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Windows SMB problems

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I am very new to unRAID.

 

I have created new share for Media, and by default the Security was Public. No problem, just wanted to see if it worked. I accessed this via Windows with no issues.

 

Since then I have created a new User and wanted to restrict this share. The share is hidden from view in Windows, but I can access it with Read only access. I don't get a prompt to use my credentials for RW access. What am I doing wrong?

 

UR6.3.5 / Win 10

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17 minutes ago, docspectre said:

I can access it with Read only access. I don't get a prompt to use my credentials for RW access.

Windows will only use one set of credentials per server. It logged in fine with guest credentials, so it's not going to renegotiate since it's already logged in. You need to clear the current server credentials in windows, and restart. When you connect to the server, make SURE that the VERY FIRST connection is to a share that requires credentials. You may need to temporarily disable guest access to force windows to ask for credentials.

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3 hours ago, jonathanm said:

Windows will only use one set of credentials per server. It logged in fine with guest credentials, so it's not going to renegotiate since it's already logged in. You need to clear the current server credentials in windows, and restart. When you connect to the server, make SURE that the VERY FIRST connection is to a share that requires credentials. You may need to temporarily disable guest access to force windows to ask for credentials.

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried to remove credentials via Credentials Manager and CMDline, and after a reboot the problem persists. I wonder if I should reinstall unRaid and start again?

22 minutes ago, docspectre said:

I wonder if I should reinstall unRaid and start again?

That's not going to change anything. Try changing all shares to private instead of secure and clear credentials in windows again. You must force windows to prompt for credentials, or alternatively add credentials to unraid that match what windows is providing by default.

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1 hour ago, jonathanm said:

That's not going to change anything. Try changing all shares to private instead of secure and clear credentials in windows again. You must force windows to prompt for credentials, or alternatively add credentials to unraid that match what windows is providing by default.

 

Changing to private and clearing credentials has done the trick on one Windows machine - thanks. I will have to test a few more things tomorrow.

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5 hours ago, jonathanm said:

Windows will only use one set of credentials per server. It logged in fine with guest credentials, so it's not going to renegotiate since it's already logged in. You need to clear the current server credentials in windows, and restart. When you connect to the server, make SURE that the VERY FIRST connection is to a share that requires credentials. You may need to temporarily disable guest access to force windows to ask for credentials.

Currently getting this other error. I have used WHS 2011 in the past, where shares could be accessed by a number of different computers using the same user credentials. The other machine is currently off, so I am not logging in simultaneously.

 

 

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Add your unRaid server to HOSTS file on your client(s), even if accessing via IP.

SMB is a little broken on Win10.

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There are a lot of issues with SMB that can rise up and bite you.  Here are several that were discussed a few years back:

 

https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/25064-user-share-problem/?tab=comments#comment-228392

 

Be sure to read the next few posts as a couple of other ones follow.  (SMB is Kludge based on a simple networking scheme conceived for Windows for Workgroups 3.1 OS for connecting a small number of computers that would work without a dedicated server where the security was not a concern.  I suspect you could still connect one of those old computers to a modern SMB network and it would still work!  I remember building  a SMB network using 10base2 hardware to use in my original setup.  For security, we used NetBIOS for the network and TPC/IP for the dialup modems.) 

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