Joe L. Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I've got no idea if this will boot up unRAID, but it seems like an incredible deal. You might need to boot from a boot disk... or configure the flash drive to look like a removable drive, as I see NO mention of booting from USB in the manual. I found this: The SE7501BR2 server BIOS supports USB keyboard, mouse and boot devices in this document: http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7501br2/sb/se7501br2tps.pdf It might work for someone like me who has an older IDE MD1200 based array since the motherboard has two PCI connectors and 4 PCI-X connectors. I can probably plug my existing promise PCI controllers in the PCI-X slots and gain some speed (assuming the slot will then run them at 66MHz) At worst, I use the PCI slots and get the same performance as I now do. If nothing else, I get dual CPUs and 1Gig of RAM for the same cost as it would be to upgrade my existing memory from 512Meg to 1Gig. The built-in SCSI controller would be unused unless I compile a new kernel seems to be recognized by the unRAID kernel, but I don't see me using any of my old SCSI hardware on it. The link is here: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SE7501BR2-KIT-R&cat=BAP&cpc=APM Motherboard manual is here: http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7501br2/sb/se7501br2tps.pdf Intel Server grade motherboard, dual CPUs, and memory for under $60. I'm very tempted. Edit: This service bulletin mentions USB boot, so odds are it is supported: http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/se7501br2/sb/se7501br2_spec_update_200502_support.pdf Edit: but it might just be USB 1.1 (slower booting) Edit: unable to get the USB port to properly load unRAID, or even the load the memory test, even though the menu did load. It was very slow to load, probably 10 minutes or more Edit: I purchased an Compact-Flash-to-IDE adapter, plugged it into the disk controller, added and partitioned a 4Gig CF card, installed "grub" on its MBR, pointed it to the partition with the grub loader files, and I can boot as fast as ever. This motherboard works very well booting from the compact flash drive. I've actually now got it configured for a dual boot where I can optionally boot a full installation of ubuntu, or, if I do nothing the default is to boot unRAID. I've labeled the compact-flash drive as CFUNRAID and put the normal UNRAID labeled flash drive in a USB port on the back. unRAID finds it just fine. Joe L. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 That's a great deal. Especially if the 2.4 CPU's are LV. Chances of it booting from USB are good as it's a pretty modern motherboard. if not, there is an easy way to boot from one of the disks using grub or grub4dos. Quote Link to comment
PhilH Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I'm very tempted since I am running a couple of the Supermicro pci-x 8 port sata cards. Only thing is how much power is this monster going to use? Do I need to get a second mortgage for my house? lol.... Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I had a supermicro dual 3.2 GHZ processors with 2GB of ram. When the machine booted it was 300Watts. After it settled in with the halt instructions in the kernel it dropped down to about 150 watts (this was with 5 fans, 6 hard drives, 4 as 10,000RPM SCSI, KVM (powered from ps/2) dual monitor AGP video card. If you happen to score some LV 604 2.0 or 2.4 Ghz cpu's it will run even less and cooler. I have a Supermicro X5dal-tg2 with 2 2.4Ghz LV processors, 2 10,000RPM scsi drives. When idle it pulls around 100-120 watts. The LV processors are very cool. in fact the fan died and the CPU is still running under 40c. The regular 2.4's do not run all that hot and you really only need one CPU. But if someone wants to work with LV processors, I have a pair of 2.0ghz LV's I can sell or trade. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 The only clue about the power draw is this statement for the 5Volt standby power supply Minimum of 450-watt power supply (it must provide a minimum of 1.2A of 5Vsb current or the board will not boot) It was NOT designed for low power users... It was designed for high end servers in data centers. Quote Link to comment
