I have noticed an unnamed signal that shows up when I do a site survey with UAP's in wireless mode, so I assume even if they don't dedicate a physical radio to it, they segregate out the backhaul traffic in software. All I know is, it works, works well, and doesn't require futzing around to keep it working. Obviously a better solution is to run a CatX wire to each AP, but wireless uplink works for me when I need it, and the wireless devices connected never hiccup, even when roaming from one zone to another.
December 12, 20178 yr Author 22 minutes ago, binhex said: no idea what velop is and cant be arsed to google it, but if youre trying to get your devices to auto switch between access points AND you're using android then i would recommend trying out this app, it's what i use and works pretty well, auo switching AP dependant on signal strength:- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.seah0rse.swififree&hl=en Unfortunately, the device list is huge and uncontrollable, but I'll certainly look into SWIFI for myself
December 12, 20178 yr Author 1 hour ago, jonathanm said: I haven't researched the technical implementation, so I guess I got lucky. All the UAP models I've implemented supported wireless uplink, and manage it all without manual intervention. I have noticed an unnamed signal that shows up when I do a site survey with UAP's in wireless mode, so I assume even if they don't dedicate a physical radio to it, they segregate out the backhaul traffic in software. All I know is, it works, works well, and doesn't require futzing around to keep it working. Obviously a better solution is to run a CatX wire to each AP, but wireless uplink works for me when I need it, and the wireless devices connected never hiccup, even when roaming from one zone to another. yes, it is possible to run the backhaul without a dedicated radio, and in this case the performance wont be hurt. Typically the dedicated radio is all about getting huge speed numbers. Orbi has a very nice dedicated backhaul with 1.7G bandwidth! But Orbi is not a mesh, and suffers the sticky client problem. Velop is a mesh and has a dedicated radio. My beginning research on Ubiquiti Networks' Amplifi shows they don't have dedicated backhaul radios. They use their AC1200 class radios for both backhaul and client device connection. But this will be acceptable if they can solve the problem. More detail to learn about Ubiquiti... Unifi seems to require internet to be functional due to some functions not be done local, this is an extra tax on the limited internet bandwidth available. Edited December 12, 20178 yr by c3
December 12, 20178 yr 4 hours ago, c3 said: Unifi seems to require internet to be functional due to some functions not be done local, this is an extra tax on the limited internet bandwidth available. Depends what functionality you need, basic Wifi is all local, you don't need the controller PC to even be present on the network for Wifi to work. One of the installations I manage is using 2 outdoor ap's as a bridge, and other than setting it up initially and occasional site visits to check on things it never has a unifi controller running, I just fire it up on my laptop when I'm onsite. I've never bothered setting up any of their cloud management stuff, I would rather manage things locally inside the network.
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