DocBlock Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 This kind of stuff is why I shouldn't read the deals forum. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 The only clue about the power draw is this statement for the 5Volt standby power supply Minimum of 450-watt power supply (it must provide a minimum of 1.2A of 5Vsb current or the board will not boot) It was NOT designed for low power users... It was designed for high end servers in data centers. All DP XEON 604's say they need a minimum of 400w or so. (I have about 4). Most modern PSU's can support the 1.2A on 5Vsb. As I mention, the LV 604's use less power. 35W per proc. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 The motherboard arrived today. The dual CPUs and memory were already in the sockets. (2 512 Meg DDR PC2100 CL2.5 ECC strips) The heat-sinks were wrapped separately, as was the hardware, back-plate, and IDE and SCSI cables. Should be interesting since I am planning to swap it in place of the original Intel MB on my MD1200 server. 4 PCI-X slots I'll use 2 of them for the Promise IDE controllers. They should run at 66Mhz speed. I can put the Roswell 4-port SATA controller in another. 2 PCI slots will just stay empty for now. I'll keep my eye out for an SATA 8-port PCI-X controller on sale, for when I eventually replace the IDE drives. Not bad at all for $57. I'm going to have fun... Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 4, 2010 Author Share Posted June 4, 2010 All DP XEON 604's say they need a minimum of 400w or so. (I have about 4). Most modern PSU's can support the 1.2A on 5Vsb. Do I dare try a smaller supply for my initial tests? I cannot imagine the MB using anywhere near 400watts. Perhaps with a full compliment of disk drives, but not all by itself. Comments? Joe L. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 4, 2010 Share Posted June 4, 2010 All DP XEON 604's say they need a minimum of 400w or so. (I have about 4). Most modern PSU's can support the 1.2A on 5Vsb. Do I dare try a smaller supply for my initial tests? I cannot imagine the MB using anywhere near 400watts. Perhaps with a full compliment of disk drives, but not all by itself. Comments? Joe L. No, You will certainly have trouble with less then 400w. A modern power supply will have the 1.2A on 5VUSB, but 400w is correct for 2 XEONS. You can probably take one CPU off and possibly get away with it, but once the machine starts to do something heavy, you may have trouble. If you are willing to swap those CPU's out for LV CPU's I have a pair of 2.0 GHZ LV Xeons. It will use less electric and will create less heat. I've been running the LV variants for a long time. I have some Supermicro Dual XEON PCI-X boards I'm going to retire soon, so don't sweat it if you miss out on this deal. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 7, 2010 Author Share Posted June 7, 2010 The great news is that it boots from the USB port... (I had to use the newer syslinux on the flash drive to get it to boot) I even had 2Gig of ECC ram to add to the 1Gig it came with, so it boots with 3Gig of ECC RAM. The not-as-great news is that it is USB1.1 and boots very slowly. Vvvvvvvvveeeeeeerrrrrryyyyyy Slooooooooooooooooly. And once it looks like it is starting, it crashes with a kernel panic stating it cannot find init. I've got a feeling that the 1GB flash drive might be too large for the BIOS to boot from, pr, perhaps I need to try FAT vs. FAT32. I've hooked up a CD drive. I'm doing some initial tests booting from various "live" CDs. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 You can try one of your spare IDE drives. It will boot very fast, All you need is a small FAT filesystem for booting. once booted it will find the UNRAID filesystem on flash and mount that as /boot. Come to think of it, not finding init is something else. Once bzimage and bzroot are in ram, then the flash does not come into play until it tries to mount unRAID. I would suggest dropping ram to 1gb until you get it to boot up. I know I had issues once where I could not boot my dual xeon with more then 1GB without some bios tweaks and/or grub parameters. I think I had to specific the amount of ram with mem=xxxx in the boot option. I think I had to give it ram size minus some ram for work space. I cannot remember all the details. Just some thoughts. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 You can try one of your spare IDE drives. It will boot very fast, All you need is a small FAT filesystem for booting. once booted it will find the UNRAID filesystem on flash and mount that as /boot. I was able to boot a live version of ubuntu 10.04 from a CD drive I temporarily attached. The system monitor shows 4 CPUs, (the 2 are hyper-threaded, so they show as 4). It also shows all 3GB of RAM. I ordered a compact-flash-to-IDE adapter and a pair of 4GB compact flash cards from newegg. Should be here in about 4 or 5 days. I'll use it to boot from. Even if I could get the unRAID flash drive to boot properly by changing the partitioning of the flash drive, I don't think I could take the extended (15 minute+) boot time of a USB 1.0 port for very long. In the interim, I'll try an old small (40Gig) IDE drive with a small FAT partition to boot from. (I'll see if I can get to that tonight) The CPUs run very cool. Using a IR thermometer, they are about 28.4 degrees C. only 4 degrees higher than ambient of 24.4 degrees C. Actually, the whole motherboard seems to run cool, but then, it is sitting on the table right now and not in an enclosed case. On the other hand, the only fans on it are the ones on the two CPU heatsinks. Joe L. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 The CPUs run very cool. Using a IR thermometer, they are about 28.4 degrees C. only 4 degrees higher than ambient of 24.4 degrees C. Actually, the whole motherboard seems to run cool, but then, it is sitting on the table right now and not in an enclosed case. On the other hand, the only fans on it are the ones on the two CPU heatsinks. They are rated at 65-77w TDP depending on model. The LV variants are rated at 40W TDP. You'll feel a fair amount of heat come out of your case if you do anything that taxes the CPU's. It's still a great deal. Also, if you have a floppy drive, you can boot grub4dos, which can then be used to read bzimage/bzroot from one of your reiserfs disks. You can also install grub4dos directly to one of the disks in the MBR. You can also boot grub4dos from the syslinux menu, which can then boot bzimage/bzroot from reiserfs. This is my menu.lst on the syslinux boot root # Grub4DOS configuration for unRAID title find unraid on flash find /bzimage /bzroot /syslinux.cfg pause Press Any Key when Ready title find unraid on data disk find /boot/bzimage /boot/bzroot pause Press Any Key when Ready title find unraid on cache (hidden in /.boot) find /.boot/bzimage /.boot/bzroot pause Press Any Key when Ready title find and boot unraid on flash find --set-root /bzimage /bzroot /syslinux.cfg savedefault --wait=2 kernel /bzimage initrd /bzroot boot title find and boot unraid installed on harddrive find --set-root /boot/bzimage /boot/bzroot savedefault --wait=2 kernel /boot/bzimage initrd /boot/bzroot boot title find and boot unraid installed on cache find --set-root /.boot/bzimage /.boot/bzroot savedefault --wait=2 kernel /.boot/bzimage initrd /.boot/bzroot boot title back to dos # savedefault --wait=2 quit title commandline # savedefault --wait=2 commandline title reboot # savedefault --wait=2 reboot title halt # savedefault --wait=2 halt And layout on the boot usb. root@Atlas /boot #ls -l menu.lst images/grub.exe -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 211821 Sep 28 2008 images/grub.exe* -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 989 Sep 28 2008 menu.lst* adding this section to syslinux.cfg label Grub4DOS Kernel kernel images/grub.exe http://gna.org/projects/grub4dos/ http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Grub4dos_tutorial The expectation for each section is. flash will have /bzimage /bzroot each hard drive could have /boot/bzimage /boot/bzroot cache drive would have ./boot/bzimage ./boot/bzroot With the find --set-root /.boot/bzimage /.boot/bzroot it will search each disk and set the root drive to whichever disk satisfies the condition. I just so happen to rsync /boot to each of my disks into /mnt/disk?/boot once a day. so I have an emergency boot area. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 Wow... thanks... a lot of good ideas to try. I did try booting my very old unRAID version 2 flash drive. It used grub, but the default location was different. after booting with changed parameters, the unRAID software was pre-UNRAID-label so it could not find the OS partition. It was worth a try though, as are many of your suggestions. Yes, I have a floppy around somewhere downstairs... in fact, I have even have several 8" floppy disk drives... now wouldn't that be a kick... I just don't have a disk controller on the MB for them. In the same way, I've got about 4 or 5 small 500meg SCSI drives. One of them would also work if I got an adapter to go from 68-Pin to 50-Pin SCSI. I just figured the Compact-Flash would be the lowest power consumption. Thanks for the ideas... I think this will work really well to replace the original Intel MB on my MD1200 server. Compatible with all the existing disk controller cards, but able to run them all at 66MHz, and also PCI-X capable for an 8-port SATA card in the future. I'll finally be able to compile a large package without running out of RAM. Joe L. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 if you boot from ubuntu or something, then copy bzimage/bzroot to the first disk that shows up in bios, you can use the grub.exe to access those files and boot rapidly from the array drive. I had a compact flash and adapter. It's questionable sometimes just how fast it can be. Sometimes it is light lightening, and with other CF cards it can be slow. Depends on the adapter and CF card if it is DMA capable. Still. it will be faster then USB 1. (and the CF card becomes a full backup). Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 I received the compact-flash to IDE adapter and the 4Gig compact-flash drive in yesterday's mail. I partitioned the 4 Gig with a small FAT16 partition to hold "grub" and its files, and two 2Gig FAT16 partitions for general use. I put the bzroot, bzimage, and /boot/grub/ files on the first of the 2Gig partitions. I installed "grub" to the MBR of the compact-flash. Selecting the compact-flash as the boot disk it very quickly boots unRAID. One tiny snag, the 100Mbit LAN port shows up as eth0. Disabling it made the 1000Mbit LAN connection get the eth0 device. I have my second "Pro" key plugged into a USB port. I'm using a USB mouse and keyboard. I still have the hard disk I originally loaded with ubuntu attached and my grub menu can boot it if I desire instead of unRAID. I installed unMENU and using its package-manager, the dmidecode package. Output is here: # dmidecode 2.9 SMBIOS 2.3 present. 75 structures occupying 2772 bytes. Table at 0x000F1260. Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 20 bytes BIOS Information Vendor: Intel Corporation Version: SBR20.86B.0082.P23.0504071730 Release Date: 04/07/2005 Address: 0xF0000 Runtime Size: 64 kB ROM Size: 1024 kB Characteristics: PCI is supported PNP is supported BIOS is upgradeable BIOS shadowing is allowed ESCD support is available Boot from CD is supported Selectable boot is supported EDD is supported Japanese floppy for NEC 9800 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h) Japanese floppy for Toshiba 1.2 MB is supported (int 13h) 5.25"/360 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 3.5"/720 KB floppy services are supported (int 13h) 3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h) Print screen service is supported (int 5h) 8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h) Serial services are supported (int 14h) Printer services are supported (int 17h) CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h) ACPI is supported USB legacy is supported LS-120 boot is supported ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported BIOS boot specification is supported Function key-initiated network boot is supported Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 25 bytes System Information Manufacturer: Intel Product Name: Version: Serial Number: UUID: 7C4A9AA5-6071-DA11-0080-47A333E90700 Wake-up Type: Power Switch Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 8 bytes Base Board Information Manufacturer: Intel Product Name: SE7501BR2S Version: A95686-507 Serial Number: CWB555000418 Handle 0x0003, DMI type 3, 17 bytes Chassis Information Manufacturer: Intel Corporation Type: Rack Mount Chassis Lock: Not Present Version: Serial Number: Asset Tag: Boot-up State: Unknown Power Supply State: Unknown Thermal State: Unknown Security Status: Unknown OEM Information: 0x00000000 Handle 0x0004, DMI type 4, 35 bytes Processor Information Socket Designation: CPU 1 Type: Central Processor Family: Xeon Manufacturer: Intel Corporation ID: 29 0F 00 00 FF FB EB BF Signature: Type 0, Family 15, Model 2, Stepping 9 Flags: FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip) VME (Virtual mode extension) DE (Debugging extension) PSE (Page size extension) TSC (Time stamp counter) MSR (Model specific registers) PAE (Physical address extension) MCE (Machine check exception) CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported) APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported) SEP (Fast system call) MTRR (Memory type range registers) PGE (Page global enable) MCA (Machine check architecture) CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported) PAT (Page attribute table) PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension) CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported) DS (Debug store) ACPI (ACPI supported) MMX (MMX technology supported) FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore) SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions) SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2) SS (Self-snoop) HTT (Hyper-threading technology) TM (Thermal monitor supported) PBE (Pending break enabled) Version: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz Voltage: 1.5 V External Clock: 133 MHz Max Speed: 2400 MHz Current Speed: 2400 MHz Status: Populated, Enabled Upgrade: ZIF Socket L1 Cache Handle: 0x0005 L2 Cache Handle: 0x0006 L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided Serial Number: Asset Tag: Part Number: Handle 0x0005, DMI type 7, 19 bytes Cache Information Socket Designation: L1-Cache Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 8 KB Maximum Size: 8 KB Supported SRAM Types: Synchronous Installed SRAM Type: Synchronous Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Parity System Type: Unified Associativity: 4-way Set-associative Handle 0x0006, DMI type 7, 19 bytes Cache Information Socket Designation: L2-cache Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 512 KB Maximum Size: 512 KB Supported SRAM Types: Synchronous Installed SRAM Type: Synchronous Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC System Type: Data Associativity: Fully Associative Handle 0x0007, DMI type 7, 19 bytes Cache Information Socket Designation: L3-cache Configuration: Disabled, Not Socketed, Level 3 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 0 KB Maximum Size: 0 KB Supported SRAM Types: Unknown Installed SRAM Type: Unknown Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Unknown System Type: Unknown Associativity: Unknown Handle 0x0008, DMI type 4, 35 bytes Processor Information Socket Designation: CPU 2 Type: Central Processor Family: Xeon Manufacturer: Intel Corporation ID: 29 0F 00 00 FF FB EB BF Signature: Type 0, Family 15, Model 2, Stepping 9 Flags: FPU (Floating-point unit on-chip) VME (Virtual mode extension) DE (Debugging extension) PSE (Page size extension) TSC (Time stamp counter) MSR (Model specific registers) PAE (Physical address extension) MCE (Machine check exception) CX8 (CMPXCHG8 instruction supported) APIC (On-chip APIC hardware supported) SEP (Fast system call) MTRR (Memory type range registers) PGE (Page global enable) MCA (Machine check architecture) CMOV (Conditional move instruction supported) PAT (Page attribute table) PSE-36 (36-bit page size extension) CLFSH (CLFLUSH instruction supported) DS (Debug store) ACPI (ACPI supported) MMX (MMX technology supported) FXSR (Fast floating-point save and restore) SSE (Streaming SIMD extensions) SSE2 (Streaming SIMD extensions 2) SS (Self-snoop) HTT (Hyper-threading technology) TM (Thermal monitor supported) PBE (Pending break enabled) Version: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz Voltage: 1.5 V External Clock: 133 MHz Max Speed: 2400 MHz Current Speed: 2400 MHz Status: Populated, Enabled Upgrade: ZIF Socket L1 Cache Handle: 0x0009 L2 Cache Handle: 0x000A L3 Cache Handle: Not Provided Serial Number: Asset Tag: Part Number: Handle 0x0009, DMI type 7, 19 bytes Cache Information Socket Designation: L1-Cache Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 1 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 8 KB Maximum Size: 8 KB Supported SRAM Types: Synchronous Installed SRAM Type: Synchronous Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Parity System Type: Unified Associativity: 4-way Set-associative Handle 0x000A, DMI type 7, 19 bytes Cache Information Socket Designation: L2-cache Configuration: Enabled, Not Socketed, Level 2 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 512 KB Maximum Size: 512 KB Supported SRAM Types: Synchronous Installed SRAM Type: Synchronous Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC System Type: Data Associativity: Fully Associative Handle 0x000B, DMI type 7, 19 bytes Cache Information Socket Designation: L3-cache Configuration: Disabled, Not Socketed, Level 3 Operational Mode: Varies With Memory Address Location: Internal Installed Size: 0 KB Maximum Size: 0 KB Supported SRAM Types: Unknown Installed SRAM Type: Unknown Speed: Unknown Error Correction Type: Unknown System Type: Unknown Associativity: Unknown Handle 0x000C, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J9A6 Internal Connector Type: None External Reference Designator: USB1-3 External Connector Type: Access Bus (USB) Port Type: USB Handle 0x000D, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J8A18 Internal Connector Type: None External Reference Designator: Serial Port 1 External Connector Type: DB-9 male Port Type: Serial Port 16550A Compatible Handle 0x000E, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J7A28 Internal Connector Type: None External Reference Designator: LPT1 External Connector Type: DB-25 female Port Type: Parallel Port ECP/EPP Handle 0x000F, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J9A5 Internal Connector Type: None External Reference Designator: KBD/MS External Connector Type: PS/2 Port Type: Keyboard Port Handle 0x0010, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J7A6 Internal Connector Type: None External Reference Designator: VIDEO External Connector Type: DB-15 female Port Type: Video Port Handle 0x0011, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J5A16 Internal Connector Type: None External Reference Designator: NIC1 External Connector Type: RJ-45 Port Type: Network Port Handle 0x0012, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J6A16 Internal Connector Type: None External Reference Designator: NIC2 External Connector Type: RJ-45 Port Type: Network Port Handle 0x0013, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1F1 - LVD SCSI Internal Connector Type: SSA SCSI External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0014, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4J7 - FDD Internal Connector Type: On Board Floppy External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0015, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J2J5 - PRIMARY IDE Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0016, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1J24 - SECONDARY IDE Internal Connector Type: On Board IDE External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0017, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J5F1 - CPU2 FAN Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0018, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J7F21 - CPU1 FAN Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0019, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1H1 - SYSTEM JUMPERS 1 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x001A, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4K1 - IPMB Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x001B, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4J5 - HSBP B Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x001C, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4K2 - HSBP A Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x001D, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1B11 - Serial Port 2 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x001E, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1J2 - FRONT PANEL Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x001F, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J7B11 - SYS FAN1 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0020, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J7B12 - SYS FAN2 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0021, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1K14 - SYS FAN3 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0022, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J2K5 - SYS FAN4 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0023, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4K6 - SYS FAN5 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0024, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4K11 - SYS FAN6 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0025, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J9B13 - MAIN PWR Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0026, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1C4 - HDD LED Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0027, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J1C3 - CHASS INT Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0028, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J9B27 - AUX SIG Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x0029, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4K10 - CPU 12V Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x002A, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J4J3 - USB4 Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Handle 0x002B, DMI type 8, 9 bytes Port Connector Information Internal Reference Designator: J2A7 - ICMB Internal Connector Type: Other External Reference Designator: Not Specified External Connector Type: None Port Type: Other Continued in next post... 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Joe L. Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 dmidecode output continued: Handle 0x002C, DMI type 9, 13 bytes System Slot Information Designation: SLOT1 (PCI-X 64/100) Type: 64-bit PCI-X Current Usage: Available Length: Long ID: 1 Characteristics: 3.3 V is provided Opening is shared PME signal is supported Handle 0x002D, DMI type 9, 13 bytes System Slot Information Designation: SLOT2 (PCI-X 64/100) Type: 64-bit PCI-X Current Usage: Available Length: Long ID: 2 Characteristics: 3.3 V is provided Opening is shared PME signal is supported Handle 0x002E, DMI type 9, 13 bytes System Slot Information Designation: SLOT3 (PCI-X 64/100) Type: 64-bit PCI-X Current Usage: Available Length: Long ID: 3 Characteristics: 3.3 V is provided Opening is shared PME signal is supported Handle 0x002F, DMI type 9, 13 bytes System Slot Information Designation: SLOT4 (PCI-X 64/100) Type: 64-bit PCI-X Current Usage: Available Length: Long ID: 4 Characteristics: 3.3 V is provided Opening is shared PME signal is supported Handle 0x0030, DMI type 9, 13 bytes System Slot Information Designation: SLOT5 (PCI 32/33) Type: 32-bit PCI Current Usage: In Use Length: Short ID: 5 Characteristics: 3.3 V is provided Opening is shared PME signal is supported Handle 0x0031, DMI type 9, 13 bytes System Slot Information Designation: SLOT6 (PCI 32/33) Type: 32-bit PCI Current Usage: Available Length: Short ID: 6 Characteristics: 3.3 V is provided Opening is shared PME signal is supported Handle 0x0032, DMI type 10, 6 bytes On Board Device Information Type: Video Status: Enabled Description: ATI Rage XL::GR 4.332 Handle 0x0033, DMI type 10, 6 bytes On Board Device Information Type: SCSI Controller Status: Enabled Description: Adaptec AIC-7901::4.30S2 Handle 0x0034, DMI type 10, 6 bytes On Board Device Information Type: Ethernet Status: Enabled Description: Intel 82550PM::4.1.16 Handle 0x0035, DMI type 10, 6 bytes On Board Device Information Type: Ethernet Status: Disabled Description: Intel 82540EM::1.2.26 Handle 0x0036, DMI type 11, 5 bytes OEM Strings String 1: HWID=02C9 String 2: _ String 3: _ String 4: _ Handle 0x0037, DMI type 12, 5 bytes System Configuration Options Option 1: POWER:power switch Option 2: RESET:reset switch Option 3: NMI:nmi switch Option 4: ID:id switch Option 5: J1H1:1-2 Normal Boot, 2-3 Clear CMOS Option 6: J1H1:5-6 Normal Boot, 6-7 Clear CMOS Password Option 7: J1H1:9-10 Normal Boot, 10-11 BIOS Recovery Handle 0x0038, DMI type 13, 22 bytes BIOS Language Information Installable Languages: 5 en|US|iso8859-1 es|ES|iso8859-1 de|DE|iso8859-1 it|IT|iso8859-1 fr|FR|iso8859-1 Currently Installed Language: en|US|iso8859-1 Handle 0x0039, DMI type 16, 15 bytes Physical Memory Array Location: System Board Or Motherboard Use: System Memory Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC Maximum Capacity: 8 GB Error Information Handle: No Error Number Of Devices: 4 Handle 0x003A, DMI type 17, 27 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0039 Error Information Handle: No Error Total Width: 72 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 512 MB Form Factor: DIMM Set: 1 Locator: DIMM1A Bank Locator: BANK1 Type: DDR Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 266 MHz (3.8 ns) Manufacturer: Serial Number: Asset Tag: Part Number: Handle 0x003B, DMI type 17, 27 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0039 Error Information Handle: No Error Total Width: 72 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 512 MB Form Factor: DIMM Set: 1 Locator: DIMM1B Bank Locator: BANK1 Type: DDR Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 266 MHz (3.8 ns) Manufacturer: Serial Number: Asset Tag: Part Number: Handle 0x003C, DMI type 17, 27 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0039 Error Information Handle: No Error Total Width: 72 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 1024 MB Form Factor: DIMM Set: 2 Locator: DIMM2A Bank Locator: BANK2 Type: DDR Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 266 MHz (3.8 ns) Manufacturer: Serial Number: Asset Tag: Part Number: Handle 0x003D, DMI type 17, 27 bytes Memory Device Array Handle: 0x0039 Error Information Handle: No Error Total Width: 72 bits Data Width: 64 bits Size: 1024 MB Form Factor: DIMM Set: 2 Locator: DIMM2B Bank Locator: BANK2 Type: DDR Type Detail: Synchronous Speed: 266 MHz (3.8 ns) Manufacturer: Serial Number: Asset Tag: Part Number: Handle 0x003E, DMI type 126, 23 bytes Inactive Handle 0x003F, DMI type 126, 23 bytes Inactive Handle 0x0040, DMI type 126, 23 bytes Inactive Handle 0x0041, DMI type 126, 23 bytes Inactive Handle 0x0042, DMI type 19, 15 bytes Memory Array Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x00000000000 Ending Address: 0x000BFFFFFFF Range Size: 3 GB Physical Array Handle: 0x0039 Partition Width: 0 Handle 0x0043, DMI type 20, 19 bytes Memory Device Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x00080000000 Ending Address: 0x0009FFFFFFF Range Size: 512 MB Physical Device Handle: 0x003A Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0042 Partition Row Position: 1 Interleave Position: 1 Interleaved Data Depth: 2 Handle 0x0044, DMI type 20, 19 bytes Memory Device Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x000A0000000 Ending Address: 0x000BFFFFFFF Range Size: 512 MB Physical Device Handle: 0x003B Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0042 Partition Row Position: 2 Interleave Position: 2 Interleaved Data Depth: 2 Handle 0x0045, DMI type 20, 19 bytes Memory Device Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x00000000000 Ending Address: 0x0003FFFFFFF Range Size: 1 GB Physical Device Handle: 0x003C Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0042 Partition Row Position: 1 Interleave Position: 1 Interleaved Data Depth: 2 Handle 0x0046, DMI type 20, 19 bytes Memory Device Mapped Address Starting Address: 0x00040000000 Ending Address: 0x0007FFFFFFF Range Size: 1 GB Physical Device Handle: 0x003D Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0042 Partition Row Position: 2 Interleave Position: 2 Interleaved Data Depth: 2 Handle 0x0047, DMI type 24, 5 bytes Hardware Security Power-On Password Status: Disabled Keyboard Password Status: Disabled Administrator Password Status: Disabled Front Panel Reset Status: Not Implemented Handle 0x0048, DMI type 32, 20 bytes System Boot Information Status: No errors detected Handle 0x0049, DMI type 38, 18 bytes IPMI Device Information Interface Type: KCS (Keyboard Control Style) Specification Version: 1.5 I2C Slave Address: 0x10 NV Storage Device: Not Present Base Address: 0x0000000000000CA2 (I/O) Register Spacing: Successive Byte Boundaries Interrupt Polarity: Active High Interrupt Trigger Mode: Edge Handle 0x004A, DMI type 127, 4 bytes End Of Table Basically, it looks like it will work very nicely to replace the original PCI based Intel MB. I have no disks assigned to the array at this time, so I can't report on parity check speed improvements just yet. I think I did very nicely for $57. Joe L. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I think I did very nicely for $57. Joe L. Without a doubt! Quote Link to comment
Kaygee Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 The following look good value for money if your prepared to run with just basic functionality. Ebay #230480940535 Being an LSI based card it should work OK, but won't be pretty. At $34 for a 8 port card you can't complain. I have asked about UK shipping, at that price be rude not to. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 The following look good value for money if your prepared to run with just basic functionality. Ebay #230480940535 Being an LSI based card it should work OK, but won't be pretty. At $34 for a 8 port card you can't complain. I have asked about UK shipping, at that price be rude not to. That link was for a SCSI controller? was that the e-bay item you intended for me to see? My Intel MB has a built-in SCSI controller. Odds are I'll not use it, but I guess it is possible. It is recognized by Linux, but I doubt if unRAID will accept a drive on it. Quote Link to comment
Kaygee Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 The guy has it listed miss-leadingly it is a sas card, not a scsi card (serial attached scsi). SAS cards will drive sata drives no problem. I assume that is why they are $34 and $84... LSI 1068 based PCI-X card. Each of those two channels will drive 4 SAS or SATA drives. Cables are on ebay for a few bucks each. Breakout cable to four normal sata cables. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 The guy has it listed miss-leadingly it is a sas card, not a scsi card (serial attached scsi). SAS cards will drive sata drives no problem. I assume that is why they are $34 and $84... LSI 1068 based PCI-X card. Each of those two channels will drive 4 SAS or SATA drives. Cables are on ebay for a few bucks each. Breakout cable to four normal sata cables. I found the same card here: http://micropartsusa.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=48535 for a few dollars less. and here: http://www.trademoon.com/Product373072.aspx Can you give an example link of an appropriate breakout cable? Most of what I'm seeing seem to be mini-sas to SATA... This does not look like "mini-sas" Joe L. Quote Link to comment
WeeboTech Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Are you sure the card/chipset is supported. I saw questions about it a while back on the board, I did not see confirmation that it was working. Quote Link to comment
Kaygee Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I can happily format drives, write data, confirm data (md5), read data. What doesn't work is a lot of unMenu stuff (disk management). I thought they were a very good price, given you can pick them up elsewhere at a similar price perhaps they aren't that cheap. The cables are an SFF-8484 to 7 pin sata cable (see ebay 270502571488), can be called mini 32 pin sas connector. Here are the supported and loaded drivers. 02:08.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1068 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS (rev 01) Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 72, IRQ 16 I/O ports at 9c00 [disabled] Memory at fdffc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) Memory at fdfe0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) Expansion ROM at fde00000 [disabled] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [98] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [68] PCI-X non-bridge device Capabilities: [b0] MSI-X: Enable- Mask- TabSize=1 Kernel driver in use: mptsas Kernel modules: mptsas mptsas 29204 0 mptscsih 13419 1 mptsas mptbase 47439 2 mptsas,mptscsih Quote Link to comment
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